Is Darnell Boone one of the best journeymen of this era?

[Kalan]

Ross Purritty, Emanuel Augustus, and Darnell Boone are probably the top 3 journeymen of the era.

Btw, numerical indicators of a journeyman: win percentage is between 39 and 61%, has fought in more than 10 different regions, no more than half of his fights have occurred in the same region, almost all of his losses are against fighters you've heard of, very few of his wins are against fighters you've heard of, has fought in over 30 fights, boxrec rating is approximately 15 - 35.

I don’t care where boxrec ranks people. Josesito Lopez wouldn’t be a journeyman by your definition because his boxrec rating is way too low at 75.. His win percentage is way too high at 81%, he’s beaten guys who most have heard of like Victor Ortiz, Mike Dallas, and Aaron Martinez. He’s fought in a lot of regions. He puts up a good fight, but he’s certainly not an outstanding performer which makes him a journeyman.

Darnell Boone doesn't fit your definition because he's boxrec ranking is 88.. Ross Puritty doesn’t fit your box either because his win percentage is too high. He’s also not with the present era since he hasn’t fought in 10 years.. Augustus hasn’t fought in well over 6 years.

This is the Joshua era. The Klitschko era effectively ended in 2015 when Fury beat him. The Mayweather era ended in 2015 when he retired. He's doing a 1-off fight where he's a huge favorite, but he's not fighting a ranking professional boxer or trying to win a title of any kind. They're doing a circus.

[Lackeos]

Ross Purritty, Emanuel Augustus, and Darnell Boone are probably the top 3 journeymen of the era.

Btw, numerical indicators of a journeyman: win percentage is between 39 and 61%, has fought in more than 10 different regions, no more than half of his fights have occurred in the same region, almost all of his losses are against fighters you've heard of, very few of his wins are against fighters you've heard of, has fought in over 30 fights, boxrec rating is approximately 15 - 35.

I don’t care where boxrec ranks people. Josesito Lopez wouldn’t be a journeyman by your definition because his boxrec rating is way too low at 75.. His win percentage is way too high at 81%, he’s beaten guys who most have heard of like Victor Ortiz, Mike Dallas, and Aaron Martinez. He’s fought in a lot of regions. He puts up a good fight, but he’s certainly not an outstanding performer which makes him a journeyman.

Darnell Boone doesn't fit your definition because he's boxrec ranking is 88.. Ross Puritty doesn’t fit your box either because his win percentage is too high. He’s also not with the present era since he hasn’t fought in 10 years.. Augustus hasn’t fought in well over 6 years.

This is the Joshua era. The Klitschko era effectively ended in 2015 when Fury beat him. The Mayweather era ended in 2015 when he retired. He's doing a 1-off fight where he's a huge favorite, but he's not fighting a ranking professional boxer or trying to win a title of any kind. They're doing a circus.

Purritty's win percentage is 57% (that's between 39 and 61). Boone's boxrec rating has fluctuated between 11 and 61 during his prime, but it is currently 21 (that's between 15 and 35). They are all pretty reasonable fits of the criteria, which is pretty narrow criteria considering that it isn't easy to define narrow parameters that every journeyman falls into. I could've gone broader, and then I could've effortless squeezed every journeyman into one box. But it's still a pretty idiot-proof guideline, unless you're the type of person who is resistant to absorbing information.

Josesito Lopez is not a journeyman. He almost always fights in Nevada and California (that is not journeying), and is usually the A-side of his fights. A journeyman is a guy who will and has traveled literally anywhere for a 5-figure paycheck against a name fighter, has fought in countless different states and different countries, and name fighters are deliberately seeking the journeyman out to get guaranteed, but difficult wins against an established dude with some skill who can go rounds without being a threat. A journeyman will job to 10+ name fighters in the course of his career. A welterweight journeyman is someone like Demarcus Corley who has traveled to fight in Jamaica, North Carolina, Puerto Rico, Guyana, Mexico, Denmark, Sweden, Texas, Colorado, Florida, Bolivia, Turkey, Ukraine, UK, New York, Russia, Canada, Argentina, Virginia, California, Kazakhstan, Arizona, New Jersey, Washington State, Nicaragua, Louisiana, South Carolina, Nevada, China, Oregon, Tennessee, and Maryland. Corley has 28 losses on his record, including losses to Selcuk Aydin, Viktor Postol, Ruslan Provodnikov, Thomas Dulorme, Lucas Matthysse, Serhiy Fedchenko, Marcos Maidana, Freddy Hernandez, Randall Bailey, Ashley Theophane, Devon Alexander, Junior Witter, Miguel Cotto, Floyd Mayweather, and Zab Judah. Journeymen are people like Zack Page, Julius Long, Raphael Zumbano Love, Marcelo Luiz Nascimento, Michael Sprott, Jason Gavern, Harold Sconiers, Evgeny Orlov, Sedreck Fields, Jason Bergman, etc.

