Excellent blow by blow analysis of the Weeks and Ward vs. Kovalev fight

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Re: Excellent blow by blow analysis of the Weeks and Ward vs. Kovalev fight

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x2x wrote:Why are you deliberately misspelling Krusher Kovalev's name, Tanzio? Is that what they suggest you do in the Troll's Handbook?
:lol: He was anointed Krushedner ten days ago, just as I anointed Andre SOG Ward to be SOGgy a few years ago. Then of course there are Lomassiah, 3G, Once Upon A Time, Hitman Jr, GTank, GingerHead, Buttheadbean, crowbar, SweetSkinny, Caldoh, turB, No-Light-On, Fat Twit, TRex Jr, and a few that I don't recall at the moment.

Oh, and my latest (a Counter-Puncher favorite) Jabba the Pizza Slut.

Any other questions, Peanuts?
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Re: Excellent blow by blow analysis of the Weeks and Ward vs. Kovalev fight

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Tanzio wrote:
caldo2025 wrote:
Tanzio wrote: The first fight was razor thin. I scored it 114-113 SOGgy realtime and I was hoping for a Krushedner KO / victory. Krushedner has only himself to blame for that being so close. I would have had no problem with a close Krushedner verdict but those who think that the first fight was clear cut are deluding themselves, "and no one can tell me otherwise."
The reason that i'm so adamant about that opinion is that mathematically, I don't see how it could have been possible. Kovalev only needed to win 5 rounds for the draw because of that knockdown. Heck, i had him doing that already by the 7th round. But the rounds were so close in the second half of the fight and Ward won 17 out of 18 of those judgements? No way. Uh uh.

Not saying judging was crooked exactly but I think psychologically, the early knockdown really helped Ward with those judges. The judges knew that put Ward in a tough position in terms of points so i think that it skewed the way they scored the rest of the fight. They weren't going to give Kovalev any close rounds unless they were obvious. Ward was going to get all of the close ones. Instead of scoring each round independently from the others, I feel that they were looking too much at the total picture of the fight. Can't do that.
Fair enough, but I disagree. There were quite a few close rounds in the first seven too, just as there were last week. I pretty much split the close rounds in the first fight. If I gave either fighter every single close round I would have had it 116-111 Krushedner or 117-111 SOGgy.

Therefore, in my opinion, it was the definition of razor close. Scoring it realtime, I had it 114-113 SOGgy. Again, I was rooting for Krushedner. If I had flip flopped one of the close rounds it would have been 114-113 Krushedner. If I had scored every close round 10-10 it would have been 117-116 SOGgy. If I had scored one close round 10-10 it would have been 114-114.

It was razor close.

I have watched the second fight three times now, while watching the 7th and 8th very closely probably ten times. On the third complete watching I chose to give Krushedner every possible benefit of the doubt. Being completely biased, the best score I could come up with for Krushedner is 69-67 going into the eighth. The first, realtime score I had was 67-66 Krushedner going into the eighth. The second viewing I had it 67-66 SOGgy.

The difference this time is Krushedner had decided to act his way out of the fight in no later than the seventh. Furthermore, Krushedner landed the most egregious low blow of the fight in the eighth. Again, the difference being SOGgy walked through it to win the fight while Krushedner did his best war movie, "I've been shot :oo" act.
If you removed the knockdown from the first one and still didn't give it to Kovalev I still would have thought Kovalev got robbed. I'd understand a draw without the knockdown at worse and that's pretty much trying to find a way to give it to Ward.

In the second, I thought that the rounds were EASY to score and felt the same way that Lederman did. You can win a round retreating the whole time with effective combinations like SRL used to do but that's not what we saw here. Kovalev clearly won 5 of the 7 rounds easily to me and dictated the pace and action. Ward did nothing but retreat and cause lulls in the action with excessive holding. I thought it was so obvious.

But your last point is really all that matters and what the fans still crying about low blows can't admit. Kovalev was looking for a way to make it all stop for a little while. He needed those 5 minutes badly so he was planning on hamming it up with any body shot. I knew at one point in the 5th I believe that Kovalev was done when he tripped in the middle of the ring over nothing. He looked down and pretended it was something he tripped over but he was acting again. Gassed. All done.
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Re: Excellent blow by blow analysis of the Weeks and Ward vs. Kovalev fight

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Tanzio wrote:
x2x wrote:Why are you deliberately misspelling Krusher Kovalev's name, Tanzio? Is that what they suggest you do in the Troll's Handbook?
:lol: He was anointed Krushedner ten days ago, just as I anointed Andre SOG Ward to be SOGgy a few years ago. Then of course there are Lomassiah, 3G, Once Upon A Time, Hitman Jr, GTank, GingerHead, Buttheadbean, crowbar, SweetSkinny, Caldoh, turB, No-Light-On, Fat Twit, TRex Jr, and a few that I don't recall at the moment.

Oh, and my latest (a Counter-Puncher favorite) Jabba the Pizza Slut.

Any other questions, Peanuts?

No other questions, Tanzero. I'm sorry I asked. And now you have been annoited too!
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Re: Excellent blow by blow analysis of the Weeks and Ward vs. Kovalev fight

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No wait! I thought of a better one: Trollzio!
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Re: Excellent blow by blow analysis of the Weeks and Ward vs. Kovalev fight

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x2x wrote:No wait! I thought of a better one: Trollzio!
Both not bad :clap: Tanzero is superior I think. More creative.
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Re: Excellent blow by blow analysis of the Weeks and Ward vs. Kovalev fight

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Tanzio wrote:
x2x wrote:No wait! I thought of a better one: Trollzio!
Both not bad :clap: Tanzero is superior I think. More creative.

Ha ha the guy can take a joke though, so I guess he's not all bad!
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