ESPN & The RING discuss Kovalev's Excuses!

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ESPN & The RING discuss Kovalev's Excuses!

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"Scorecard: Andre Ward breaks Kovalev mentally and physically in TKO win" (Source: ESPN)

... the so-called controversy of their rematch is nothing more than a manufactured excuse by Kovalev, 34, who is from Russia and fights out of Los Angeles, and his team for supposed low blows that were the final punches Ward threw. In fact, while there may have been a shot or two during the bout that strayed low, none appeared on to be on purpose and, in fact, some were on the beltline area that referee Tony Weeks physically showed was legal during the pre-fight instructions.

What really happened here was that Ward, ... broke Kovalev mentally and physically. The end really began when Ward crushed the "Krusher" with probably the best right hand he has ever landed earlier in the eighth round. The shot badly wobbled Kovalev, whose legs nearly gave out on him. From there, Ward continued to pound Kovalev, who backed into the ropes, bent over and took three more body shots. He was done and Weeks stepped in at 2 minutes, off 29 seconds to give Ward a huge victory. Kovalev never complained to Weeks about the stoppage, a clear sign that it was legit. Ward, not known as a KO puncher, did outstanding body work throughout the fight, including landing 10 among the 20 total punches he landed in the eighth round, according to CompuBox statistics... The rematch was named "No Excuses." So nobody wants to hear any from Team Kovalev.


"What’s the excuse for not liking Andre Ward now?" (Source: The RING)

The fight was billed as “No Excuses.”

But after Andre Ward scored an eighth-round TKO over Sergey Kovalev, there were nothing but excuses coming from Team Kovalev. Maybe there were a few punches that drifted below the belt during that final onslaught that caused referee Tony Weeks to stop the fight. But it’s not Ward’s job to stop the action. And, to be completely honest, those questionable punches aren’t what began the demise of Kovalev. It was a right hand that landed clean that put the Russian on shaky legs and began his search for the exit row.

A right hand from Ward damaged Kovalev and put him in deep trouble. If nothing else, Kovalev’s body language was of a fighter who didn’t want to be there. S.O.G. sought the knockout and hunted his staggered prey. One can argue that the fight could have went longer... But it may have only delayed the inevitable. Furthermore, it’s not Ward’s job to stop the action.

Unfortunately, between Kathy Duva and Team Kovalev’s post-fight rant and the somewhat controversial finish, some will still not give Ward his due. There will be those who are critical of Ward’s performance and won’t give him his due because of what can be deemed as a controversial stoppage.

But THE RING magazine’s No. 1 pound-for-pound fighter in the world scored a knockout over the No. 2 pound-for-pound fighter. There are no questions. Ward is the best fighter alive at this very moment. Whether you like it or not.

We don’t know what the future holds for Ward. Maybe he squares off with Adonis Stevenson or bumps up another weight class. But, even then, it’s never going to be good enough for a few.

However, on June 17, 2017, Andre Ward stopped one of the most feared fighters in the world. He got the job done, again.

What’s our excuse for not appreciating his greatness now?


Thoughts? :confused:
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#1 and #2? Jeesus what be they smokin?
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That the stoppage was poor and that the fight was denied its natural conclusion. The refs missed a couple low shots and it's all messy really. After the first fight the last thing this needed was another fight that wasn't conclusive
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'The Ring' has been on a downward spiral for almost 10 years now. It started back in around 2007 when Golden Boy bought the magazine and took a turn for the worse about 5 years ago when editor Nigel Collins, along with several excellent writers, were let go. The new editor, Rosenthal, is a complete loser and a lot of the new writers they've had on and off the last few years seem like glorified bloggers.

Dan Rafael, who wrote the ESPN article, is another complete joke. There's a lot of bad things to say about him but I'll just say that he's very inconsistent and biased for starters.

This fight was anything but conclusive. Team Kovalev has every right to be upset and protest the worst stoppage I've seen in recent years.
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Look! Look! I found 2 articles that support my opinion!

