Low blows in boxing

[littlepug]

Punch the guy back in the nuts, harder than he punched you...or just carry on fighting as if it didn't happen

You may lose a point if you low blow him back, but chances are he's gonna stop hitting low. The fighter should NEVER complain to the ref about low blows. Leave it to the ref to discover or for his cornerman to mention in between rounds. The fighter needs to be focused on 1 thing and 1 thing only, his opponent.

Fighting Fire with Fire works by the way.

A perfect example I can give you. Kostya Tszyu vs Ricky Hatton...throughout the fight Tszyu landed several "borderline" low blows that I'm sure didn't tickle. He got told to keep 'em up a few times, but never got any point deductions or anything, well finally after quite a few of those borderline shots had landed Hatton came forward, and hit him square in the balls as hard as he possibly could. Tszyu dropped to the canvas in pain, and took a few minutes to recover and continue with the fight....there were no more borderline low blows from him that night.

exactly this

[watsupdoc87]

Shorts too high always nowadays. Dick well below your bellybutton and balls even lower. Fighters using it as an excuse to often. Boxing becomes football soon all the playacting, fake low blows, hit on the bell and act for a KO ect. Pathetic

[boxing_rocks]

Shorts too high always nowadays. Dick well below your bellybutton and balls even lower. Fighters using it as an excuse to often. Boxing becomes football soon all the playacting, fake low blows, hit on the bell and act for a KO ect. Pathetic

Say for yourself. My dick is usually above my belly button

[greg]

Shorts too high always nowadays. Dick well below your bellybutton and balls even lower. Fighters using it as an excuse to often. Boxing becomes football soon all the playacting, fake low blows, hit on the bell and act for a KO ect. Pathetic

Say for yourself. My dick is usually above my belly button

is that because of watching boxing too much?

[Enlightened-One]

EO is a f*cking liar. You could see Kovalev's belly button above the belt, and you were already told that.

At no point during the bout was Sergey Kovalev’s navel visible.

[Enlightened-One]

Teach the ref what the rules are, or let indepentant people, like me for example decide after the match what should happen.

In Ward/Kovalev their case it should be disqualification for Ward and also a multibillion dollar fine.
Kovalev could have made a 100 children who could all have been boxing champions and make piles of millions each year. By blowing his balls out on purpose, this would be impossible, so by paying Kovalev like 5 or 6 billion as compensation for what he destroyed, Ward should be very lucky.
Also, Ward should be in prison for all those murders.


Oh and for Armageto:
http://boxrec.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f ... 5#p4690706
The belt obviously was below the navel, I hope you know what a navel is, and where it is located, otherwise, ask your mum please.

At no point during the bout was Sergey Kovalev’s navel visible.

[boxing_rocks]

Open your eyes, moron.

[Enlightened-One]

It's not a case of the referee failing to protect Sergey Kovalev.

The ref can't punish what he can't see. Ward knows how to conceal his old school tactics.

the clip of the final blow is all over the
board and you can clearly see that seconds
after the final low blow the referee enters
the frame from the left. which clearly means
he almost had the exact view point as the
camera. he was not far away, nor on the
wrong side of the exchange. this thing did
happen right in front of his eyes.

Tony Weeks has already admitted to not seeing the precise point of contact where Andre’s low blows connected. And the video replays appear to confirms this, since Kovalev was bent really low, meaning that the Russian’s body would have obstructed the refs viewpoint.

None of the Sky Sports analysts, during their live commentary could say for certain whether the low blows were illegal after watching the slow-motion replays from different angles... so the ref cannot be blamed for his mistake.

One brief animated GIF that only became accessible to the forum several hours after the bout cannot be considered as irrefutable proof that the ref was negligent in his duties.

The ref was compelled to make a very difficult decision to protect a man that was clearly failing to “protect himself at all times” for a prolonged period of time and he can only make his choice based on what he saw.

The benefit of hindsight is completely useless in the context of boxing.

[Mexi-Box]

You need to signal a referee, so that the low blow is registered. After recovery, punch the f*cker back into his nuts.

If you signal to the ref, though, idiots start talking shit and saying that you are ready to check out. I can't believe people are saying that Kovalev quit because he was signaling to the ref about the low blows.

[asdfjkl]

Teach the ref what the rules are, or let indepentant people, like me for example decide after the match what should happen.

In Ward/Kovalev their case it should be disqualification for Ward and also a multibillion dollar fine.
Kovalev could have made a 100 children who could all have been boxing champions and make piles of millions each year. By blowing his balls out on purpose, this would be impossible, so by paying Kovalev like 5 or 6 billion as compensation for what he destroyed, Ward should be very lucky.
Also, Ward should be in prison for all those murders.