[SaadOffTheDeck]

Corley was better than you give him credit for. Certainly better than Hank Lundy in his prime. More of a gate keeper.

[Ketchel]

In the UK Peter Buckley was the most recognised of journeymen and as well known as most of the elite boxers. Retired after 300 fights with only 10 stoppage losses. Fought 13 guys who went on to be recognised as world champions taking most of them the distance. A real "have gloves, will fight" guy.

[Dixonian]

A journeyman fights anyone, anywhere, anywhen. They don't care about winning, only surviving and getting paid for it.

You're full of crap.. A journeyman cares a lot about winning.. You're talking about a bum who's record is loaded with losses.. A Journeyman is a capable performer, but not outstanding. He'll put up a good fight with anybody and give fans their money's worth.. Tervor Berbick was even referred to as a "journeyman Heavyweight" when he fought Ali.. though he was a future World Champion.

Buddy, the clues in the word 'journeyman'. Really think about that.

[cocka09]

No he's not... He lacks skills and gets beaten and knocked out too often... He's one of the best known because he floored Ward and knocked Adonis Chickenson out... Better journeymen are: Hank Lundy.. Andrzej Fonfara.. Jhonny Gonzalez.. John Molina.. and guys who generally hang in there. Boone loses to a lot of guys you never heard of and he has little going except he can throw.

It amazes me that one person can have such outlandish, idiotic opinions on almost every thread on this forum.

[Nightmare Roy]

In the UK Peter Buckley was the most recognised of journeymen and as well known as most of the elite boxers. Retired after 300 fights with only 10 stoppage losses. Fought 13 guys who went on to be recognised as world champions taking most of them the distance. A real "have gloves, will fight" guy.

You beat me to it, he was very good, went in with top fighters and took them the distance. One of the few men to take Naz to points. The Sun did a story about him titled "Is this the worst boxer ever" fcuking clueless idiots.

[Kalan]

A journeyman fights anyone, anywhere, anywhen. They don't care about winning, only surviving and getting paid for it.

You're full of crap.. A journeyman cares a lot about winning.. You're talking about a bum who's record is loaded with losses.. A Journeyman is a capable performer, but not outstanding. He'll put up a good fight with anybody and give fans their money's worth.. Tervor Berbick was even referred to as a "journeyman Heavyweight" when he fought Ali.. though he was a future World Champion.

Buddy, the clues in the word 'journeyman'. Really think about that.

You think about this: Here's the definition, and it has nothing to do with "journeying" far and wide, LOL you guys are oblivious... "A journeyman is a skilled worker who has successfully completed an official apprenticeship qualification in a building trade or craft. He is considered competent and authorized to work in that field as a fully qualified employee. A journeyman earns his license by education, supervised experience, and examination."

A journeyman boxer is therefore not a 4-round, 6-round, or 8-round fighter.. He's a fully qualified 10 or 12 round fighter who generally fights high on the bill, if not the main event. You don't cease to be a journeyman when you become a fringe contender, but you're generally not considered a Journeyman if you're a top 10 ranking boxer because you're now in the mix of boxers contending for world honors.

And BTW... Journey is an obsolete word that means a day's work -- hence journeyman.

[GalenBadBoyBrown]

To me a journeyman fighter is someone like my self I knew I wasn't gonna be a world champion, so I decided to fight any fighter that I was offered. From super middleweight to heavyweight. I can compete with good fighters but have come up short a lot of times. But I have been able to make a decent living for my family. As a journeyman we could be sitting at home get the call and be in the ring anywhere in the world the next day. We have full time jobs and fight to make extra money and in my situation I love the fun I have fighting win lose or draw I have fun being a fighter,that's why I have had 86 pro fights and done it for the past 16 years next month. Some people might not consider me a journeyman they will say less but I call myself a full blown journeyman. Just my thoughts

[SaadOffTheDeck]