You suck, fergus.
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Opinion has nothing to do with it. SOGgy is 2-0 v Krushedner.
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Tanzio wrote:Opinion has nothing to do with it. SOGgy is 2-0 v Krushedner.
It has everything to do with it. The first win was gifted by an opinion of 3 corrupt judges, and the second one by an opinion of a corrupt ref.
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I am not sure which round it was that Ward first strayed too far below. It may have been the 4th, his best until the 8th. Weeks gave Kovalev the requisite time to recover, which was about ten seconds. After six, I thought Kovalev was breaking Ward down. I've never seen Ward get hit as much as he has been in his fights with Kovalev. SOG was bleeding a good bit from his nose and mouth and I had Kovalev up 2 points which I thought was generously giving Ward the 1st. In the 7th Ward hit Kovalev low and both men looked at Weeks, but the ref was out of position and told them to resume fighting. At the end of the 7th Kovalev looked tired. A minute or so into the 8th Ward again hit Kovalev low. I thought Weeks was in position but he said nothing when Kovalev looked at him. Kovalev looked gassed. Ward abandoned the intense caution he had previously exhibited and tried to hit Kovalev as hard as he could. This was when Ward landed the leveraged head shot. He continued pursuing Kovalev and landed more telling shots on the reeling Russian. The story above is that the earlier low blows did not matter, it was the big head shots that did. It seems that body shots early in a fight are inconsequential. I disagree. Ward broke Kovalev down, and turned the fight around by hitting his opponent low. I counted six possibly low blows, three certainly. His body work paid off. Also, Kovalev finished on his feet. I think he should have been given time to recover because at least one of the final three body blows was low, but even if that were not the case why not give the Russian a standing 8 count?

My pick in both fights was Ward and one reason was that they were Roc Nation fights in Las Vegas. I don't think the first fight was as close as the sports media says. Like most people I think Kovalev got the better of Ward in November. This time was different obviously. Fighting is nasty by definition and if a fighter gets away with low blows he should not be blamed. Ward has often fought dirty in the past. Many ATGs were notably dirty fighters. Boxing is what it is and Ward has two wins over the best and most formidable opponent of his career. However, it looked like he got favorable treatment from the house again Saturday night. That's boxing, but do you think Andre Ward would agree to fight Dmitry Bivol in Ekatarinburg if Rybinsky offered him the biggest purse of his career to do so? Why not? Exactly. That being so, its hard to say Ward is PFP#1. That's just how it is. I don't have much sympathy for Kovalev's excuses. He got hit low a few times but he was in a fight he chose to fight. I don't have sympathy for Ward complaining because he is not more popular or respected enough either. He won but it didn't look good so get over it.
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boxing_rocks wrote:
Tanzio wrote:Opinion has nothing to do with it. SOGgy is 2-0 v Krushedner.
It has everything to do with it. The first win was gifted by an opinion of 3 corrupt judges, and the second one by an opinion of a corrupt ref.
The three judges got it right. The ref deprived us of the complete pulp grinding.

Krushedner just is not quite good enough to beat SOGgy. If they did it a third time it would be the end of Krushedners career. Of course, he may never recover from Saturday night's thrashing. If he does he has Weeks to thank.
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Those articles sound pretty solid to me. I like the way they point out that all Ward's low blows were beltline/borderline and not on the super-vulnerable genital region. The comparison some are making between Ward & Golota is ridiculous because Golota always aimed for the "cajones" when he fought Bowe and he was a barroom brawler in Poland.
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They were obviously low blows. Those two articles are ridiculous. They are applauding a conclusion that is a black-eye for the sport. Whatever credibility they had, RING has very little as of late, is lost here.

I wonder what would've happened if the ref called the low blow, deducted Ward a point because it was warranted. Ward got a hard-warning in a previous round about hitting low. Kovalev would've gotten 5 minutes to break, and the fight would've still been close with a 9-9 score for that round, instead of a 10-9.
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Is this moving toward Kovalev got ripped ... he didn't he got beat fair.
Got rough but he got beat fair.
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Evander wrote:Is this moving toward Kovalev got ripped ... he didn't he got beat fair.
Got rough but he got beat fair.
No, he really didn't. You're obviously not a boxing fan, though.
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Mexi-Box wrote:
Evander wrote:Is this moving toward Kovalev got ripped ... he didn't he got beat fair.
Got rough but he got beat fair.
No, he really didn't. You're obviously not a boxing fan, though.
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