Were Ward's controversial blows LEGAL or ILLEGAL?

Were Ward's controversial blows LEGAL or ILLEGAL???

Poll ended at 13 Mar 2020, 02:40

Below the belt line (illegal)
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77%
Above the belt line (legal)
16
23%
 
Total votes: 69

Freedom2013
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Were Ward's controversial blows LEGAL or ILLEGAL?

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Were Andre Ward's controversial low blows LEGAL or ILLEGAL???
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Freedom2013 wrote:Were Andre Ward's controversial low blows LEGAL or ILLEGAL???
Many of them were borderline near the finish.

I thought you were quitting boxing?
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I can not answer this question, I have not been able to see properly. Anyway, stoppage was premature, but Kovalev was so exausted that he would certainly lose.
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There is no arguing. With habe proof. Freedom or ricky showed a perfect video of the last punch, a clear low blow with full power to kovlaev genitals cup.
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..those decisive ones were against the boxing rules and I tend to believe most if not all deliberate...
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Re: Were Ward's controversial blows LEGAL or ILLEGAL?

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what about the head butts ? i saw one in the tenth that looked to wobble kovalev .
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Clearly legal in Vegas.
rab wrote:what about the head butts ? i saw one in the tenth that looked to wobble kovalev .
Werd. That 10th round was off the hook.
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Re: Were Ward's controversial blows LEGAL or ILLEGAL?

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Another robbery imo.. disgusting low blows, and Tony weeks should be fined and not allowed to ref world title fights until seen fit.. it's not good for the sport.
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Enlightened-One wrote:Many of them were borderline near the finish.

I thought you were quitting boxing?
I'm not watching or following boxing after this. I'll be posting about THIS fight for awhile. I will not be able to comment on future fights, because I won't be watching.

One exception: Canelo-GGG is interesting to me because I like both boxers and neither K-2 or Golden Boy are corrupt, so it will be a fair fight.
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Re: Were Ward's controversial blows LEGAL or ILLEGAL?

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When someone is bent at an almost 90 degree angle, it's almost impossible to not punch a little low from certain angles.
So can a guy who is hurt to the body do that to limit any body punches?
No, you just get hit a little low for bending like that.
Kovalev was yielding to pressure at the time of the stoppage.

Stop making excuses.
Dude was gassing from the 3rd.
Max and Roy were calling it (which ended up being the truth),
while many of you were chasing Lederman's fantasy card.
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BAD INTENTIONS wrote:When someone is bent at an almost 90 degree angle, it's almost impossible to not punch a little low from certain angles.
So can a guy who is hurt to the body do that to limit any body punches?
No, you just get hit a little low for bending like that.
Kovalev was yielding to pressure at the time of the stoppage.

Stop making excuses.
Dude was gassing from the 3rd.
Max and Roy were calling it (which ended up being the truth),
while many of you were chasing Lederman's fantasy card.
:TU:

Amazing performance.
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Remember Hooker-Perez?

Then Ward-Kovalev I, Rigo-Flores, Ward-Kovalev II

Bad officiating favoring Roc Nation boxers in all four fights.
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BAD INTENTIONS wrote:When someone is bent at an almost 90 degree angle, it's almost impossible to not punch a little low from certain angles.

Wtf... stupid post. Leaning forward hardly makes your dick easier to hit, if anything it makes it harder to reach.
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Re: Were Ward's controversial blows LEGAL or ILLEGAL?

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Ricky_ wrote:
BAD INTENTIONS wrote:When someone is bent at an almost 90 degree angle, it's almost impossible to not punch a little low from certain angles.

Wtf... stupid post. Leaning forward hardly makes your dick easier to hit, if anything it makes it harder to reach.
Did Kovalev throw a single punch from when Ward hurt him to when he got stopped? If the referee hadn't have stopped it what was going to happen? You can't just bend over double at the ropes and stop fighting, which is what he did. He was looking for the ref in the previous round too, he didn't like what Ward was doing to him and he quit. Simple as that. If he wanted to fight on he should have took a knee.
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greg wrote:Image

Right on the B for balls on Kovs shorts.

You can see him tuck his chin when he sees the shot coming and his guard is protecting the body. So Ward just sticks one on the dick and gets the ko.
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Re: Were Ward's controversial blows LEGAL or ILLEGAL?

Post by Enlightened-One »

Freedom2013 wrote:
Enlightened-One wrote:Many of them were borderline near the finish.

