This is the reason why i have my own fantasy

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Jip
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This is the reason why i have my own fantasy

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Because in my judging there is nothing but clarity and honesty. And yes, fair play and rules are essential and fully applied in my mind. This is not street fighting, greco roman wrestling or WWE, this is boxing. So fu×#"&k everybody who doesnt respect that like direll, ward, wlad or floyd. I am happy knowing all those guys will be quick out of boxing.

Kovalev DQ win over Ward
Pacquiao UD win over Horn
Easter SD win over Sharikov

See how easy it is. Something being official means nothing. Judges can lie, commentary can lie, refs can lie. But what has a very hard time lying is the feeling that you get when you watch something with your very own eyes.
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Imagine hoe stupid a p4p list would look like if wed go by official results.

1. Ward
2. Crawford
3. GGG
4. Lomachenko
5. Canelo
6. Wangek
7. Kovalev
8. Thurman
9. Joshua
10. Horn

Aint that a stupid list. A cheater as a p4p king and a c level boxer like horn making the top 10 by beating a legend when he barly won a clear round. On top wangek who many believe lost to gonzales.
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Jip wrote:Imagine hoe stupid a p4p list would look like if wed go by official results.

1. Ward
2. Crawford
3. GGG
4. Lomachenko
5. Canelo
6. Wangek
7. Kovalev
8. Thurman
9. Joshua
10. Horn

Aint that a stupid list. A cheater as a p4p king and a c level boxer like horn making the top 10 by beating a legend when he barly won a clear round. On top wangek who many believe lost to gonzales.
I go by the official results for the most part (I briefly had Kovalev ahead of Ward following their first fight, but now have Ward at #1). Pacquiao dropped from my Top 10...to be honest that probably would've been the case even if he'd gotten the decision tonight. P4P Top 10 fighters don't struggle like that with the Jeff Horn's of the world.

Jeff Horn did not join my P4P Top 10. He didn't join my Top 5 at Welterweight either. I had Manny at #3 prior to this fight at Welterweight. I now have him #7, Jeff Horn is #6.
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gilgamesh wrote:
Jip wrote:Imagine hoe stupid a p4p list would look like if wed go by official results.

1. Ward
2. Crawford
3. GGG
4. Lomachenko
5. Canelo
6. Wangek
7. Kovalev
8. Thurman
9. Joshua
10. Horn

Aint that a stupid list. A cheater as a p4p king and a c level boxer like horn making the top 10 by beating a legend when he barly won a clear round. On top wangek who many believe lost to gonzales.
I go by the official results for the most part (I briefly had Kovalev ahead of Ward following their first fight, but now have Ward at #1). Pacquiao dropped from my Top 10...to be honest that probably would've been the case even if he'd gotten the decision tonight. P4P Top 10 fighters don't struggle like that with the Jeff Horn's of the world.

Jeff Horn did not join my P4P Top 10. He didn't join my Top 5 at Welterweight either. I had Manny at #3 prior to this fight at Welterweight. I now have him #7, Jeff Horn is #6.
If official results were honest for the most part id follow them. But they arent. True pac and horn have 0 business in a p4p top 10
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Jip wrote:
gilgamesh wrote:
Jip wrote:Imagine hoe stupid a p4p list would look like if wed go by official results.

1. Ward
2. Crawford
3. GGG
4. Lomachenko
5. Canelo
6. Wangek
7. Kovalev
8. Thurman
9. Joshua
10. Horn

Aint that a stupid list. A cheater as a p4p king and a c level boxer like horn making the top 10 by beating a legend when he barly won a clear round. On top wangek who many believe lost to gonzales.
I go by the official results for the most part (I briefly had Kovalev ahead of Ward following their first fight, but now have Ward at #1). Pacquiao dropped from my Top 10...to be honest that probably would've been the case even if he'd gotten the decision tonight. P4P Top 10 fighters don't struggle like that with the Jeff Horn's of the world.

Jeff Horn did not join my P4P Top 10. He didn't join my Top 5 at Welterweight either. I had Manny at #3 prior to this fight at Welterweight. I now have him #7, Jeff Horn is #6.
If official results were honest for the most part id follow them. But they arent. True pac and horn have 0 business in a p4p top 10
For the most part they are.
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Jip wrote:Imagine hoe stupid a p4p list would look like if wed go by official results.

1. Ward
2. Crawford
3. GGG
4. Lomachenko
5. Canelo
6. Wangek
7. Kovalev
8. Thurman
9. Joshua
10. Horn

Aint that a stupid list. A cheater as a p4p king and a c level boxer like horn making the top 10 by beating a legend when he barly won a clear round. On top wangek who many believe lost to gonzales.
That's not a bad list, though Horn shouldn't make it for beating Manny.
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SaadOffTheDeck wrote:
Jip wrote:Imagine hoe stupid a p4p list would look like if wed go by official results.

1. Ward
2. Crawford
3. GGG
4. Lomachenko
5. Canelo
6. Wangek
7. Kovalev
8. Thurman
9. Joshua
10. Horn

Aint that a stupid list. A cheater as a p4p king and a c level boxer like horn making the top 10 by beating a legend when he barly won a clear round. On top wangek who many believe lost to gonzales.
That's not a bad list, though Horn shouldn't make it for beating Manny.
Horn and Wangek lost.

Ward is a good boxer, a top 3-6 p4p boxer at very best. But his skills and physical ability aint worthy of a p4p king. You dont lose a fight and do 10 low blows in the second one and fight the way you fight and become p4p #1, thats simply a farce.
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Jip wrote:
SaadOffTheDeck wrote:
Jip wrote:Imagine hoe stupid a p4p list would look like if wed go by official results.

1. Ward
2. Crawford
3. GGG
4. Lomachenko
5. Canelo
6. Wangek
7. Kovalev
8. Thurman
9. Joshua
10. Horn

Aint that a stupid list. A cheater as a p4p king and a c level boxer like horn making the top 10 by beating a legend when he barly won a clear round. On top wangek who many believe lost to gonzales.
That's not a bad list, though Horn shouldn't make it for beating Manny.
Horn and Wangek lost.

Ward is a good boxer, a top 3-6 p4p boxer at very best. But his skills and physical ability aint worthy of a p4p king. You dont lose a fight and do 10 low blows in the second one and fight the way you fight and become p4p #1, thats simply a farce.
I agree they both lost, but the thai warrior gave a tremendous effort against a top guy in a hell of a fight. That list is certainly better than your all time lists. They're the worst ever. I do agree with you that official results aren't needed for a p4p list. It's mythical and meaningless anyway, judge them yourself.
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