Low blows in boxing

[Heretic]

I have seen surprisingly many people say that if you get hit in the nuts you should then return the favor.

Are people really that stupid?

I have seen quite many fights end by disqualification when fighters start to avenge dirty tactics in the ring. More often than not the avenging fighter is the one getting hosed in the end.

What is in your opinion the correct response when hit low?

[boxing_rocks]

You need to signal a referee, so that the low blow is registered. After recovery, punch the f*cker back into his nuts.

[greg]

new rules or old rules?

old rules: you signal a referee...
new rules: you should be the first to punch in the nuts making sure you (T)KO your opponent..

[BitPlayer]

Signal to the ref if it's safe, or if you have to go down and signal to the ref. If that doesn't work then you have to do something on your own, hit low back, and generally rough 'em up.

[Ezzard]

If you signal to the ref you get ignored.

[Kalan]

I don't believe in returning low blow for low blow because that drags you down to the other guy's level... Some guys are very skilled at low blows... What if Conor McGregor started kicking Floyd Mayweather in the head and Floyd tried to retaliate???? Who's going to get the better of those exchanges??? ...

You should NOT be forced to retaliate because you're already damaged when you're fouled... and the video of you deliberately trying to foul back because the referee refuses to protect you is there for eternity -- and will be taken out of context as -- "He fouled too." ... Get rid of corrupt referees.

[asdfjkl]

Teach the ref what the rules are, or let indepentant people, like me for example decide after the match what should happen.

In Ward/Kovalev their case it should be disqualification for Ward and also a multibillion dollar fine.
Kovalev could have made a 100 children who could all have been boxing champions and make piles of millions each year. By blowing his balls out on purpose, this would be impossible, so by paying Kovalev like 5 or 6 billion as compensation for what he destroyed, Ward should be very lucky.
Also, Ward should be in prison for all those murders.


Oh and for Armageto:
http://boxrec.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f ... 5#p4690706
The belt obviously was below the navel, I hope you know what a navel is, and where it is located, otherwise, ask your mum please.

[man]

would have loved to see riddick landing
a nuttercut ... i voted for hitting back low.
it's ugly, but this is how the world is.

[gilgamesh]

Punch the guy back in the nuts, harder than he punched you...or just carry on fighting as if it didn't happen

You may lose a point if you low blow him back, but chances are he's gonna stop hitting low. The fighter should NEVER complain to the ref about low blows. Leave it to the ref to discover or for his cornerman to mention in between rounds. The fighter needs to be focused on 1 thing and 1 thing only, his opponent.

Fighting Fire with Fire works by the way.

A perfect example I can give you. Kostya Tszyu vs Ricky Hatton...throughout the fight Tszyu landed several "borderline" low blows that I'm sure didn't tickle. He got told to keep 'em up a few times, but never got any point deductions or anything, well finally after quite a few of those borderline shots had landed Hatton came forward, and hit him square in the balls as hard as he possibly could. Tszyu dropped to the canvas in pain, and took a few minutes to recover and continue with the fight....there were no more borderline low blows from him that night.

[Ricky_]

The bottom line is the ref should do his damn job.

[gilgamesh]

The bottom line is the ref should do his damn job.

Fighters should do their job too, and not be looking to do the referees.

[Ricky_]

The bottom line is the ref should do his damn job.

Fighters should do their job too, and not be looking to do the referees.

Disagree. In any sport competitors should expect the officials apply the rules.

[gilgamesh]

The bottom line is the ref should do his damn job.

Fighters should do their job too, and not be looking to do the referees.

Disagree. In any sport competitors should expect the officials apply the rules.

Of course they should, but in a sport like Boxing your first and foremost priority is to PROTECT YOURSELF AT ALL TIMES. If you're looking at the referee saying "Hey ref he's hitting me low", "Hey ref watch his head", "Hey ref he hit me in the back of the head", "Hey ref he's holding me"...yeah you're letting the ref know, but you know what you're not doing? You're not protecting yourself.

Leave that sh*t to your cornerman to tell the referee if he ain't picking up on it himself.

If the guy is doing you dirty, do it back. It's a fight.

[Ricky_]

Fighters should do their job too, and not be looking to do the referees.

Disagree. In any sport competitors should expect the officials apply the rules.

Of course they should, but in a sport like Boxing your first and foremost priority is to PROTECT YOURSELF AT ALL TIMES. If you're looking at the referee saying "Hey ref he's hitting me low", "Hey ref watch his head", "Hey ref he hit me in the back of the head", "Hey ref he's holding me"...yeah you're letting the ref know, but you know what you're not doing? You're not protecting yourself.

Leave that sh*t to your cornerman to tell the referee if he ain't picking up on it himself.

If the guy is doing you dirty, do it back. It's a fight.

I get that's "the old school" approach given the antics i've seen recently from Hopkins and Dirrell i think the 'intentional foul' approach is a bad idea. What if tge ref is missing a guy leaving his head in? Sticking the nut on him is a quick way to get points off, DQ'd or potentially sued (if it goes real bad).

[dickbelden]

TONY WEEKS was bought---WARD is unbeatable as long as the ref is for sale !

[Tanzio]

Tony Weeks did a good job until the very end when he spared The Russian Whiner a thoroughly comprehensive beatdown.

[gilgamesh]

Disagree. In any sport competitors should expect the officials apply the rules.

Of course they should, but in a sport like Boxing your first and foremost priority is to PROTECT YOURSELF AT ALL TIMES. If you're looking at the referee saying "Hey ref he's hitting me low", "Hey ref watch his head", "Hey ref he hit me in the back of the head", "Hey ref he's holding me"...yeah you're letting the ref know, but you know what you're not doing? You're not protecting yourself.

