Mercer Vs Golota

Tuan_Jim
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Re: Mercer Vs Golota

Post by Tuan_Jim »

keithmoonhangover wrote:
Sklar wrote:Golota is way overrated based on performances against a shot to poo Bowe. Mercer easy.
Before the Golota fight, which performance of Bowe's made you think he was shot to poo?
WHERE HAVE YOU BEEN??!!
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Re: Mercer Vs Golota

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Tuan_Jim wrote:
keithmoonhangover wrote:
Sklar wrote:Golota is way overrated based on performances against a shot to poo Bowe. Mercer easy.
Before the Golota fight, which performance of Bowe's made you think he was shot to poo?
WHERE HAVE YOU BEEN??!!
For me, there is no specific performance before Golota where Bowe looked washed up.. But he did in the Golota fight.. He looked super slow against Golota.. And for the first 3 rounds Herbie Hide boxed the piss out of him until he roughed him up.. Bowe never fought anyone good except Holyfield, but he lost to Holyfield -- and Evander was having health issues around that time which can be clearly seen in his 1st Moorer fight.. A much more fit and stronger Evander beats Bowe like he did Buster Douglas.. Holyfield looked really strong against Tyson too -- and that version of him would have murdered Bowe.
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Re: Mercer Vs Golota

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gregor wrote:
Kalan wrote:
BoxBuzz wrote:IF it was just Golata's skillset that was walking into the ring, I think he'd win.
Golota had no skills BuzzBox -- he couldn't even outbox John Ruiz.
It is like saying Ali had no skills since he couldn't even outbox Berbick.
Have you forgotten who it is you are responding to? Kalan holds the Holmes fight against Ali and he would surely make the Berbick argument too. Kalan knows less than nothing about boxing.
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Re: Mercer Vs Golota

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Well... If you don't like the John Ruiz fight because Golota was in his mid 30's and you want to make excuses for him -- how do you like the Michael Grant and Lennox Lewis fights for Golota's performance??? ... That was certainly a prime and supremely hittable Golota, even by the ponderous Grant.

Ray Mercer would be the favorite to beat Grant all day -- and he fought Lennox Lewis to a standstill.
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Re: Mercer Vs Golota

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Tyson signed to fight Mercer. Lewis had the fight cancelled by court order, he didn't want Tyson jeopradising the Jackpot fight. Tyson was not scared of Mercer.
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Re: Mercer Vs Golota

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keithmoonhangover wrote:
Sklar wrote:Golota is way overrated based on performances against a shot to poo Bowe. Mercer easy.
Before the Golota fight, which performance of Bowe's made you think he was shot to poo?
Bowe was not considered shot at all going into the Golota fight. in fact, many people thought he was the best heavyweight in the world.
He was out of shape and perhaps overconfident in their first fight. And something people always seem to overlook is that it's hard to perform well when someone is constantly hitting you low.
Golota did fight well against Bowe.
At times, Golota showed that he was a pretty good fighters. At times he would have a meltdown.
In the fight against Grant, he looked really good in the early rounds. The fight got more competitive and he quit a fight he quite possibly could have won. That fight really showed Golota in a nutshell.
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Re: Mercer Vs Golota

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Ambling Alp II wrote: At times, Golota showed that he was a pretty good fighters. At times he would have a meltdown. In the fight against Grant, he looked really good in the early rounds. The fight got more competitive and he quit a fight he quite possibly could have won
Golota was the only top ranking Heavyweight who was slower than Grant.. They were both slow but Grant was stronger and a better athlete.

Bowe was slow too, but mentally slow.. He was a better and faster athlete than Golota, but Bowe was a slow thinker and lacked skills.. He reminded me of Joe Louis.. Louis was a slow thinker, but physically very quick and slick.. Jack Blackburn was Louis's brain - an outstanding coach. Louis had a great stance, balance, clean footwork, jab, right hand, left hook and fair defensively.. Louis could evade the punches thrown by most of the guys of his era..

Bowe never fought anyone good except for Holyfield.. Beating Evander was an accident because Holy fought the 2 worst fights of his career against Riddick.. You don't trade punches with a big, tall, strong guy who you could easily box to death.. Mercer, McCall, Lewis, Tyson, Tua, and several other Heavyweights of that era would have trashed Bowe if they got the opportunity to fight him.. Bowe was very hittable.. Golota never hit anyone else who was a top guy

I was impressed with Michael Grant's height and size, but he was almost as slow and ponderous as Carnera.. The Lewis and Guinn fights were massive mistakes for Grant.. They killed him.. He beat Golota and showed potential, but he had a coaching problem.. If you're real slow it's more important to have great skills because you need an advantage.. When you finally prove in the gym you can beat guys of a certain caliber, only then should you be matched with them.
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Re: Mercer Vs Golota

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I think the reason the Golota vrs Mercer fight was called off and not just re-scheduled was because both
had injuries.
Golota with his back and Mercer from injuries to the ligaments in the neck
from his previous fight with Lennox Lewis.
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Re: Mercer Vs Golota

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I thought Andrew Golota had the pootential of being really good,whenever he could get into "His Groove" anyway.
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Re: Mercer Vs Golota

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Bowe was just real bad and made Golota look good... The Foul Pole didn't catch a groove with Tyson, Brewster, Lewis, Grant, or other top Heavyweights.
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