Is Tyson Fury the most skillful active HW ?

[Tanzio]

I might be stupid, but this tread is not stupid.
I am not sure that it is wise to consider irrelevant fighter who had defeated the best HW of the last decade.

Boxer X has been invincible almost ten years. He hes to be a relevant one.
Boxer Y defeated Boxer X.
Boxer Y is irrelevant ?
Basic logic ?

Basic logic? Here is mine. Fury beat Wlad in the worst championship fight of all time as far as total punches landed. He beat Wlad mainly with feints to keep Wlad from throwing. It worked. Wlad obviously wasn't himself. Remember, Wlad reigned a long time, but is over 40, and at the end of his career. Its not like Fury beat a prime Wlad. By the way, the version of Wlad that lost to Joshua would have KO'd Fury imo.

Fury is irrelevant because he is not active, a pathetic excuse for a human being in more ways than one, and said himself he hates boxing and it is a disgrace for others to call him an athlete. It is a disgrace to mention him on a forum because of the things he has said and how he has talked about boxing.

My two cents.

Tazio is right about his eating skills though. He should get into eating contests now, and forget about boxing.

Badhusker, answer this question, frankly, please - Do you agree with me that Tyson Fury is capable to attract thousands and thousands new boxing fans ?

Pardon my interruption, but, Jabba the Pizza Slut would draw thousands and thousands of fans to a pie eating or coke snorting contest.

[ValMar]

Basic logic? Here is mine. Fury beat Wlad in the worst championship fight of all time as far as total punches landed. He beat Wlad mainly with feints to keep Wlad from throwing. It worked. Wlad obviously wasn't himself. Remember, Wlad reigned a long time, but is over 40, and at the end of his career. Its not like Fury beat a prime Wlad. By the way, the version of Wlad that lost to Joshua would have KO'd Fury imo.

Fury is irrelevant because he is not active, a pathetic excuse for a human being in more ways than one, and said himself he hates boxing and it is a disgrace for others to call him an athlete. It is a disgrace to mention him on a forum because of the things he has said and how he has talked about boxing.

My two cents.

Tazio is right about his eating skills though. He should get into eating contests now, and forget about boxing.

Badhusker, answer this question, frankly, please - Do you agree with me that Tyson Fury is capable to attract thousands and thousands new boxing fans ?

Pardon my interruption, but, Jabba the Pizza Slut would draw thousands and thousands of fans to a pie eating or coke snorting contest.

Tanzio, I will try to be serious. There are at least fifteen of my friends and colleagues who are not boxing fans at all, but they have been asking me about Tyson Fury. Like him or despise him, he is a very recognizable and interesting person, and right now he is among top five most popular boxer's list in my enviroment, and I have to remind you that I live in the country (and in the region) where boxing is practically dead sport.

[SaadOffTheDeck]

None of my friends, and 20 or 30 used to be big boxing fans, have ever heard of Tyson fury.

[ValMar]

None of my friends, and 20 or 30 used to be big boxing fans, have ever heard of Tyson fury.

It is very strange ? I suppose you are American ? Tell me , please who are the most popular European boxers among your friends.
Boxing fans who did not watch HW championship fight ? Do you know any tennis fans who would omit to watch Wimbledon ?

[SaadOffTheDeck]

None of my friends, and 20 or 30 used to be big boxing fans, have ever heard of Tyson fury.

It is very strange ? I suppose you are American ? Tell me , please who are the most popular European boxers among your friends.
Boxing fans who did not watch HW championship fight ? Do you know any tennis fans who would omit to watch Wimbledon ?

Yes, I'm American. We weren't talking about fans. They used to be. Only a handful of heavyweight title fights have been televised here in recent years. More Americans watched Crawford/Diaz than Joshua/Klitschko. I keep telling you, it's not a big sport here.

[ValMar]

None of my friends, and 20 or 30 used to be big boxing fans, have ever heard of Tyson fury.

It is very strange ? I suppose you are American ? Tell me , please who are the most popular European boxers among your friends.
Boxing fans who did not watch HW championship fight ? Do you know any tennis fans who would omit to watch Wimbledon ?

Yes, I'm American. We weren't talking about fans. They used to be. Only a handful of heavyweight title fights have been televised here in recent years. More Americans watched Crawford/Diaz than Joshua/Klitschko. I keep telling you, it's not a big sport here.

