Ward is no Ali or Dennis Rodman. But boring people can have very successful careers in all walks of life if they're competent and disciplined like Ward. So lets here it for boring people.
..I've personally no problem watching and rooting for boring boxers ...what bothers me though, in anticipations of this fight, is that Ward seems to have learned how to get away with "dirty dancing" ...left unpunished, he might continue using his questionable tactics over and over again to the full satisfaction of his fans and local judges...
Yup, nothing wrong with dancing IF you're landing, I'd have no problem with a ref telling Ward or any dancing master who's not throwing meaningful shots to start fighting.
SaadOffTheDeck wrote:The big day is here. Who is more loathsome, ward or Tunney? Kovalev is a favorite of mine so I won't cheer against him, but if he happens to lose Tunney never posting again will soften the blow.
You'll still have to deal with the handful of other screwballs though.
IMO if Kovalev fights the exact same fight as the first fight he gets the decision this time because that's usually how it works. I can think of countless circumstances where a guy won the decision in the 2nd fight after being on what was perceived as the short end of the stick the first fight. IMO Ward has to win clearer this time to win another decision.
SaadOffTheDeck wrote:The big day is here. Who is more loathsome, ward or Tunney? Kovalev is a favorite of mine so I won't cheer against him, but if he happens to lose Tunney never posting again will soften the blow.
You'll still have to deal with the handful of other screwballs though.
Honestly, I haven't read anything offensive from him in years.
Freedom2013 wrote:Andre Ward wins by low blows which the referee saw but permitted.
And I'm done with this corrupt sport.
So long dude
He didn't get hit in the balls mate, he got hit on the lowside of the belt when he first started complaining, everyone is saying it was all borderline. He should have manned up at give him one straight back. Thought his complaining was very telling.
I think Kovalev has stamina issues if I am being honest.
I never said I was going to leave this forum or any other. I'll finish my PTBF year since I'm doing fairly well, but I will not participate in future years.
I won't post much in "Current scene" much in the future, but I've come to enjoy the "Off topic" section at BoxRec and will continue to post there.
But as I said, I'm not following or watching boxing anymore, it's too corrupt a sport. I'm sickened by it.
Andre "Son of Golota" Ward. If that was a fair stoppage tonight, than Golota should have got a TKO win for nailing Bowe in the stones.
I never said I was going to leave this forum or any other. I'll finish my PTBF year since I'm doing fairly well, but I will not participate in future years.
I won't post much in "Current scene" much in the future, but I've come to enjoy the "Off topic" section at BoxRec and will continue to post there.
But as I said, I'm not following or watching boxing anymore, it's too corrupt a sport. I'm sickened by it.
Why would you want to post in Current Scene at all if you're not following boxing any more?
So you can try to convince the rest of us how "corrupt" boxing is?
I never said I was going to leave this forum or any other. I'll finish my PTBF year since I'm doing fairly well, but I will not participate in future years.
I won't post much in "Current scene" much in the future, but I've come to enjoy the "Off topic" section at BoxRec and will continue to post there.
But as I said, I'm not following or watching boxing anymore, it's too corrupt a sport. I'm sickened by it.
Why would you want to post in Current Scene at all if you're not following boxing any more?
So you can try to convince the rest of us how "corrupt" boxing is?
Leave him alone. He is totaly right. What a disgraceful descision it was.
I never said I was going to leave this forum or any other. I'll finish my PTBF year since I'm doing fairly well, but I will not participate in future years.
I won't post much in "Current scene" much in the future, but I've come to enjoy the "Off topic" section at BoxRec and will continue to post there.
But as I said, I'm not following or watching boxing anymore, it's too corrupt a sport. I'm sickened by it.
Andre "Son of Golota" Ward. If that was a fair stoppage tonight, than Golota should have got a TKO win for nailing Bowe in the stones.
One thing I don't understand was Kovalev didn't even dispute the stoppage at the time. Why not? If you were OK why didn't you go nuts and demand to know why the ref stopped the fight and didn't see the illegal blows? I think the truth is - Kovalev was that exhausted he couldn't even think straight. He was clearly hurt. To the point he just wanted to sit down. He was hurt to the body pretty badly before the low blows halted the fight.
diddy wrote:One thing I don't understand was Kovalev didn't even dispute the stoppage at the time. Why not? If you were OK why didn't you go nuts and demand to know why the ref stopped the fight and didn't see the illegal blows? I think the truth is - Kovalev was that exhausted he couldn't even think straight. He was clearly hurt. To the point he just wanted to sit down. He was hurt to the body pretty badly before the low blows halted the fight.