I thought you were quitting boxing?
I'm not watching or following boxing after this. I'll be posting about THIS fight for awhile. I will not be able to comment on future fights, because I won't be watching.

One exception: Canelo-GGG is interesting to me because I like both boxers and neither K-2 or Golden Boy are corrupt, so it will be a fair fight.
Simply put, you're admitting to lying then?
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Re: Were Ward's controversial blows LEGAL or ILLEGAL?

Post by Ricky_ »

Covfefe wrote:
Ricky_ wrote:
BAD INTENTIONS wrote:When someone is bent at an almost 90 degree angle, it's almost impossible to not punch a little low from certain angles.

Wtf... stupid post. Leaning forward hardly makes your dick easier to hit, if anything it makes it harder to reach.
Did Kovalev throw a single punch from when Ward hurt him to when he got stopped? If the referee hadn't have stopped it what was going to happen? You can't just bend over double at the ropes and stop fighting, which is what he did. He was looking for the ref in the previous round too, he didn't like what Ward was doing to him and he quit. Simple as that. If he wanted to fight on he should have took a knee.
Kov was hurt by a great right hand but yes, he showed a great chin and threw some shots back.

The referee simply failed to do his duty. Kovalev might have still been shook but he is protecting himself on the ropes. Ward absolutely unloaded on his dick. The very least that should have happened is Kovalev is given minutes to recover from the illegal foul. Although the power in those low blows, combined with them being more than 1, should have been a point off for Ward. That shit was DQ territory.
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Freedom2013 wrote:Remember Hooker-Perez?

Then Ward-Kovalev I, Rigo-Flores, Ward-Kovalev II

Bad officiating favoring Roc Nation boxers in all four fights.
Yeah. Bad decisions just seem to gravitate towards them for some reason. Surely just coincidence of the incompetence order, every time. It's all good. Nothing to see here. Nothing shady. No criminal element, at all, of any sort. :lol:
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ValMar wrote:I can not answer this question, I have not been able to see properly. Anyway, stoppage was premature, but Kovalev was so exausted that he would certainly lose.
He was low blowed earlier and only protecting he balls who hurted a lot because of the blows before.
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BAD INTENTIONS wrote:When someone is bent at an almost 90 degree angle, it's almost impossible to not punch a little low from certain angles.
So can a guy who is hurt to the body do that to limit any body punches?
No, you just get hit a little low for bending like that.
Kovalev was yielding to pressure at the time of the stoppage.

Stop making excuses.
Dude was gassing from the 3rd.
Max and Roy were calling it (which ended up being the truth),
while many of you were chasing Lederman's fantasy card.
Lol, Ward could easely hit him in his face, but no, he went all the way for his balls. Also, Kovalev was only bending because of the other low blows early in the same round, when the ref said come on, go on!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mzvtNCX3vP8

8th: Around 30:27 Ward hits Kovalev again full in his balls, and you see him thinking, shit, now I went to far I'm probably losing a point on that one. But no?! The refs says come on! Go on! Allmost like a supporter!
The fight goes on to everyone's surprise and Kovalev has no option left but knowing that his opponent will get away with ballblows. Kovalev visably has pain in his balls and that's also basically the only thing he protects and also the only thing Ward focusses on. Then the refs suddenly waves the fight off! Saying Ward is the winner?!

That's ridiculous and a massive plot twist.

Around 32:21 / 32:22 even Ward's own wife says "just fight" thinking her husband is disqualified like he should be, around 32:35 somehow she seems to realise that he isn't disqualified, but awarded beïng the winner instead!
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Post by man »

BAD INTENTIONS wrote:When someone is bent at an almost 90 degree angle, it's almost impossible to not punch a little low from certain angles.
on the other hand, it is really
difficult to land a low blow in
this position either. very hard
to believe you can reach the
genitals of someone bending
forward without intention to
do just that.

don't think kova would have won
anways, but ward did not fight a
clean fight.
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Re: Were Ward's controversial blows LEGAL or ILLEGAL?

Post by NateJR »

Most were right on the beltline, I seen 2 shots that were clearly low, but nothing excessive enough that called for a DQ or even a point deduction. The stoppage was questionable, but Kovalev was in alot of trouble and if Weeks allowed the fight to continue, Ward was eventually going to put him down and knock Kovalev out. Glad Ward won and even happier to see all the whiney bitches on here crying because Ward won the fight.. Crazy how someone who can't punch like Ward had Kovalev on queer street stumping around the ring like Bambi.. lmao
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