Canelo's odds

Enlightened-One
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Re: Canelo's odds

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boxing_rocks wrote:Mods, for how long will EO be allowed to kill threads ?
Follow the chain of messages contained within this thread and you’ll surely realise that the renowned anti-Brit, caldo2025, went off topic and essentially “killed the thread” on the basis that he’s supported by the “neighbourhood watch” team, whereby you’re a member.

I have a right to defend myself against anyone that initiates conflict by attacking me personally and without provocation. :TU:
Kalan
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Re: Canelo's odds

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caldo2025 wrote:
samdance wrote:Is there anybody that can convince me to not throw lots of money on Canelo?

I can't see past him for this fight, am I missing something?

Golovkin is relatively easy to hit and relies on his ability to walk through his opponent, imo he cannot do that against Canelo who is big, strong and hits too hard.

Canelo has problems against slick movers and defensively minded boxers...this is certainly not GGG.

I believe GGG's record flatters him as he has almost always been much stronger than his opponent with superior or equal boxing ability, and with his style he will always get opposition like that out of there in devastating fashion. Against Canelo, he has a fighter that is close to him in power and strength but with what I believe superior boxing skills.
I'm a GGG fan and If I had to bet the fight with my last dollar, I'd have to go with Canelo. Not because I think that he'll beat GGG because he won't. This fight has HORRIBLE DECISION written all over it. Let's be serious here...no one is getting knocked out in this one because both guys have granite chins. So they are definitely going to the cards and in Vegas, only one person can beat Canelo on the cards there and that's Floyd.

The favorable scorecards that Canelo has managed to receive so far in his career are nothing short of alarming. One judge scored a draw for him against Floyd...that's criminal if nothing else. 118-109 over Trout? Kidding me? I had that fight scored as a draw. Then we get to the Lara fight...117-111 for Canelo? Impossible. To me, there's a stink in the air when it comes to Canelo judging and if i'm GGG then I'm thinking KO or bust. That's the only way he gets his hands raised in this one. THE ONLY WAY.
GGG doesn't have to knock Canelo out... But he has to beat him a lot worse than Erislandy Lara beat him.. Canelo wore dark glasses for a few days after that one to hide the bruises and I had Lara winning 117-111.. Canelo was weight drained for Floyd and I don't think he had the energy to make a fight.. I had Canelo winning 2 rounds. The scores were too damned close -- at least 2 of them.. Floyd is a legend.. GGG is not a legend so he has to do more... and Canelo as an additional 4 years of experience and will be fighting at his correct weight.

I think this will be a career effort from both fighters.
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Re: Canelo's odds

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Enlightened-One wrote:
blazergrad wrote:^^^^ But British isn't a race?
Read my last two posts in this thread again and let me know your thoughts? :lol:
Blazergrad, the kid is a F'ng moron and just doesn't understand the difference. I'll never return another message to this moron. You guys should all follow suit as well until he changes his screen name again.
Enlightened-One
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Re: Canelo's odds

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caldo2025 wrote:
Enlightened-One wrote:
blazergrad wrote:^^^^ But British isn't a race?
Read my last two posts in this thread again and let me know your thoughts? :lol:
Blazergrad, the kid is a F'ng moron and just doesn't understand the difference. I'll never return another message to this moron. You guys should all follow suit as well until he changes his screen name again.
In other words, every single sentence that I’ve written in this thread is factually correct and you are utterly powerless to undermine any of my claims.

I have proven that you don’t know the meaning of the word “racist” and I also provided irrefutable evidence of your own "racist" behaviour against anyone that is British.

I also successfully addressed all of your questions and criticism of Canelo.

Thank-you for conceding defeat… and I’m glad that you’ve finally departed the so-called “neighbourhood watch” team, since your efforts to troll me ultimately proved futile. :TU:

Perhaps we can both ignore each other’s posts from now on?
caldo2025
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Re: Canelo's odds

Post by caldo2025 »

Kalan wrote:
caldo2025 wrote:
samdance wrote:Is there anybody that can convince me to not throw lots of money on Canelo?

I can't see past him for this fight, am I missing something?

