Joshua MUST Fight in America

Stuarty
Middleweight
Posts: 27293
Joined: 20 Aug 2014, 10:28

Re: Joshua MUST Fight in America

Post by Stuarty »

Taansend wrote:
Stuarty30 wrote:
therealhustle wrote:He might have a bit of trouble getting a visa, due to his drug conviction.
He was over there recently promoting the Wlad fight wasn't he? Should be ok I'd imagine. There's ways round these things.

I've always fancied Vegas one day but I have a criminal record. There's a guy I know through work that's a proper crook and he goes to Florida every second year and hasn't had any issues. I think it's just your luck. Also heard a story about a guy being turned away at the airport for something daft. Lost thousands of pounds on his holiday. No choice but to just go home out of pocket. Fukk that!
I had some mates visit me last year and two have them have plenty of arrests and convictions for assault etc. They had no problems.
Ive got an assault to severe injury, two common assaults and three possession of Ching. Some driving offences from four years ago. The rest were ten or so years back.
asdfjkl
Heavyweight
Heavyweight

Re: Joshua MUST Fight in America

Post by asdfjkl »

Stuarty30 wrote:
Taansend wrote:
asdfjkl wrote: I know that Briggs is no way near as good as AJ, but let's face it, he's close near a belt, is the only American out there with a pulse, so the only one out there who got a chance on this scenario.
Jarrell Miller would beat the granny out of Briggs :bag:
As would Ruiz, Wilder, Arreola, Molina, Mansour, Breazeale etc...
Arreola? Are you drunk?
Stuarty
Middleweight
Posts: 27293
Joined: 20 Aug 2014, 10:28

Re: Joshua MUST Fight in America

Post by Stuarty »

asdfjkl wrote:
Stuarty30 wrote:
Taansend wrote:
Jarrell Miller would beat the granny out of Briggs :bag:
As would Ruiz, Wilder, Arreola, Molina, Mansour, Breazeale etc...
Arreola? Are you drunk?
:lol: I think you overestimate Shannon Briggs mate. Arreolas rotten but if he has anything left I'd give him the edge over Briggs yeah.
asdfjkl
Heavyweight
Heavyweight

Re: Joshua MUST Fight in America

Post by asdfjkl »

Stuarty30 wrote:
asdfjkl wrote:
Stuarty30 wrote:
As would Ruiz, Wilder, Arreola, Molina, Mansour, Breazeale etc...
Arreola? Are you drunk?
:lol: I think you overestimate Shannon Briggs mate. Arreolas rotten but if he has anything left I'd give him the edge over Briggs yeah.
Are you still drunk?
Jackson328
Middleweight
Posts: 411
Joined: 14 Nov 2013, 14:51

Re: Joshua MUST Fight in America

Post by Jackson328 »

asdfjkl wrote:
Stuarty30 wrote:
asdfjkl wrote: Spong doesn't have a boxing belt as far as I know, beltholders simply refuse to fight him.
Why would a title holder even entertain the thought of fighting a nobody who's only had 8 fights. He's not fought anyone worth a solitary fukk. Perhaps if he starts fighting some guys with a pulse even at Euro level then more people will know who he is. I've only heard of him because of your incessant ramblings!
I don't know, I don't care, it's him suggesting the idea, not me.
Nevertheless, I'm convinced he will accept those fights, like he will accept any fight, he's traveling all over the world to find opponents.
He now has 9 fights in 5 different countries, all ended in KO's, most in the first round.
Please note that he has always been champion of the world in kickboxing in all weightclasses he competed in, including heavyweight.
Spong ain't a joke or something, I'm just not sure if he can become it in heavyweight boxing as well.
So why would the biggest current name in world heavyweight boxing, a proven ppv sensation, Olympic gold winner, double belt holding destroyer etc etc entertain the notion of fighting this unheard of in boxing circles former kickboxer with 9 fights in 5 countries?

:brick:

"Please note that he has always been champion of the world in kickboxing in all weightclasses he competed in, including heavyweight."

:lol: ok ok I know, its just a wind up yeah?
Stuarty
Middleweight
Posts: 27293
Joined: 20 Aug 2014, 10:28

Re: Joshua MUST Fight in America

Post by Stuarty »

asdfjkl wrote:
Stuarty30 wrote:
asdfjkl wrote: Arreola? Are you drunk?
:lol: I think you overestimate Shannon Briggs mate. Arreolas rotten but if he has anything left I'd give him the edge over Briggs yeah.
Are you still drunk?
Half way there mate. I don't like Arreola I think he's crap. Tough enough but crap and a sad indictment on the recent state of the top division. I do however think if he was fit and had anything left he'd beat Briggs! You'd have to give Briggs a punchers chance early of course but nothing more. Who has Briggs fought/beat in the last TEN years to suggest anything other than a boring, tedious Arreola win if they fought? :maybe:
asdfjkl
Heavyweight
Heavyweight