To me a journeyman fighter is someone like my self I knew I wasn't gonna be a world champion, so I decided to fight any fighter that I was offered. From super middleweight to heavyweight. I can compete with good fighters but have come up short a lot of times. But I have been able to make a decent living for my family. As a journeyman we could be sitting at home get the call and be in the ring anywhere in the world the next day. We have full time jobs and fight to make extra money and in my situation I love the fun I have fighting win lose or draw I have fun being a fighter,that's why I have had 86 pro fights and done it for the past 16 years next month. Some people might not consider me a journeyman they will say less but I call myself a full blown journeyman. Just my thoughts

[Kalan]

To me a journeyman fighter is someone like my self I knew I wasn't gonna be a world champion, so I decided to fight any fighter that I was offered. From super middleweight to heavyweight. I can compete with good fighters but have come up short a lot of times. But I have been able to make a decent living for my family. As a journeyman we could be sitting at home get the call and be in the ring anywhere in the world the next day. We have full time jobs and fight to make extra money and in my situation I love the fun I have fighting win lose or draw I have fun being a fighter,that's why I have had 86 pro fights and done it for the past 16 years next month. Some people might not consider me a journeyman they will say less but I call myself a full blown journeyman. Just my thoughts

Exactly Galen. But according to one pundit's arbitrary definition of Journeyman Fighter above: "Numerical indicators of a journeyman: win percentage between 39 and 61%, fought in more than 10 different regions, no more than half of his fights have occurred in the same region, almost all of his losses are against fighters you've heard of, very few of his wins are against fighters you've heard of, has fought in over 30 fights, boxrec rating is approximately 15 - 35." You're not.

For example. In your prime after 37 fights you had a winning ratio of 78%.. That made you too successful to be a journeyman according to folks who believe all journeymen boxers get pounded regularly by anybody who's any good and built a name for himself. They need to have a ton of losses. I noticed you fought Rob Calloway who's the very definition of a Journeyman Fighter. He had a winning ratio of 88% when you fought him so he wouldn't qualify as a journeyman according to pundits who think you need to get your ass kicked on a regular basis.

Pundits like to categorize boxers according to contenders, fringe contenders, gate keepers, journeymen etc., and shape a box for each category. If you’re a competent 10 or 12 round fighter who has the requisite skills to defend yourself and a potent enough offense to provide thrills for the fans, you’re a Journeyman Fighter. You don’t need to check all the boxes some air headed pundit comes up with to be a journeyman in this business.

[gb]

Ismael Abdoul is a cracking journeyman.

[Gnome]

Kamil Sokolowski - relatively new on the scene, cracking journeyman in the UK heavyweight scene. If I understand journeyman right, there seems to be lots of definitions buzzing about here. Check out his record and let me know.

http://boxrec.com/boxer/698269

[Kalan]

Kamil Sokolowski - relatively new on the scene, cracking journeyman in the UK heavyweight scene. If I understand journeyman right, there seems to be lots of definitions buzzing about here. Check out his record and let me know.

http://boxrec.com/boxer/698269

Sokolowski doesn't have enough experience or fights to be a journeyman.. He's not out of 8 rounders.. If he fought and won some 12 round fights like Galen Brown, or if he even won some 10-round fights.. I don't think you need 30 fights to be a journeyman -- but at least 20.. Journeyman implies experience.

[Dixonian]

To me a journeyman fighter is someone like my self I knew I wasn't gonna be a world champion, so I decided to fight any fighter that I was offered. From super middleweight to heavyweight. I can compete with good fighters but have come up short a lot of times. But I have been able to make a decent living for my family. As a journeyman we could be sitting at home get the call and be in the ring anywhere in the world the next day. We have full time jobs and fight to make extra money and in my situation I love the fun I have fighting win lose or draw I have fun being a fighter,that's why I have had 86 pro fights and done it for the past 16 years next month. Some people might not consider me a journeyman they will say less but I call myself a full blown journeyman. Just my thoughts

Good post Galen - and it's good to have insights from someone in the trade.

The point in bold is what I consider a journeyman to be and that's certainly the accepted definition here in the UK. I certainly couldn't consider Jhonny Gonzalez a journeyman as someone else on here does!!

I go to some of the small hall shows and I enjoy seeing the journeyman guys showing the young up-and-comers the ropes. You get all kinds of journeyman - you get some guys who are dangerous but most are just happy to see the end of the fight with barely a scratch on them.

Kristian Laight is one of the best at it here. He's only been stopped five times in 268 fights.

[Dixonian]

Kamil Sokolowski - relatively new on the scene, cracking journeyman in the UK heavyweight scene. If I understand journeyman right, there seems to be lots of definitions buzzing about here. Check out his record and let me know.

http://boxrec.com/boxer/698269

Yeah he's a journeyman - and turning into a dangerous one too. Which, of course, could create a problem. I.e. If promoters consider him to be risky a matchup for their ticket sellers, he won't get the call.