Golovkin is relatively easy to hit and relies on his ability to walk through his opponent, imo he cannot do that against Canelo who is big, strong and hits too hard.

Canelo has problems against slick movers and defensively minded boxers...this is certainly not GGG.

I believe GGG's record flatters him as he has almost always been much stronger than his opponent with superior or equal boxing ability, and with his style he will always get opposition like that out of there in devastating fashion. Against Canelo, he has a fighter that is close to him in power and strength but with what I believe superior boxing skills.
I'm a GGG fan and If I had to bet the fight with my last dollar, I'd have to go with Canelo. Not because I think that he'll beat GGG because he won't. This fight has HORRIBLE DECISION written all over it. Let's be serious here...no one is getting knocked out in this one because both guys have granite chins. So they are definitely going to the cards and in Vegas, only one person can beat Canelo on the cards there and that's Floyd.

The favorable scorecards that Canelo has managed to receive so far in his career are nothing short of alarming. One judge scored a draw for him against Floyd...that's criminal if nothing else. 118-109 over Trout? Kidding me? I had that fight scored as a draw. Then we get to the Lara fight...117-111 for Canelo? Impossible. To me, there's a stink in the air when it comes to Canelo judging and if i'm GGG then I'm thinking KO or bust. That's the only way he gets his hands raised in this one. THE ONLY WAY.
GGG doesn't have to knock Canelo out... But he has to beat him a lot worse than Erislandy Lara beat him.. Canelo wore dark glasses for a few days after that one to hide the bruises and I had Lara winning 117-111.. Canelo was weight drained for Floyd and I don't think he had the energy to make a fight.. I had Canelo winning 2 rounds. The scores were too damned close -- at least 2 of them.. Floyd is a legend.. GGG is not a legend so he has to do more... and Canelo as an additional 4 years of experience and will be fighting at his correct weight.

I think this will be a career effort from both fighters.
I agree. GGG does have to do more than Canelo has to in order to get the decision though. For instance, if the fight was as close as GGG/Jacobs was then there's no way GGG gets that decision over Canelo. No shot.. Heck, i was very surprised that GGG got the decision over Jacobs in that one. But GGG does need to put some more exclamation points to be sure he gets those rounds.

I watched the GGG/Jacobs fight over again yesterday and it gave me a little more confidence in Canelo. I don't think that GGG gets enough credit for that win. Jacobs is way better than people give him credit for. His skill level in that fight was ridiculous and never mind how much bigger he appeared than GGG. I keep forgetting that GGG is larger and longer than Canelo and will be hitting down on him. Jacobs looked like a light heavyweight in the ring that night. It gave me a little more confidence in GGG.
caldo2025
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Re: Canelo's odds

Post by caldo2025 »

Enlightened-One wrote:
caldo2025 wrote:
Enlightened-One wrote: Read my last two posts in this thread again and let me know your thoughts? :lol:
Blazergrad, the kid is a F'ng moron and just doesn't understand the difference. I'll never return another message to this moron. You guys should all follow suit as well until he changes his screen name again.
In other words, every single sentence that I’ve written in this thread is factually correct and you are utterly powerless to undermine any of my claims.

I have proven that you don’t know the meaning of the word “racist” and I also provided irrefutable evidence of your own "racist" behaviour against anyone that is British.

I also successfully addressed all of your questions and criticism of Canelo.

Thank-you for conceding defeat… and I’m glad that you’ve finally departed the so-called “neighbourhood watch” team, since your efforts to troll me ultimately proved futile. :TU:

Perhaps we can both ignore each other’s posts from now on?
LOL. It's like whipping a blind kid's ass at this point or burning ants with a magnifying glass. Just go buy a dictionary bro..just pick out a word a day and get to know it, learn it, live it. Make a point to use it in a sentence with one of the other patients in your asylum and then do the same tomorrow. You will eventually get to the R's and MAYBE the correct meaning will not be lost on you because i'm done trying.

Please don't respond back to this. I'll avoid you, you avoid me...done. Problem solved. Don't forget your meds and do what those doctors are telling you and you'll be out in no time bud. Have a nice life.
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