Oh and for Armageto:
http://boxrec.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f ... 5#p4690706
The belt obviously was below the navel, I hope you know what a navel is, and where it is located, otherwise, ask your mum please.

At no point during the bout was Sergey Kovalev’s navel visible.

In the vid I showed you could see it from start of, when the ref started, it was visable.

[caldo2025]

Boxing should change the rules somewhat when it comes to body blows IMO. The first rule change that i would make is that boxers trunks should not be higher than the belly button. Then I would call a legal body blow as anything above the trunks. If you hit any of the boxers trunks then it's low and it's a warning or foul.

Right now, legal body blows are considered to be on the belt line or above and that's already vague in it's description. Not only is it vague but in turn boxers trunks are riding way to high as a result. If boxing keeps trunks below the naval and do not allow any portion of the trunks to be punched, problem solved. That would be way easier for ref's to make the correct calls.

[man]

It's not a case of the referee failing to protect Sergey Kovalev.

The ref can't punish what he can't see. Ward knows how to conceal his old school tactics.

the clip of the final blow is all over the
board and you can clearly see that seconds
after the final low blow the referee enters
the frame from the left. which clearly means
he almost had the exact view point as the
camera. he was not far away, nor on the
wrong side of the exchange. this thing did
happen right in front of his eyes.

Tony Weeks has already admitted to not seeing the precise point of contact where Andre’s low blows connected. And the video replays appear to confirms this, since Kovalev was bent really low, meaning that the Russian’s body would have obstructed the refs viewpoint.

None of the Sky Sports analysts, during their live commentary could say for certain whether the low blows were illegal after watching the slow-motion replays from different angles... so the ref cannot be blamed for his mistake.

the angle of the cam must have been
almost exactly the same as his view
point and he was two meters max away.

that none of the analysts couldn't tell
was simply due to the facht that this
precise footage was not shown, at least
that is the only explanation that i have.
but unlike them, who lacked that view
point, the ref had it, because he was
exactly standing there.

i do not see why you can be so sure that
the ref could not have been blamed. had
he been standing on the other side of the
two fighters. or behind one of them at that
moment, i would agree with you. but he
wasn't. he was standing right at the point
where it was at least borderline negligent
not to see what the camera showed so
clearly.

[Tanzio]

the clip of the final blow is all over the
board and you can clearly see that seconds
after the final low blow the referee enters
the frame from the left. which clearly means
he almost had the exact view point as the
camera. he was not far away, nor on the
wrong side of the exchange. this thing did
happen right in front of his eyes.

Tony Weeks has already admitted to not seeing the precise point of contact where Andre’s low blows connected. And the video replays appear to confirms this, since Kovalev was bent really low, meaning that the Russian’s body would have obstructed the refs viewpoint.

None of the Sky Sports analysts, during their live commentary could say for certain whether the low blows were illegal after watching the slow-motion replays from different angles... so the ref cannot be blamed for his mistake.

the angle of the cam must have been
almost exactly the same as his view
point and he was two meters max away.

that none of the analysts couldn't tell
was simply due to the facht that this
precise footage was not shown, at least
that is the only explanation that i have.
but unlike them, who lacked that view
point, the ref had it, because he was
exactly standing there.

i do not see why you can be so sure that
the ref could not have been blamed. had
he been standing on the other side of the
two fighters. or behind one of them at that
moment, i would agree with you. but he
wasn't. he was standing right at the point
where it was at least borderline negligent
not to see what the camera showed so
clearly.

I blame Weeks for cheating SOGgy out of the full metal beatdown, and the deafening silence it would have caused in the squealing piggy camp.

[greg]

the clip of the final blow is all over the
board and you can clearly see that seconds
after the final low blow the referee enters
the frame from the left. which clearly means
he almost had the exact view point as the
camera. he was not far away, nor on the
wrong side of the exchange. this thing did
happen right in front of his eyes.

Tony Weeks has already admitted to not seeing the precise point of contact where Andre’s low blows connected. And the video replays appear to confirms this, since Kovalev was bent really low, meaning that the Russian’s body would have obstructed the refs viewpoint.