[Dixonian]

You're full of crap.. A journeyman cares a lot about winning.. You're talking about a bum who's record is loaded with losses.. A Journeyman is a capable performer, but not outstanding. He'll put up a good fight with anybody and give fans their money's worth.. Tervor Berbick was even referred to as a "journeyman Heavyweight" when he fought Ali.. though he was a future World Champion.

Buddy, the clues in the word 'journeyman'. Really think about that.

You think about this: Here's the definition, and it has nothing to do with "journeying" far and wide, LOL you guys are oblivious... "A journeyman is a skilled worker who has successfully completed an official apprenticeship qualification in a building trade or craft. He is considered competent and authorized to work in that field as a fully qualified employee. A journeyman earns his license by education, supervised experience, and examination."

A journeyman boxer is therefore not a 4-round, 6-round, or 8-round fighter.. He's a fully qualified 10 or 12 round fighter who generally fights high on the bill, if not the main event. You don't cease to be a journeyman when you become a fringe contender, but you're generally not considered a Journeyman if you're a top 10 ranking boxer because you're now in the mix of boxers contending for world honors.

And BTW... Journey is an obsolete word that means a day's work -- hence journeyman.

Your definition is irrelevant as it refers to a different context - clearly it is not a definition relevant to boxing. BoxRec defines a journeyman as:

"...a boxer who has little or no expectation of winning his fights, thus he is said to be "along for the journey". They are generally competent boxers who possess solid boxing skills and/or the ability to absorb punishment. Often they were aspiring novices or even prospects, but were defeated and found to have limitations which relegated them to the role of journeyman."

There may be slightly divergent definitions in the US and UK - but Jhonny Gonzalez as a journeyman is clearly nonsense.

[Gnome]

Kamil Sokolowski - relatively new on the scene, cracking journeyman in the UK heavyweight scene. If I understand journeyman right, there seems to be lots of definitions buzzing about here. Check out his record and let me know.

http://boxrec.com/boxer/698269

Yeah he's a journeyman - and turning into a dangerous one too. Which, of course, could create a problem. I.e. If promoters consider him to be risky a matchup for their ticket sellers, he won't get the call.

He's few 0s from fighters' records - arguably a gatekeeper in that sense too. Someone lads like Joyce or Dubois could face. He'd give them rounds and not in a Kevin Johnson way.

[SaadOffTheDeck]

It's someone brought in to lose and give rounds, sometimes they win. That's about the simplest definition I can give.

[Lackeos]

For example. In your prime after 37 fights you had a winning ratio of 78%.. That made you too successful to be a journeyman according to folks who believe all journeymen boxers get pounded regularly by anybody who's any good and built a name for himself.

Galen's win percentage is 53.7%. The fact that you're trying to spin it like he has a win percentage of 78% just makes you a big f*cking liar pants. Please take your alternative math somewhere else. 44 / 82, it's that simple, and there's only one possible answer that it can compute to. Seriously, if you're going to resort to using fake math, then you're basically just trying to cheat to avoid admitting that you were wrong.

I noticed you fought Rob Calloway who's the very definition of a Journeyman Fighter. He had a winning ratio of 88% when you fought him so he wouldn't qualify as a journeyman according to pundits who think you need to get your ass kicked on a regular basis.

Rob Calloway isn't a journeyman, and you've proven yourself to be the single most unqualified poster on the entire forum to distinguish who is or isn't a journeyman. Calloway spent the majority of his career fighting in Missouri, and a big chunk of his remaining time traveling one state over to fight in Iowa. Calloway is the definition of a clubfighter. He repeatedly fights at the same boxing club. Clubfighter: you fight at the same club over and over. You're a small-time, local attraction who doesn't travel very far, very often.

Everyone else in this thread has been using this terminology for longer than you have been following boxing. You don't define the terminology that everyone else used before you got here. It is your responsibility to learn how everybody else uses it.

[Ruthless-RKO]

Having not fought sine 2019, he started again in 2024.

https://boxrec.com/en/box-pro/255010

he needs to balance his record out

[igor king]

Gabriel Rosado is one of the best.

If Sam Soliman qualifies, he is too.

[zorndeslammes]

Having not fought sine 2019, he started again in 2024.

https://boxrec.com/en/box-pro/255010

he needs to balance his record out

That's too bad. Boone being a guy who turned his life around with boxing (the man's aversion to cursing is legitimately funny) going back now at this point is kind of a tragedy.