How many champions did Sugar Ray Robinson beat?

ClivePatrickLyons
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Re: How many champions did Sugar Ray Robinson beat?

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Kalan wrote:
APerno wrote: I never saw the Armstrong fight - I realize he was at the end of his career but I am surprised that he would have been booed - Turpin belongs in the list because he was champ but that was only because be beat SRR - I find it hard to give SRR credit for 'beating a champion' - find it hard to call Turpin a champion in that sense
The same thing with Carmen Basilio. He never became Middleweight Champion except by also scoring a major upset over Robinson.

Fullmer beat Robinson and a washed out, undersized Basilio for his Middleweight Titles. Fullmer couldn't beat an older Dick Tiger in 3 fights with him.. Tiger overpowered Fullmer with a brutal crowding style similar to Ralph Jones. Robinson was never interested in fighting Tiger. Considering all the 2nd raters Robinson was matched with in non-title fights, it's interesting that he never fought mid 50's versions of Joey Giardello or Joey Giambra.

Gustav Scholz was able to secure only one fight in the United States -- against Al Andrews, who he beat easily, in 1954. He was persona no grata after that. The German was a clever Middleweight who lost only 2 of 96 fights and was never close to being stopped.
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Kalan
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Re: How many champions did Sugar Ray Robinson beat?

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That's you and your relatives licking the south end of a 50's Middleweight.
ClivePatrickLyons
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Re: How many champions did Sugar Ray Robinson beat?

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Kalan wrote:That's you and your relatives licking the south end of a 50's Middleweight.

You dog whats my relatives got to do with you bending over for the boys mutt
BoxBuzz
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Re: How many champions did Sugar Ray Robinson beat?

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Dogs, I suggest you settle this misunderstanding over a biscuit.
Kalan
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Re: How many champions did Sugar Ray Robinson beat?

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Just another fanboy like you, who has no argument, and doesn't like being confused with facts.

Such as the fact Robinson ducked some of the top boxers of his day and got his rear end kicked quite a few times by guys who couldn't box or punch exceedingly well -- and he was completely dominated by Ralph Jones who was coming off of 5 straight losses... Jones was such a big underdog that Robbie figured he had him beat before the bell rang... If you want to see real athletes Golden State has a couple.
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