None of the Sky Sports analysts, during their live commentary could say for certain whether the low blows were illegal after watching the slow-motion replays from different angles... so the ref cannot be blamed for his mistake.

the angle of the cam must have been
almost exactly the same as his view
point and he was two meters max away.

that none of the analysts couldn't tell
was simply due to the facht that this
precise footage was not shown, at least
that is the only explanation that i have.
but unlike them, who lacked that view
point, the ref had it, because he was
exactly standing there.

i do not see why you can be so sure that
the ref could not have been blamed. had
he been standing on the other side of the
two fighters. or behind one of them at that
moment, i would agree with you. but he
wasn't. he was standing right at the point
where it was at least borderline negligent
not to see what the camera showed so
clearly.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7NswZrI30nw

[Tanzio]

Tony Weeks has already admitted to not seeing the precise point of contact where Andre’s low blows connected. And the video replays appear to confirms this, since Kovalev was bent really low, meaning that the Russian’s body would have obstructed the refs viewpoint.

None of the Sky Sports analysts, during their live commentary could say for certain whether the low blows were illegal after watching the slow-motion replays from different angles... so the ref cannot be blamed for his mistake.

the angle of the cam must have been
almost exactly the same as his view
point and he was two meters max away.

that none of the analysts couldn't tell
was simply due to the facht that this
precise footage was not shown, at least
that is the only explanation that i have.
but unlike them, who lacked that view
point, the ref had it, because he was
exactly standing there.

i do not see why you can be so sure that
the ref could not have been blamed. had
he been standing on the other side of the
two fighters. or behind one of them at that
moment, i would agree with you. but he
wasn't. he was standing right at the point
where it was at least borderline negligent
not to see what the camera showed so
clearly.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7NswZrI30nw

Of course, nobody is going to bother to post the low blows Krushedner landed during the fight, including a very low full fledged blow in the 7th. Why is that? Because SOGgy did not stop fighting like the tough talking Russian did repeatedly when hit on the beltline.

If SOGgy was that dirty of a fighter he could have blown Krushedner out of there on more than one of those times that the Russian played like the boxing version of a pro soccer player in order to attempt to draw a point deduction. Meanwhile, Krushedner spent the whole fight landing on the back of SOGgy's head. If Weeks was trying to throw the fight then he could have warned and penalized Krushedner for those shots. To his credit he did not overreact.

Krushedner is to blame for the stoppage given his repeated dramatics while stopping fighting and defending himself. Simple boy who cried wolf scenario.

It sucks because SOGgy was on the way to full on obliterating the bully sh!t talker.

[man]

Of course, nobody is going to bother to post the low blows Krushedner landed during the fight, including a very low full fledged blow in the 7th. Why is that?

because none of them ended the fight.

[caldo2025]

Boxing needs to flush the toilets on it's current stable of referees and get some new blood in there with younger, sharper, more fit refs. Look at how the UFC does it. The refs are younger and in just as good of shape as the fighters in the ring. There's a reason why there's never any controversy after big UFC fights for fouls or low blows, bad stoppages...etc. Boxing puts 65 and 70 year old men in there and get mad when they miss some action.

[Ricky_]

Boxing needs to flush the toilets on it's current stable of referees and get some new blood in there with younger, sharper, more fit refs. Look at how the UFC does it. The refs are younger and in just as good of shape as the fighters in the ring. There's a reason why there's never any controversy after big UFC fights for fouls or low blows, bad stoppages...etc. Boxing puts 65 and 70 year old men in there and get mad when they miss some action.

Good point. I get the impression UFC refs are probably gym rats and amatuer mma guys, so they have a great sense of what's going down. Some of these old farts in boxing are just too slow to get involved. I remember a Arce fight vs Rojas where it ended up an NC. Arce hit this guy with a combo of 3 illegal shots, i think it might have been a low blow followed up with shots to the back of the head. Bayless was just too slow to break it in time. I think somethin similar happened with Smoger recently too.

[BitPlayer]

Of course, nobody is going to bother to post the low blows Krushedner landed during the fight, including a very low full fledged blow in the 7th. Why is that?

because none of them ended the fight.

Yeah because Ward didn't ham it up and keep stopping fighting.

[littlepug]

rewatched Crawford v gamboa last night, it was quite refreshing to see Crawford showing literally no emotion or reaction every time he was fouled by gamboa, that's how it should be done

[Tanzio]

Of course, nobody is going to bother to post the low blows Krushedner landed during the fight, including a very low full fledged blow in the 7th. Why is that?

because none of them ended the fight.

A punch didn't end this fight. Weeks ended the fight based on his opinion that Krushedner was not willing to continue, given the Russian's repeated theatrics over the last couple of rounds whenever touched on the beltline.

Krushedner is responsible for Week's decision. The Russian should be thanking the ref for obliging his wishes. I feel cheated by Week's decision and Krushedner's effeminate theatrics leading up to it.

[Ricky_]

Of course, nobody is going to bother to post the low blows Krushedner landed during the fight, including a very low full fledged blow in the 7th. Why is that?

because none of them ended the fight.

