Ward vs Kovalev 2 RBR Discussion

[KiwiRider]

..I don't even care who was winning, it could've been Ward..I didn't like Kovalev's prefight trash talk..the stoppage was illegit and that's what counts..I've always said, Nevada State Commission set the time bomb appointing the local judges..

Watch the last 30 seconds again.

[Ricky_]

That was also the only low blow out of the three. Kovalev was done man. Let it go. Was that last one low, yes. Should it have gone on, probably. You mean to tell me that Kovalev wins this fight. Come on.......

Wtf the previous shots were low too.

What an idiot you are. Even if it was the only 1, you don't wave a guy off who just winced from a shot to the bollocks. Idiot.

Other shots weren't low tough guy. I do agree that he should have at least got a standing 8, or they reset from the low blow. However, Kovalev was spent, bottom line.

Go be tough with the 12 year olds down the block now Ricky....

You want to give a guy who just got punched square in the nuts a standing 8?

Stop watching boxing.

[Gorlomi]

They stopped the broadcast too quickly here in Russia, so I couldn't catch the interviews, but to me, Kovalev looked like he agreed with the stoppage.

[armageto]

What is "pretty unbiased"?

I like Kovalev and wanted him to win. I thought Ward would win, but was rooting for Kovalev. Pretty unbiased means just that. I judged the fight unbiased. I had no money on the fight.

Right. Because a post like "Haaaaaaa. Let's see idiots complain now." Surely makes it sound unbias. Just be honest. You scored the close rounds for Ward. No big ass deal.

What was your card? I gather most range from 4-3 Ward to 4-3 Kovalev. In all honesty, I get sick of some of these idiots complaining about every US or black fighter, they know who they are. So no matter who won, I was a winner. Happy if Kovalev won for more excitement in the division or happy if Ward won so these idiots could shut the Hell up. Unfortunately, they still think Kovalev would have stormed back, dead tired, to secure a KO.

Case in point, I wanted Wlad to beat Joshua. Yet I still picked Joshua to win. Just because I root for one guy, doesn't mean I think he will win. Or not give him his props after a win.

[IKSRTFO]

Only one punch looked low to me. I wanted them to let it continue, but Kovalev was crouched over, leaning on the ropes, not doing much of anything. I understand the stoppage, but they should have given him more time. Which would have resulted into him just quitting or getting iced. Kovalev was done.

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How was he done fool? Had Weeks followed proper protocol he would have deducted a point from Ward and then given Kovalev 5 minutes to recuperate? But he didn't do any of that, he simply stopped the fight. He didn't even give Kovalev a standing 8 count. Total bias/corrupt officiating. Weeks should never get another assignment.

As for Max Kellerman, FVCK YOU, you biased poop.

So, Kovalev didn't look exhausted to you? Kovalev didn't look spent? Kovalev is known for big second half of fights and not fading? Give me a break. He was out done tonight. The last punch WAS low. The other two weren't. Most of the "low blows" were just Kovalev complaining about nothing. Replays even show most of them to be legal of border beltline, which he had his belly button covered by the trunks, making it legal blows.


Stop crying and go to sleep.

People afraid to admit that Kovalev looked bad. It wasn't like without the low blow, Kovalev was going to come back and win the fight.

[ValMar]

Kovalev was hurt before stoppage, his stamina is very questionable, at least. Honestly, it is very difficult to say whether there were low blows before the TKO, or borderline ones, I am not sure, definitely. Interesting, but Weeks did not allow a lot of wrestling/holding/clinching.
My score before eighth round was 4-3 for Kovalev, but he was out of gas, and there was no way for him to win.

Ward is a great boxer, but very dirty, and I will never root for him. Never !

[armageto]

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How was he done fool? Had Weeks followed proper protocol he would have deducted a point from Ward and then given Kovalev 5 minutes to recuperate? But he didn't do any of that, he simply stopped the fight. He didn't even give Kovalev a standing 8 count. Total bias/corrupt officiating. Weeks should never get another assignment.