I am upset. OMG ! Ali ? Foreman ? Frazier ? Holyfield ? Tyson ? I can not believe ! So rich and mighty country with an extremely strong boxing tradition. As a child I had been sleepless the nights and nights waiting for HW fights from America (believe it or not, we could watch these fights without paying, absolutely free).
It seems that only UK and some Eastern European countries are capable to save this sport.
BTW, Crawford is totally unknown by my friends/colleagues. Some of them know for Wilder, but all of them know Joshua and Fury, and Klitschko brothers, of course........

[SaadOffTheDeck]

Nobody here knows Crawford either, it was just live at night on HBO. I'm interested to see how ESPN does here. After the pbc failure, maybe they can help. It will never be huge again though.

[Ossyrules]

Badhusker, answer this question, frankly, please - Do you agree with me that Tyson Fury is capable to attract thousands and thousands new boxing fans ?

Pardon my interruption, but, Jabba the Pizza Slut would draw thousands and thousands of fans to a pie eating or coke snorting contest.

Tanzio, I will try to be serious. There are at least fifteen of my friends and colleagues who are not boxing fans at all, but they have been asking me about Tyson Fury. Like him or despise him, he is a very recognizable and interesting person, and right now he is among top five most popular boxer's list in my enviroment, and I have to remind you that I live in the country (and in the region) where boxing is practically dead sport.

Valmar forget about tanzio I'd say based on his posts on this thread

[ValMar]

Pardon my interruption, but, Jabba the Pizza Slut would draw thousands and thousands of fans to a pie eating or coke snorting contest.

Tanzio, I will try to be serious. There are at least fifteen of my friends and colleagues who are not boxing fans at all, but they have been asking me about Tyson Fury. Like him or despise him, he is a very recognizable and interesting person, and right now he is among top five most popular boxer's list in my enviroment, and I have to remind you that I live in the country (and in the region) where boxing is practically dead sport.

Valmar forget about tanzio I'd say based on his posts on this thread

I did not intend to cause this kind of discussion, I wanted to make a topic concerning the most skillful current HW fighters. Something has gone in the wrong direction...............

[Ossyrules]

Tanzio, I will try to be serious. There are at least fifteen of my friends and colleagues who are not boxing fans at all, but they have been asking me about Tyson Fury. Like him or despise him, he is a very recognizable and interesting person, and right now he is among top five most popular boxer's list in my enviroment, and I have to remind you that I live in the country (and in the region) where boxing is practically dead sport.

Valmar forget about tanzio I'd say based on his posts on this thread

I did not intend to cause this kind of discussion, I wanted to make a topic concerning the most skillful current HW fighters. Something has gone in the wrong direction...............

Some people agree, some people disagree, some unfortunately just troll and disrail things

[ValMar]

Valmar forget about tanzio I'd say based on his posts on this thread

I did not intend to cause this kind of discussion, I wanted to make a topic concerning the most skillful current HW fighters. Something has gone in the wrong direction...............

Some people agree, some people disagree, some unfortunately just troll and disrail things

Yes ! Sad but true.

[Kalan]

Is Tyson Fury the most skillful active HW ?

There are probably other heavyweight fighters that are more fundamentally sound/skilled than Tyson Fury, such as Lenroy Thomas and Hughie Fury. I’m solely referring to skills alone (i.e. none the other attributes that contributes to a boxers make-up).

However, those fighters that possess superior boxing skills than Tyson Fury are usually too small, lack conditioning, can’t punch, lack durability or are simply too old.

So Tyson Fury isn’t the most skilful currently active heavyweight on the planet, but when he’s in shape and competing, he’s probably the top-dog of the division, where his size, natural athleticism and boxing skills are far superior than his world-rated peers.

Hughie Fury has no jab.. He's pretty pathetic right now as far as boxing skills.. And Lenroy Thomas??? You've got to be kidding. He sucks doorknob.

The most skillful Heavyweight right now is Luis Ortiz.. I don't think he beats Joshua anymore, but I fear we won't get a chance to find out in the next year or so... I hate to say this, but Tyson Fury might be next in skills. He's just totally screwed up as a human being... Joshua I would say is the top Heavyweight, but 3rd in skills right now... Then probably Wladimir is 4th... Povetkin 5th... Haye 6th... Wilder 7th... Whyte 8th... Ruiz 9th...Takam 10th

[Tanzio]

Badhusker, answer this question, frankly, please - Do you agree with me that Tyson Fury is capable to attract thousands and thousands new boxing fans ?