Leave that sh*t to your cornerman to tell the referee if he ain't picking up on it himself.

If the guy is doing you dirty, do it back. It's a fight.

I get that's "the old school" approach given the antics i've seen recently from Hopkins and Dirrell i think the 'intentional foul' approach is a bad idea. What if tge ref is missing a guy leaving his head in? Sticking the nut on him is a quick way to get points off, DQ'd or potentially sued (if it goes real bad).

A p*ssy like Dirrell is gonna try to fake his way out of a fight on a clean punch if he can. If you're getting low blowed, low blow the guy back...that's my recommendation. Could there be repercussions for going about it that way? Sure...there could be repercussions for NOT going about it that way too.

That'd be my solution to the problem if I was in the guy's corner that's getting low blowed. If it's not how you'd handle fair enough. Everybody doesn't agree on everything. I'd do it myself if I was the guy in the ring, and I'd advise my guy to do it if I was in his corner. I would never suggest he does it first, but if it's being done to him...turnabout is fair play.

[Enlightened-One]

How should you respond if hit low in boxing

Your personal reaction to such a situation should be entirely natural. So if an illegal shot lands squarely on the genitals and really hurts, then your reaction will almost certainly be spontaneous and out of your control.

You have to trust the referee to do his job... and grin and bear it!

If you hinder the referee’s ability to do his job, by attempting to deceive him by wearing the groin protector so high that it’s worn above the navel, then don’t be surprised if your opponent fails to be subsequently penalised for landing any borderline shots either on the belt or slightly below it.

What you don’t do, is to bend submissively below your opponents’ waistline before they unload a barrage of shots, as your sole means of defence (much akin to turning your back on your opponent), because the only places that the opposing fighters’ punches can land is your kidneys, rabbit punches and a low blows.

If this happens, the fighter that is in distress, whilst wearing their groin protector far too high, is likely to receive no sympathy from the referee if they’re subsequently fouled.

In a fight where there’s no standing eight count, whereby you’re failing to defend yourself at all times, coupled with not landing any effective punches of your own… for a prolonged period of time, then the referee will almost certainly consider stopping the fight if you adopt a submissive stance, such as bending below your opponents’ waistline.

If you complain far too aggressively about low blows, whilst the referee ignores your complaints (due to your own fault for wearing the groin protector above the navel), then this will essentially inform your opponent that their strategy is supremely effective, which will inevitably encourage them to continue throwing borderline shots to the body.

[Freedom2013]

[SFW]

Lol. Couldn't have happened to a nicer guy... beautiful moment I do hope you savor it.

[Ossyrules]

It depends a bit. Some guys are skilled in the dirty side of boxing. Holyfield for example, call it old school smarts, or call it dirty, but he knew how to handle himself in this area. His head could be boring in on you all night, but if you get into that kind of fight you ain't gonna put do evander in that aspect. Mike could be dirty, but he was nowhere near as smart as Holyfield.

I don't really like this part of boxing, but it's boxing, it's dirty.

In the case of kovalev, if he couldn't adapt his tactics to stop ward getting the low blows in, and the ref weren't protecting him, I do think there's some mileage in cracking a low one back. A statement of intent that you aren't gonna be bullied

[Enlightened-One]

It depends a bit. Some guys are skilled in the dirty side of boxing. Holyfield for example, call it old school smarts, or call it dirty, but he knew how to handle himself in this area. His head could be boring in on you all night, but if you get into that kind of fight you ain't gonna put do evander in that aspect. Mike could be dirty, but he was nowhere near as smart as Holyfield.

I don't really like this part of boxing, but it's boxing, it's dirty.

In the case of kovalev, if he couldn't adapt his tactics to stop ward getting the low blows in, and the ref weren't protecting him, I do think there's some mileage in cracking a low one back. A statement of intent that you aren't gonna be bullied

I agree with the vast majority of your post, with one exception...

It's not a case of the referee failing to protect Sergey Kovalev.

The ref can't punish what he can't see. Ward knows how to conceal his old school tactics.

Also, I felt that Kovalev's groin protector was a tad high. It appeared to be worn well above his navel. The ref confirmed this during the fight.

So when Ward landed shots on or slightly below the Russian's belt, they weren't considered illegal low blows.

The ref made this abundantly clear to Sergey... and if language translation issues preveted him from comprehending this fact, then his cornermen should have explained this to him.

Perhaps Sergey should have fulfilled his pre-fight promises by adopting some dodgy old school tactics of his own during his rematch against Ward, but he didn't (other than his MMA head locks)... and the rest, they say, is history, because the "bully" got "bullied".

[boxing_rocks]

EO is a f*cking liar. You could see Kovalev's belly button above the belt, and you were already told that.

[man]

It's not a case of the referee failing to protect Sergey Kovalev.

The ref can't punish what he can't see. Ward knows how to conceal his old school tactics.

the clip of the final blow is all over the
board and you can clearly see that seconds
after the final low blow the referee enters
the frame from the left. which clearly means
he almost had the exact view point as the
camera. he was not far away, nor on the
wrong side of the exchange. this thing did
happen right in front of his eyes.

[Ricky_]

EO is a f*cking liar. You could see Kovalev's belly button above the belt, and you were already told that.

Fanny Fergus also seems to be lying about Kovalev bending below Wards waist line

I know sometimes fans can 'see what the want to see' but this is surely outright delusion.