Re: Joshua MUST Fight in America

Post by asdfjkl »

Jackson328 wrote:
asdfjkl wrote:
Stuarty30 wrote:
Why would a title holder even entertain the thought of fighting a nobody who's only had 8 fights. He's not fought anyone worth a solitary fukk. Perhaps if he starts fighting some guys with a pulse even at Euro level then more people will know who he is. I've only heard of him because of your incessant ramblings!
I don't know, I don't care, it's him suggesting the idea, not me.
Nevertheless, I'm convinced he will accept those fights, like he will accept any fight, he's traveling all over the world to find opponents.
He now has 9 fights in 5 different countries, all ended in KO's, most in the first round.
Please note that he has always been champion of the world in kickboxing in all weightclasses he competed in, including heavyweight.
Spong ain't a joke or something, I'm just not sure if he can become it in heavyweight boxing as well.
So why would the biggest current name in world heavyweight boxing, a proven ppv sensation, Olympic gold winner, double belt holding destroyer etc etc entertain the notion of fighting this unheard of in boxing circles former kickboxer with 9 fights in 5 countries?

:brick:

"Please note that he has always been champion of the world in kickboxing in all weightclasses he competed in, including heavyweight."

:lol: ok ok I know, its just a wind up yeah?
Once again, it's PredatorHayds who suggested it, not me.
asdfjkl
Heavyweight
Heavyweight

Re: Joshua MUST Fight in America

Post by asdfjkl »

Stuarty30 wrote:
asdfjkl wrote:
Stuarty30 wrote:
:lol: I think you overestimate Shannon Briggs mate. Arreolas rotten but if he has anything left I'd give him the edge over Briggs yeah.
Are you still drunk?
Half way there mate. I don't like Arreola I think he's crap. Tough enough but crap and a sad indictment on the recent state of the top division. I do however think if he was fit and had anything left he'd beat Briggs! You'd have to give Briggs a punchers chance early of course but nothing more. Who has Briggs fought/beat in the last TEN years to suggest anything other than a boring, tedious Arreola win if they fought? :maybe:
Oké, Arreola made Wilder a cripple, but that's really it.
Briggs challenged loads of people, especially fake top contenders, like Wilder, Haye, name them, but nobody dared, that's not his fould, Briggs loved to fight them.
Stuarty
Middleweight
Posts: 27293
Joined: 20 Aug 2014, 10:28

Re: Joshua MUST Fight in America

Post by Stuarty »

asdfjkl wrote:
Stuarty30 wrote:
asdfjkl wrote: Are you still drunk?
Half way there mate. I don't like Arreola I think he's crap. Tough enough but crap and a sad indictment on the recent state of the top division. I do however think if he was fit and had anything left he'd beat Briggs! You'd have to give Briggs a punchers chance early of course but nothing more. Who has Briggs fought/beat in the last TEN years to suggest anything other than a boring, tedious Arreola win if they fought? :maybe:
Oké, Arreola made Wilder a cripple, but that's really it.
Briggs challenged loads of people, especially fake top contenders, like Wilder, Haye, name them, but nobody dared, that's not his fould, Briggs loved to fight them.
You need to jump off the Briggs bullshìt train and quick mate. I actually wanted him to win a significant fight or a daft world strap just for sentimental value but the games up man! He's been a pro how long? About 25 years? It's been 7ish years since the one sided Vitali Klitschko raping and that was uncomfortable viewing for most folk with a heart! He's beaten nobody (I don't think) since Liakovich in a close one, fuckin years back! Jesus mate! Get a grip!
Jackson328
Middleweight
Posts: 411
Joined: 14 Nov 2013, 14:51

Re: Joshua MUST Fight in America

Post by Jackson328 »

asdfjkl wrote:
Stuarty30 wrote:
asdfjkl wrote: Are you still drunk?
Half way there mate. I don't like Arreola I think he's crap. Tough enough but crap and a sad indictment on the recent state of the top division. I do however think if he was fit and had anything left he'd beat Briggs! You'd have to give Briggs a punchers chance early of course but nothing more. Who has Briggs fought/beat in the last TEN years to suggest anything other than a boring, tedious Arreola win if they fought? :maybe:
Oké, Arreola made Wilder a cripple, but that's really it.
Briggs challenged loads of people, especially fake top contenders, like Wilder, Haye, name them, but nobody dared, that's not his fould, Briggs loved to fight them.
You are raving mad pal but I'd like you by my side in the trenches for sure, I think you'd willingly go without any fear where no other man dared to go despite being told otherwise by 99% of your comrades. Or maybe you'd be an officer like Lieutenant George . . . . and maybe you'd end up like General Sir Anthony Cecil Hogmanay Melchett baaaaaaah . . . .