As for Max Kellerman, FVCK YOU, you biased poop.

So, Kovalev didn't look exhausted to you? Kovalev didn't look spent? Kovalev is known for big second half of fights and not fading? Give me a break. He was out done tonight. The last punch WAS low. The other two weren't. Most of the "low blows" were just Kovalev complaining about nothing. Replays even show most of them to be legal of border beltline, which he had his belly button covered by the trunks, making it legal blows.


Stop crying and go to sleep.

You are so stupid. I remember you from Boxingtalk. You are just as dumb now as you were then. If you can't understand the rules of boxing then don't take part in adult conversations.

See, now you are lying because this is the first boxing forum I've ever been on. I fully understand the rules and already stated Kovalev should have gotten a standing 8, or at least a low blow recovery from that last punch. However, that would have changed NOTHING from the fight. Kovalev was spent....

[victor-romeo]

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How was he done fool? Had Weeks followed proper protocol he would have deducted a point from Ward and then given Kovalev 5 minutes to recuperate? But he didn't do any of that, he simply stopped the fight. He didn't even give Kovalev a standing 8 count. Total bias/corrupt officiating. Weeks should never get another assignment.

As for Max Kellerman, FVCK YOU, you biased poop.

So, Kovalev didn't look exhausted to you? Kovalev didn't look spent? Kovalev is known for big second half of fights and not fading? Give me a break. He was out done tonight. The last punch WAS low. The other two weren't. Most of the "low blows" were just Kovalev complaining about nothing. Replays even show most of them to be legal of border beltline, which he had his belly button covered by the trunks, making it legal blows.


Stop crying and go to sleep.

People afraid to admit that Kovalev looked bad. It wasn't like without the low blow, Kovalev was going to come back and win the fight.

I thought he was winning the fight but tiring,..So even though he was gassing I had him winning the fight up to the controversial stoppage.. and people get second winds..That was a lame ending..

[greg]

Kovalev was hurt before stoppage, his stamina is very questionable, at least. Honestly, it is very difficult to say whether there were low blows before the TKO, or borderline ones, I am not sure, definitely. Interesting, but Weeks did not allow a lot of wrestling/holding/clinching.
My score before eighth round was 4-3 for Kovalev, but he was out of gas, and there was no way for him to win.

Ward is a great boxer, but very dirty, and I will never root for him. Never !

not, it's not that difficult...

[victor-romeo]

His main disadvantage is that he wants to fight for dollars in the USA , he is never going to get a fair shake here against an American star, then again he wants those dollars so that is his disadvantage..

[armageto]

Wtf the previous shots were low too.

What an idiot you are. Even if it was the only 1, you don't wave a guy off who just winced from a shot to the bollocks. Idiot.

Other shots weren't low tough guy. I do agree that he should have at least got a standing 8, or they reset from the low blow. However, Kovalev was spent, bottom line.

Go be tough with the 12 year olds down the block now Ricky....

You want to give a guy who just got punched square in the nuts a standing 8?

Stop watching boxing.

Kovalev was already in MAJOR trouble from blows, all legal, WAY before that last punch. He never went down and I'm not sure if Weeks was at an angle to see that last punch. So yes, Kovalev should have at least gotten a standing 8. If Weeks SAW it was a low blow, then yes, he should have given Kovalev a breather. I can't say if Weeks saw the punch or not. Is that hard to understand?

[IKSRTFO]

So, Kovalev didn't look exhausted to you? Kovalev didn't look spent? Kovalev is known for big second half of fights and not fading? Give me a break. He was out done tonight. The last punch WAS low. The other two weren't. Most of the "low blows" were just Kovalev complaining about nothing. Replays even show most of them to be legal of border beltline, which he had his belly button covered by the trunks, making it legal blows.


Stop crying and go to sleep.