Pardon my interruption, but, Jabba the Pizza Slut would draw thousands and thousands of fans to a pie eating or coke snorting contest.

Tanzio, I will try to be serious. There are at least fifteen of my friends and colleagues who are not boxing fans at all, but they have been asking me about Tyson Fury. Like him or despise him, he is a very recognizable and interesting person, and right now he is among top five most popular boxer's list in my enviroment, and I have to remind you that I live in the country (and in the region) where boxing is practically dead sport.

Seriously, short of a fan intervention, I don't know why Jabba is still in the HW conversation. I was a relatively big fan and one of the few who gave him an outside chance v Wlad but he has humiliated himself publically over and over, and he shows no serious signs of returning.

He should be removed from any conversation about active HWs, imo. If he legitimately gets his sh!t together and gets back in the ring I will watch.

What is hilarious to me is the grief some people give boxers like Lomassiah for not fighting a good enough opponent every time out, while they simultaneously give Jabba essentially a lifetime pass. The dude is an embarrassment to the sport and himself. He is kind of like boxing's Trump. But at least Trump goes to work every day.

[Tanzio]

Valmar forget about tanzio I'd say based on his posts on this thread

I did not intend to cause this kind of discussion, I wanted to make a topic concerning the most skillful current HW fighters. Something has gone in the wrong direction...............

Some people agree, some people disagree, some unfortunately just troll and disrail things

Holding the Pizza Slut up for the loser he has become is far better than acting like he is a factor in the HW division at the moment. Maybe if more people would stop coddling his big, dumb, lazy ass he might get off of it and legitimately get to work.

Until then he belongs in pie eating and coke snorting contests, not in conversations about legitimate active HWs.

[Ossyrules]

I did not intend to cause this kind of discussion, I wanted to make a topic concerning the most skillful current HW fighters. Something has gone in the wrong direction...............

Some people agree, some people disagree, some unfortunately just troll and disrail things

Holding the Pizza Slut up for the loser he has become is far better than acting like he is a factor in the HW division at the moment. Maybe if more people would stop coddling his big, dumb, lazy ass he might get off of it and legitimately get to work.

Until then he belongs in pie eating and coke snorting contests, not in conversations about legitimate active HWs.

I'm no fury fan boy, but your posts are literally pointless, contribute nothing towards discussion good or bad, are are basic trolling just padding out a thread with shite

[crusader]

These days Tanzio seems to post mainly so he can use all those nicknames he's proud of.

[Badhusker]

I might be stupid, but this tread is not stupid.
I am not sure that it is wise to consider irrelevant fighter who had defeated the best HW of the last decade.

Boxer X has been invincible almost ten years. He hes to be a relevant one.
Boxer Y defeated Boxer X.
Boxer Y is irrelevant ?
Basic logic ?

Basic logic? Here is mine. Fury beat Wlad in the worst championship fight of all time as far as total punches landed. He beat Wlad mainly with feints to keep Wlad from throwing. It worked. Wlad obviously wasn't himself. Remember, Wlad reigned a long time, but is over 40, and at the end of his career. Its not like Fury beat a prime Wlad. By the way, the version of Wlad that lost to Joshua would have KO'd Fury imo.

Fury is irrelevant because he is not active, a pathetic excuse for a human being in more ways than one, and said himself he hates boxing and it is a disgrace for others to call him an athlete. It is a disgrace to mention him on a forum because of the things he has said and how he has talked about boxing.

My two cents.

Tazio is right about his eating skills though. He should get into eating contests now, and forget about boxing.

Badhusker, answer this question, frankly, please - Do you agree with me that Tyson Fury is capable to attract thousands and thousands new boxing fans ?

Frankly, Fury could attract a lot of new fans if he gets his act together, but the kind of fans he attracts are not good for the sport. He would help sell tickets to people that want very badly to see him lose, want to hear what stupid, vulgar, pathetic thing he has to say. He won't get any respect though. Kind of like Floyd in his later years was all about money instead of competing in a sport he loves. People to this day, even though he is 40, want him to lose so fornicating bad....say he is afraid to fight this guy or that guy. The villian is often as big a part of selling tickets, but it also puts the sport in a bad light too. Money drives everything though, so pieces of shitt like Fury will probably continue to make his.