At first he thought the ref was giving him time to recover from Ward's last big punch to the genitals.
Freedom2013 wrote:I never said I was going to leave this forum or any other. I'll finish my PTBF year since I'm doing fairly well, but I will not participate in future years.
I won't post much in "Current scene" much in the future, but I've come to enjoy the "Off topic" section at BoxRec and will continue to post there.
But as I said, I'm not following or watching boxing anymore, it's too corrupt a sport. I'm sickened by it.
Why would you want to post in Current Scene at all if you're not following boxing any more?
So you can try to convince the rest of us how "corrupt" boxing is?
Leave him alone. He is totaly right. What a disgraceful descision it was.
There are so many threads on this subject I don't know where to post. Sort it out mods it's a complete pig's breakfast. I chose this one as it seems to be the longest:
Firstly I had no preference as to who I wanted to win, i just wanted to see a good fight with a conclusion that was free from controversy ... not too much to ask I wouldn't have thought, given the credentials of both boxers.
As it turns out what could have been a good opportunity for the sport to shine, ends up another grubby little stain on it's pages. I feel sorry for Kovalev, (to a much lesser extent) for Ward, for the fans, and for boxing. Yes, you read that right I include Ward because I think Ward was on course to win anyway, unless I'm mistaken and the cause of Kovalev's discomfiture and physical deterioration was purely down to the low blows rather than good old honest gassing out.
I would have liked to have seen weeks give Kovalev time to recover, and to have made Ward understand in no uncertain terms that any repetition would cost him a point, and that it would be three strikes and out. I think he let everyone down there including himself.
I'm not going to overreact though. I have been watching boxing for a very long time, and seen plenty of incidents and decisions ranging from mildly surprising all the way to daylight robbery. I expect to see many more.
diddy wrote:One thing I don't understand was Kovalev didn't even dispute the stoppage at the time. Why not? If you were OK why didn't you go nuts and demand to know why the ref stopped the fight and didn't see the illegal blows? I think the truth is - Kovalev was that exhausted he couldn't even think straight. He was clearly hurt. To the point he just wanted to sit down. He was hurt to the body pretty badly before the low blows halted the fight.
He was low blowed early in the round as well and was defending his balls for about 2 minits in the end, even Ward himself seemed surprised he didn't get punished at that moment.
diddy wrote:One thing I don't understand was Kovalev didn't even dispute the stoppage at the time. Why not? If you were OK why didn't you go nuts and demand to know why the ref stopped the fight and didn't see the illegal blows? I think the truth is - Kovalev was that exhausted he couldn't even think straight. He was clearly hurt. To the point he just wanted to sit down. He was hurt to the body pretty badly before the low blows halted the fight.
At first he thought the ref was giving him time to recover from Ward's last big punch to the genitals.
Stop posting to this forum!
You've already admitted to disliking the sport and I've also quoted several of your anti-American racist posts... you shouldn't use this forum without conceding to also being a blatant lier!
diddy wrote:One thing I don't understand was Kovalev didn't even dispute the stoppage at the time. Why not? If you were OK why didn't you go nuts and demand to know why the ref stopped the fight and didn't see the illegal blows? I think the truth is - Kovalev was that exhausted he couldn't even think straight. He was clearly hurt. To the point he just wanted to sit down. He was hurt to the body pretty badly before the low blows halted the fight.
At first he thought the ref was giving him time to recover from Ward's last big punch to the genitals.
Stop posting to this forum!
You've already admitted to disliking the sport and I've also quoted several of your anti-American racist posts... you shouldn't use this forum without conceding to also being a blatant lier!
Guy, seriously, even Ward his wife thought Ward was disqualified lol.
...what bothers me though, in anticipations of this fight, is that Ward seems to have learned how to get away with "dirty dancing" ...left unpunished, he might continue using his questionable tactics over and over again to the full satisfaction of his fans
and local judges...