People afraid to admit that Kovalev looked bad. It wasn't like without the low blow, Kovalev was going to come back and win the fight.

I thought he was winning the fight but tiring,..So even though he was gassing I had him winning the fight up to the controversial stoppage.. and people get second winds..That was a lame ending..

Kovalev wasn't getting a second wind. He was clearly on his way to losing. He was getting hurt by headshots by Ward. Is this the same guy that everyone said was going to destroy Ward.

[armageto]

So, Kovalev didn't look exhausted to you? Kovalev didn't look spent? Kovalev is known for big second half of fights and not fading? Give me a break. He was out done tonight. The last punch WAS low. The other two weren't. Most of the "low blows" were just Kovalev complaining about nothing. Replays even show most of them to be legal of border beltline, which he had his belly button covered by the trunks, making it legal blows.


Stop crying and go to sleep.

People afraid to admit that Kovalev looked bad. It wasn't like without the low blow, Kovalev was going to come back and win the fight.

I thought he was winning the fight but tiring,..So even though he was gassing I had him winning the fight up to the controversial stoppage.. and people get second winds..That was a lame ending..

I'd agree, aside the fact Kovalev hasn't looked great later in some fights, even in the last Ward fight. He looked worse for wear even before that last low blow. Even if given a breather, I think it's only matter of time. Not even looking at his record, but I don't think Kovalev has too many stoppages past 8?

[Blodhemn]

I like Kovalev and wanted him to win. I thought Ward would win, but was rooting for Kovalev. Pretty unbiased means just that. I judged the fight unbiased. I had no money on the fight.

Right. Because a post like "Haaaaaaa. Let's see idiots complain now." Surely makes it sound unbias. Just be honest. You scored the close rounds for Ward. No big ass deal.

What was your card? I gather most range from 4-3 Ward to 4-3 Kovalev. In all honesty, I get sick of some of these idiots complaining about every US or black fighter, they know who they are. So no matter who won, I was a winner. Happy if Kovalev won for more excitement in the division or happy if Ward won so these idiots could shut the Hell up. Unfortunately, they still think Kovalev would have stormed back, dead tired, to secure a KO.

Case in point, I wanted Wlad to beat Joshua. Yet I still picked Joshua to win. Just because I root for one guy, doesn't mean I think he will win. Or not give him his props after a win.

But the "idiots" were right. I was getting sick of reading the prefight excuses, but they all turned out to be true. Posting a resounding "Haaaaa." doesn't look any more unbias than listening to RJJ commentate.

I scored it 5-2 Kovalev, giving Ward the opening round, which also could've gone to Kovalev. 4-3 Ward is off.

[victor-romeo]

People afraid to admit that Kovalev looked bad. It wasn't like without the low blow, Kovalev was going to come back and win the fight.

I thought he was winning the fight but tiring,..So even though he was gassing I had him winning the fight up to the controversial stoppage.. and people get second winds..That was a lame ending..

Kovalev wasn't getting a second wind. He was clearly on his way to losing. He was getting hurt by headshots by Ward. Is this the same guy that everyone said was going to destroy Ward.

I said "people " get second winds, we will never know if Kovalev would because the fight was stopped.

[greg]

See, now you are lying because this is the first boxing forum I've ever been on. I fully understand the rules and already stated Kovalev should have gotten a standing 8, or at least a low blow recovery from that last punch. However, that would have changed NOTHING from the fight. Kovalev was spent....

..Kovalev was spent in their first fight as of round 5..it was still very competetive..

[IKSRTFO]

See, now you are lying because this is the first boxing forum I've ever been on. I fully understand the rules and already stated Kovalev should have gotten a standing 8, or at least a low blow recovery from that last punch. However, that would have changed NOTHING from the fight. Kovalev was spent....

..Kovalev was spent in their first fight as of round 5..it was still very competetive..

He wasn't getting wobbled by headshots in the first fight.