:TU:
Stuarty
Middleweight
Posts: 27293
Joined: 20 Aug 2014, 10:28

Re: Joshua MUST Fight in America

Post by Stuarty »

Jackson328 wrote:
asdfjkl wrote:
Stuarty30 wrote:
Half way there mate. I don't like Arreola I think he's crap. Tough enough but crap and a sad indictment on the recent state of the top division. I do however think if he was fit and had anything left he'd beat Briggs! You'd have to give Briggs a punchers chance early of course but nothing more. Who has Briggs fought/beat in the last TEN years to suggest anything other than a boring, tedious Arreola win if they fought? :maybe:
Oké, Arreola made Wilder a cripple, but that's really it.
Briggs challenged loads of people, especially fake top contenders, like Wilder, Haye, name them, but nobody dared, that's not his fould, Briggs loved to fight them.
You are raving mad pal but I'd like you by my side in the trenches for sure, I think you'd willingly go without any fear where no other man dared to go despite being told otherwise by 99% of your comrades. Or maybe you'd be an officer like Lieutenant George . . . . and maybe you'd end up like General Sir Anthony Cecil Hogmanay Melchett baaaaaaah . . . .

:TU:
Operation Dutch Human Shield :yay:
SaadOffTheDeck
Heavyweight
Heavyweight
Posts: 19602
Joined: 04 Jun 2009, 07:38

Re: Joshua MUST Fight in America

Post by SaadOffTheDeck »

I think that's the first time I've ever seen call outs used as resume. Perhaps I've underestimated his comedic value? Unignore it is!
Taansend
Heavyweight
Heavyweight
Posts: 12048
Joined: 10 Jul 2004, 17:38

Re: Joshua MUST Fight in America

Post by Taansend »

Stuarty30 wrote:
Taansend wrote:
Stuarty30 wrote:
He was over there recently promoting the Wlad fight wasn't he? Should be ok I'd imagine. There's ways round these things.

I've always fancied Vegas one day but I have a criminal record. There's a guy I know through work that's a proper crook and he goes to Florida every second year and hasn't had any issues. I think it's just your luck. Also heard a story about a guy being turned away at the airport for something daft. Lost thousands of pounds on his holiday. No choice but to just go home out of pocket. Fukk that!
I had some mates visit me last year and two have them have plenty of arrests and convictions for assault etc. They had no problems.
Ive got an assault to severe injury, two common assaults and three possession of Ching. Some driving offences from four years ago. The rest were ten or so years back.
The nose might be a problem.

Or you could always dress like Mel Gibson in Braveheart & say your 'crimes' were against British aggression & they'd give you the red carpet.

They lap that shite up.
Taansend
Heavyweight
Heavyweight
Posts: 12048
Joined: 10 Jul 2004, 17:38

Re: Joshua MUST Fight in America

Post by Taansend »

asdfjkl wrote:
Stuarty30 wrote:
asdfjkl wrote: Are you still drunk?
Half way there mate. I don't like Arreola I think he's crap. Tough enough but crap and a sad indictment on the recent state of the top division. I do however think if he was fit and had anything left he'd beat Briggs! You'd have to give Briggs a punchers chance early of course but nothing more. Who has Briggs fought/beat in the last TEN years to suggest anything other than a boring, tedious Arreola win if they fought? :maybe:
Oké, Arreola made Wilder a cripple, but that's really it.
Briggs challenged loads of people, especially fake top contenders, like Wilder, Haye, name them, but nobody dared, that's not his fould, Briggs loved to fight them.
I've also challenged them. They wouldn't fight me either :verysad:
asdfjkl
Heavyweight
Heavyweight

Re: Joshua MUST Fight in America

Post by asdfjkl »

Stuarty30 wrote:
asdfjkl wrote:
Stuarty30 wrote:
Half way there mate. I don't like Arreola I think he's crap. Tough enough but crap and a sad indictment on the recent state of the top division. I do however think if he was fit and had anything left he'd beat Briggs! You'd have to give Briggs a punchers chance early of course but nothing more. Who has Briggs fought/beat in the last TEN years to suggest anything other than a boring, tedious Arreola win if they fought? :maybe:
Oké, Arreola made Wilder a cripple, but that's really it.
Briggs challenged loads of people, especially fake top contenders, like Wilder, Haye, name them, but nobody dared, that's not his fould, Briggs loved to fight them.
You need to jump off the Briggs bullshìt train and quick mate. I actually wanted him to win a significant fight or a daft world strap just for sentimental value but the games up man! He's been a pro how long? About 25 years? It's been 7ish years since the one sided Vitali Klitschko raping and that was uncomfortable viewing for most folk with a heart! He's beaten nobody (I don't think) since Liakovich in a close one, fuckin years back! Jesus mate! Get a grip!
Oke, he tore his biceps in the very early beginning of the fight, but still made it till the end. It's pretty much if you put Wlad in front of Wilder, right after the Arreola fight. That's the latest time Briggs had a chance to fight someone.
Guys like Ortiz, Povetkin, Briggs, name them are simply top contenders without the media behind them. Daffy Duck, Wilder, such guys do have the media behind them, despite they are absolute trash compared to the earlier mentioned names.
I'm not even saying Briggs is like top of the world, but he's sure a top 25 ish boxer and used to be a top 15 ish.
Cyclops
Heavyweight
Heavyweight
Posts: 5744
Joined: 13 Jun 2009, 04:14

