David Haye's new trainer is....

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David Haye's new trainer is....

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By accounts going to be Cuban coach Ismael Salas. Any thoughts from those who give a toss lol?
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He doesn't need a boxing coach.

He needs Dr Frankenstein
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Anyone who can gain enough respect from him to make him train hard.

Hopefully this is a sign that the Bellew rematch is going to be made. I do think it's by a way the biggest pay day for Bellew.
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jameswilson wrote:Anyone who can gain enough respect from him to make him train hard.

Hopefully this is a sign that the Bellew rematch is going to be made. I do think it's by a way the biggest pay day for Bellew.
I think you're right. I just can't watch Bellew talk through the build up about how he took Haye's POWAH and still did him fair and square. :witzend:
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jameswilson wrote:Anyone who can gain enough respect from him to make him train hard.

Hopefully this is a sign that the Bellew rematch is going to be made. I do think it's by a way the biggest pay day for Bellew.
It's the only fight for both men. Bellew won't fight a proper heavyweight and Haye needs to avenge an embarrassing loss. It is also the biggest earner for both men.
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jameswilson wrote:Anyone who can gain enough respect from him to make him train hard.

Hopefully this is a sign that the Bellew rematch is going to be made. I do think it's by a way the biggest pay day for Bellew.
I don't think it's about respect, I don't think Haye is able to train hard anymore
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Haye is quite probably no longer even a ghost of a heavyweight contender.

But in true Keegan style I'd love it if he poleaxed Bellew in one next time out.
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Does anyone know much about Ismael Salas? I can't say I do, googling him he trained some decent fighters like Gamboa, Danny Green and Rigondeaux and seems to be highly rated. Anyone know more about him?
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Doesn't matter who trains Haye at this stage in his career. They're not going to change him as a fighter. He's damaged goods and is probably just trying to get himself in to a decent enough condition for one last pay day.

I personally couldn't give two fukks about him anymore. He should retire.
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I hope bellew knocks him out and gets him off the boxing scene for good,this guy is a bad role model for young girls and lads wanting to look upto someone,i used to like him but he is a proper diva and needs ro hang his gloves up
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Stuarty30 wrote:Doesn't matter who trains Haye at this stage in his career. They're not going to change him as a fighter. He's damaged goods and is probably just trying to get himself in to a decent enough condition for one last pay day.

I personally couldn't give two fukks about him anymore. He should retire.
Totally agree.
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Don't really care too much about Haye's career now (admittedly will probably be drawn into the Bellew rematch hype), but a word on his work over the past year with Shane McGuigan - Shane is young enough and has already had plenty of success with Frampton and Groves that his work with Haye shouldn't affect his reputation too much. Saying that, seeing him and Haye training on yachts in Miami while dismissing the threat of Bellew shows a level of arrogance and complacency that no trainer should have. Either that or he was simply a 'yes man' and happy to take his cut of Haye's massive purse. Neither is a good look in all honesty. At this stage in his career I can't see Haye employing someone who will genuinely challenge him.
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Haye should just retire.
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ElJefe wrote:Don't really care too much about Haye's career now (admittedly will probably be drawn into the Bellew rematch hype), but a word on his work over the past year with Shane McGuigan - Shane is young enough and has already had plenty of success with Frampton and Groves that his work with Haye shouldn't affect his reputation too much. Saying that, seeing him and Haye training on yachts in Miami while dismissing the threat of Bellew shows a level of arrogance and complacency that no trainer should have. Either that or he was simply a 'yes man' and happy to take his cut of Haye's massive purse. Neither is a good look in all honesty. At this stage in his career I can't see Haye employing someone who will genuinely challenge him.
Wouldn't surprise me.
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needs a nurse dont he
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ElJefe wrote:Don't really care too much about Haye's career now (admittedly will probably be drawn into the Bellew rematch hype), but a word on his work over the past year with Shane McGuigan - Shane is young enough and has already had plenty of success with Frampton and Groves that his work with Haye shouldn't affect his reputation too much. Saying that, seeing him and Haye training on yachts in Miami while dismissing the threat of Bellew shows a level of arrogance and complacency that no trainer should have. Either that or he was simply a 'yes man' and happy to take his cut of Haye's massive purse. Neither is a good look in all honesty. At this stage in his career I can't see Haye employing someone who will genuinely challenge him.
Agree with the latter there. A big cut from Haye keeps them cash rich for a while. I don't think Shane's heart was in it like Frampton and Groves.
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CaptainSpacerod wrote:
jameswilson wrote:Anyone who can gain enough respect from him to make him train hard.

Hopefully this is a sign that the Bellew rematch is going to be made. I do think it's by a way the biggest pay day for Bellew.
I don't think it's about respect, I don't think Haye is able to train hard anymore
If anything, he's spent his career over training.
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George Groves

"It didn't really me surprise me," Groves exclusively told Sky Sports. "There was always that something different with David. He's always had his own team coming in - who he's known for years and worked with - before, so he was always slightly detached. "The way him and Shane were preparing for fights was like the American style: you see a lot of Americans doing their own thing because the country is so big, then for the final few weeks they'd do camp with a particular trainer. "It usually happens in the twilight of someone's career and I can see it working for David because he knows the game and knows what he's got to do. Shane is a good trainer, he's an intelligent chap and he knew what to do to get the best out of him."

That sounds like McGuigan had little control over Haye and Haye done his own thing.
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Controversial wrote:George Groves

"It didn't really me surprise me," Groves exclusively told Sky Sports. "There was always that something different with David. He's always had his own team coming in - who he's known for years and worked with - before, so he was always slightly detached. "The way him and Shane were preparing for fights was like the American style: you see a lot of Americans doing their own thing because the country is so big, then for the final few weeks they'd do camp with a particular trainer. "It usually happens in the twilight of someone's career and I can see it working for David because he knows the game and knows what he's got to do. Shane is a good trainer, he's an intelligent chap and he knew what to do to get the best out of him."

That sounds like McGuigan had little control over Haye and Haye done his own thing.
Well, that is pretty much what Groves said. :lol:
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SaadOffTheDeck wrote: If anything, he's spent his career over training.
He never did the roadwork though did he. I wonder if that's indicative of longstanding problems with his achilles.
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CaptainSpacerod wrote:
SaadOffTheDeck wrote: If anything, he's spent his career over training.
He never did the roadwork though did he. I wonder if that's indicative of longstanding problems with his achilles.
I'm not a doctor but I'd think roadwork is harder on your Achilles. Though most of the athletes you see with Achilles injuries tend to be of the fluke variety. Might not make a difference either way. It's just a tendon, you're not going to build it up. Tendons suffer from PED use for that very reason. The muscles heal and grow faster and just creates more of a burden.
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