[Tanzio]

These days Tanzio seems to post mainly so he can use all those nicknames he's proud of.

I suppose the dude who has a file on every post I have ever made would know.

[Tanzio]

Some people agree, some people disagree, some unfortunately just troll and disrail things

Holding the Pizza Slut up for the loser he has become is far better than acting like he is a factor in the HW division at the moment. Maybe if more people would stop coddling his big, dumb, lazy ass he might get off of it and legitimately get to work.

Until then he belongs in pie eating and coke snorting contests, not in conversations about legitimate active HWs.

I'm no fury fan boy, but your posts are literally pointless, contribute nothing towards discussion good or bad, are are basic trolling just padding out a thread with shite

Discussion on whether Jabba is the most skilled active HW? He is not active therefore he can't be the most skilled.

End of pointless discussion.

[Ossyrules]

Holding the Pizza Slut up for the loser he has become is far better than acting like he is a factor in the HW division at the moment. Maybe if more people would stop coddling his big, dumb, lazy ass he might get off of it and legitimately get to work.

Until then he belongs in pie eating and coke snorting contests, not in conversations about legitimate active HWs.

I'm no fury fan boy, but your posts are literally pointless, contribute nothing towards discussion good or bad, are are basic trolling just padding out a thread with shite

Discussion on whether Jabba is the most skilled active HW? He is not active therefore he can't be the most skilled.

End of pointless discussion.

Thanks for coming

[ValMar]

Holding the Pizza Slut up for the loser he has become is far better than acting like he is a factor in the HW division at the moment. Maybe if more people would stop coddling his big, dumb, lazy ass he might get off of it and legitimately get to work.

Until then he belongs in pie eating and coke snorting contests, not in conversations about legitimate active HWs.

I'm no fury fan boy, but your posts are literally pointless, contribute nothing towards discussion good or bad, are are basic trolling just padding out a thread with shite

Discussion on whether Jabba is the most skilled active HW? He is not active therefore he can't be the most skilled.

End of pointless discussion.

You suppose that TF forgot everything he knew about boxing since he had faced Wlad ?

[Tanzio]

I'm no fury fan boy, but your posts are literally pointless, contribute nothing towards discussion good or bad, are are basic trolling just padding out a thread with shite

Discussion on whether Jabba is the most skilled active HW? He is not active therefore he can't be the most skilled.

End of pointless discussion.

You suppose that TF forgot everything he knew about boxing since he had faced Wlad ?

I thought that you wanted me out of this conversation?

The Pizza Slut is not active. Therefore, he cannot be considered the most skilled active HW, ValMar. He has become a fat slimey, drug addicted, drunken, bigoted, giant piece of feces.

Sorry if that hurts your feelings, ValMar, but the truth is the truth.

[ValMar]

Discussion on whether Jabba is the most skilled active HW? He is not active therefore he can't be the most skilled.

End of pointless discussion.

You suppose that TF forgot everything he knew about boxing since he had faced Wlad ?

I thought that you wanted me out of this conversation?

The Pizza Slut is not active. Therefore, he cannot be considered the most skilled active HW, ValMar. He has become a fat slimey, drug addicted, drunken, bigoted, giant piece of feces.

Sorry if that hurts your feelings, ValMar, but the truth is the truth.

Out of this conversation ? Why ?
You have your opinion, I have mine, and that's it. Nothing personally.
By the way, I am not TF's fan, but I have to be honest and I can recognize his skills and his popularity, he has become something like "beloved fool".

[gilgamesh]

You suppose that TF forgot everything he knew about boxing since he had faced Wlad ?

I thought that you wanted me out of this conversation?

The Pizza Slut is not active. Therefore, he cannot be considered the most skilled active HW, ValMar. He has become a fat slimey, drug addicted, drunken, bigoted, giant piece of feces.

Sorry if that hurts your feelings, ValMar, but the truth is the truth.

Out of this conversation ? Why ?
You have your opinion, I have mine, and that's it. Nothing personally.
By the way, I am not TF's fan, but I have to be honest and I can recognize his skills and his popularity, he has become something like "beloved fool".

He's not beloved. I hate the motherf*cker.

He ain't the most skilled either. He's a fat, lazy, sack of sh*t that could've been a decent Heavyweight, instead he's gonna go down as one of the worst Heavyweight Champions in the sports history. If you're talking Lineal Champions as opposed to just guys that had belts, he is the worst.