A punch didn't end this fight. Weeks ended the fight based on his opinion that Krushedner was not willing to continue, given the Russian's repeated theatrics over the last couple of rounds whenever touched on the beltline.

Krushedner is responsible for Week's decision. The Russian should be thanking the ref for obliging his wishes. I feel cheated by Week's decision and Krushedner's effeminate theatrics leading up to it.

Weeks stopped it because Ward hit Kovalev with 3 unanswered shots. The fact they were illegal makes all the difference. Weeks pisspoor refereeing perhaps did rob Ward of a great stoppage - therefore all boxing fans should be enraged at his woeful stopping of this fight as a contest.

[Tanzio]

because none of them ended the fight.

A punch didn't end this fight. Weeks ended the fight based on his opinion that Krushedner was not willing to continue, given the Russian's repeated theatrics over the last couple of rounds whenever touched on the beltline.

Krushedner is responsible for Week's decision. The Russian should be thanking the ref for obliging his wishes. I feel cheated by Week's decision and Krushedner's effeminate theatrics leading up to it.

Weeks stopped it because Ward hit Kovalev with 3 unanswered shots. The fact they were illegal makes all the difference. Weeks pisspoor refereeing perhaps did rob Ward of a great stoppage - therefore all boxing fans should be enraged at his woeful stopping of this fight as a contest.

I am enraged. Weeks screwed me out of a perfect pick.

All three of the final body shots were not low. One was. Krushedner had been playing the FIFA style "I've been murdered" act all night. Weeks got fooled or he just had enough of Krushedner's pitifuly effeminate dramatics.

How many times did Krushedner literally turn his back on SOGgy? How many times did he act like he had been shot from a punch on the beltline? How many times did he hit SOGgy low and he just kept fighting? How many times did Krushedner rabbit punch? How many times did he hold and head lock?

I can't believe that you squealers aren't directing your vitriol at Krushedner. He fought like a sissy.

[Ricky_]

A punch didn't end this fight. Weeks ended the fight based on his opinion that Krushedner was not willing to continue, given the Russian's repeated theatrics over the last couple of rounds whenever touched on the beltline.

Krushedner is responsible for Week's decision. The Russian should be thanking the ref for obliging his wishes. I feel cheated by Week's decision and Krushedner's effeminate theatrics leading up to it.

Weeks stopped it because Ward hit Kovalev with 3 unanswered shots. The fact they were illegal makes all the difference. Weeks pisspoor refereeing perhaps did rob Ward of a great stoppage - therefore all boxing fans should be enraged at his woeful stopping of this fight as a contest.

I am enraged. Weeks screwed me out of a perfect pick.

All three of the final body shots were not low. One was. Krushedner had been playing the FIFA style "I've been murdered" act all night. Weeks got fooled or he just had enough of Krushedner's pitifuly effeminate dramatics.

How many times did Krushedner literally turn his back on SOGgy? How many times did he act like he had been shot from a punch on the beltline? How many times did he hit SOGgy low and he just kept fighting? How many times did Krushedner rabbit punch? How many times did he hold and head lock?

I can't believe that you squealers aren't directing your vitriol at Krushedner. He fought like a sissy.

The 2nd of the final 3 shots was the lowest and most vicious. If there was ever a shot that required the 5-minute foul recovery, it was that. Instead Weeks let Ward ram home another brutal low blow then waved it off.

The finish was 100% illegitimate.

[Tanzio]

Weeks stopped it because Ward hit Kovalev with 3 unanswered shots. The fact they were illegal makes all the difference. Weeks pisspoor refereeing perhaps did rob Ward of a great stoppage - therefore all boxing fans should be enraged at his woeful stopping of this fight as a contest.

I am enraged. Weeks screwed me out of a perfect pick.

All three of the final body shots were not low. One was. Krushedner had been playing the FIFA style "I've been murdered" act all night. Weeks got fooled or he just had enough of Krushedner's pitifuly effeminate dramatics.

How many times did Krushedner literally turn his back on SOGgy? How many times did he act like he had been shot from a punch on the beltline? How many times did he hit SOGgy low and he just kept fighting? How many times did Krushedner rabbit punch? How many times did he hold and head lock?

I can't believe that you squealers aren't directing your vitriol at Krushedner. He fought like a sissy.

The 2nd of the final 3 shots was the lowest and most vicious. If there was ever a shot that required the 5-minute foul recovery, it was that. Instead Weeks let Ward ram home another brutal low blow then waved it off.

The finish was 100% illegitimate.

I hated the finish at the time. I am loving every minute of it now.

I hope they do it once more so you collection of squealers can be put through the final beatdown.