[Blodhemn]

His main disadvantage is that he wants to fight for dollars in the USA , he is never going to get a fair shake here against an American star, then again he wants those dollars so that is his disadvantage..

He really should just get a deal in Russia, but he likes living in Cali apparently.

[greg]

See, now you are lying because this is the first boxing forum I've ever been on. I fully understand the rules and already stated Kovalev should have gotten a standing 8, or at least a low blow recovery from that last punch. However, that would have changed NOTHING from the fight. Kovalev was spent....

..Kovalev was spent in their first fight as of round 5..it was still very competetive..

He wasn't getting wobbled by headshots in the first fight.

nor was he repeatedly hit below the belt

[victor-romeo]

I had fight up until 8th round
ward kovalev
1. 10 10
2. 9 10
3. 9 10
4.10 9
5.10 9
6. 9 10
7. 9 10

[armageto]

Right. Because a post like "Haaaaaaa. Let's see idiots complain now." Surely makes it sound unbias. Just be honest. You scored the close rounds for Ward. No big ass deal.

What was your card? I gather most range from 4-3 Ward to 4-3 Kovalev. In all honesty, I get sick of some of these idiots complaining about every US or black fighter, they know who they are. So no matter who won, I was a winner. Happy if Kovalev won for more excitement in the division or happy if Ward won so these idiots could shut the Hell up. Unfortunately, they still think Kovalev would have stormed back, dead tired, to secure a KO.

Case in point, I wanted Wlad to beat Joshua. Yet I still picked Joshua to win. Just because I root for one guy, doesn't mean I think he will win. Or not give him his props after a win.

But the "idiots" were right. I was getting sick of reading the prefight excuses, but they all turned out to be true. Posting a resounding "Haaaaa." doesn't look any more unbias than listening to RJJ commentate.

I scored it 5-2 Kovalev, giving Ward the opening round, which also could've gone to Kovalev. 4-3 Ward is off.

To each their own sir. I could see 4-3 Kovalev, I just think 5-2 is too high. What were the official scores, if given?

[Best Coast]

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How was he done fool? Had Weeks followed proper protocol he would have deducted a point from Ward and then given Kovalev 5 minutes to recuperate? But he didn't do any of that, he simply stopped the fight. He didn't even give Kovalev a standing 8 count. Total bias/corrupt officiating. Weeks should never get another assignment.

As for Max Kellerman, FVCK YOU, you biased poop.

So, Kovalev didn't look exhausted to you? Kovalev didn't look spent? Kovalev is known for big second half of fights and not fading? Give me a break. He was out done tonight. The last punch WAS low. The other two weren't. Most of the "low blows" were just Kovalev complaining about nothing. Replays even show most of them to be legal of border beltline, which he had his belly button covered by the trunks, making it legal blows.


Stop crying and go to sleep.

People afraid to admit that Kovalev looked bad. It wasn't like without the low blow, Kovalev was going to come back and win the fight.

Agreed! Kovalev was up on the cards but was fading fast and likely would not have made it past the 9th, even if he had been given a standing 8 count instead of the stoppage.

[Leatherface]

He wasn't getting wobbled by headshots in the first fight.

haha now it's multiple wobbles- idiot

dude took absolute best punch Andre has ever landed, and was still standing

[armageto]

See, now you are lying because this is the first boxing forum I've ever been on. I fully understand the rules and already stated Kovalev should have gotten a standing 8, or at least a low blow recovery from that last punch. However, that would have changed NOTHING from the fight. Kovalev was spent....

..Kovalev was spent in their first fight as of round 5..it was still very competetive..

I disagree. Ward really dominated the second half of the first fight. Kovalev was already rocked and hurt in this one. It was competitive, only because the big first half by Kovalev.

IMO, Kovalev looked a lot better in the first fight than tonight, even excluding the knockdown.

[Leatherface]

before Low Blow, and big power shot, are you people really seeing Andre coming on in the fight? He'd looked gassed and slow since the 5th