Re: Joshua MUST Fight in America

Post by Cyclops »

asdfjkl wrote:
Stuarty30 wrote:
asdfjkl wrote: Oké, Arreola made Wilder a cripple, but that's really it.
Briggs challenged loads of people, especially fake top contenders, like Wilder, Haye, name them, but nobody dared, that's not his fould, Briggs loved to fight them.
You need to jump off the Briggs bullshìt train and quick mate. I actually wanted him to win a significant fight or a daft world strap just for sentimental value but the games up man! He's been a pro how long? About 25 years? It's been 7ish years since the one sided Vitali Klitschko raping and that was uncomfortable viewing for most folk with a heart! He's beaten nobody (I don't think) since Liakovich in a close one, fuckin years back! Jesus mate! Get a grip!
Oke, he tore his biceps in the very early beginning of the fight, but still made it till the end. It's pretty much if you put Wlad in front of Wilder, right after the Arreola fight. That's the latest time Briggs had a chance to fight someone.
Guys like Ortiz, Povetkin, Briggs, name them are simply top contenders without the media behind them. Daffy Duck, Wilder, such guys do have the media behind them, despite they are absolute trash compared to the earlier mentioned names.
I'm not even saying Briggs is like top of the world, but he's sure a top 25 ish boxer and used to be a top 15 ish.
I seem to recall asking you before what your favourite Shannon Briggs fight was and you couldn't name one, almost as if you'd never watched any. If you are going to commit yourself to this trolling I hope you have gone and done a bit more research now. Don't use your last answer "one he hasn't had yet"

If you're such a big fan of the bloke you should have seen all his fights on YouTube, right?
Stuarty
Middleweight
Posts: 27293
Joined: 20 Aug 2014, 10:28

Re: Joshua MUST Fight in America

Post by Stuarty »

asdfjkl wrote:
Stuarty30 wrote:
asdfjkl wrote: Oké, Arreola made Wilder a cripple, but that's really it.
Briggs challenged loads of people, especially fake top contenders, like Wilder, Haye, name them, but nobody dared, that's not his fould, Briggs loved to fight them.
You need to jump off the Briggs bullshìt train and quick mate. I actually wanted him to win a significant fight or a daft world strap just for sentimental value but the games up man! He's been a pro how long? About 25 years? It's been 7ish years since the one sided Vitali Klitschko raping and that was uncomfortable viewing for most folk with a heart! He's beaten nobody (I don't think) since Liakovich in a close one, fuckin years back! Jesus mate! Get a grip!
Oke, he tore his biceps in the very early beginning of the fight, but still made it till the end. It's pretty much if you put Wlad in front of Wilder, right after the Arreola fight. That's the latest time Briggs had a chance to fight someone.
Guys like Ortiz, Povetkin, Briggs, name them are simply top contenders without the media behind them. Daffy Duck, Wilder, such guys do have the media behind them, despite they are absolute trash compared to the earlier mentioned names.
I'm not even saying Briggs is like top of the world, but he's sure a top 25 ish boxer and used to be a top 15 ish.
Mate I've watched Briggs since I was a child in the 90s and he was a fringe contender then ffs! I know I play the clown at times on here but I do have some boxing knowledge. I'm a staunch, hardcore fan of the game and I've even had the gloves on myself albeit when I was a boy and amateur. Your knowledge of the sport is gash. I learn every day about our sport and I'd invite you to do the same. Try and broaden your horizons and look beyond the frankly average heavyweight scene. Maybe if you do that you'll actually learn some fundamentals and people might take you a bit more seriously :maybe:
PredatorHayds
Super Welterweight
Posts: 4891
Joined: 08 Jul 2015, 08:23

Re: Joshua MUST Fight in America

Post by PredatorHayds »

I was tongue in cheek saying Spong.

Thought you'd see the irony. He's nowhere near world level and won't be.

In regards to big fights still in the states it still boils down to money.

Prizefighters by definition will usually chase the biggest prize. Casino money and the huge US PPV fee still earn more money than ticket sales and sky PPV.
The only exception of astronomical money away from casinos or PPV Ican think of is Povetkin-Wlad.
Post Reply