Being professional

[Cazelo]

So after having had my first 2 pro fights under the Malta boxing commission I'll be boxing under BBBofC now on. so having not boxed for a year and half due to some issues thought I'd get people's advice/opinions.

With having to sell tickets every fight I thought getting sponsors to help with this would ease loads of pressure. Anyone got any tips on the kind of companies that would sponsor or how to attract them?

I've got a sponsor for kit, massages and my medical.

And then what thoughts have people got around boosting ticket sales so that spectators want to buy tickets regularly?

[Tomasino]

So after having had my first 2 pro fights under the Malta boxing commission I'll be boxing under BBBofC now on. so having not boxed for a year and half due to some issues thought I'd get people's advice/opinions.

With having to sell tickets every fight I thought getting sponsors to help with this would ease loads of pressure. Anyone got any tips on the kind of companies that would sponsor or how to attract them?

I've got a sponsor for kit, massages and my medical.

And then what thoughts have people got around boosting ticket sales so that spectators want to buy tickets regularly?

Social media is the publicity machine. Do a story on Instagram and snapchat with your training and sparring etc, make yourself look good, don't be shy. Show your diet and give your followers tips on diet and training etc. All the high profile pros and prospects do this. Get followers any way you can, use an app or a service. More people see you, more people talk about you.

[Boxing Prospect]

Contact the boxing websites, offer interviews, get your name out there

[TheCobra]

Who are you?

[Cazelo]

Who are you?

Carwyn Herbert

Thanks for the tips

[Londonirish]

Who are you?

Carwyn Herbert

Thanks for the tips

How many Am fights did you have? What weight, What area you in?

[Cazelo]

Had about 38 amateur bouts. Well 20 amateur, 18 unlicensed. In the Nottingham area but from west wales originally. Been here Abi 8 years

[REEVE]

Why don't you go on the road mate ? No pressure to sell tickets ....I totally understand the reason if it's to get good matches and get a title shot but a lot of lads I know on ticket "deals" end up boxing for £0 or very little - it's a lot of work to go in if you can't gaurantee selling 100 tickets you won't make what you do on the road

[Cazelo]

Why don't you go on the road mate ? No pressure to sell tickets ....I totally understand the reason if it's to get good matches and get a title shot but a lot of lads I know on ticket "deals" end up boxing for £0 or very little - it's a lot of work to go in if you can't gaurantee selling 100 tickets you won't make what you do on the road

Don't need the money mate. Managed to get myself a good job last year.'

I want good matches, titles shit and a nice record

[Londonirish]

Why don't you go on the road mate ? No pressure to sell tickets ....I totally understand the reason if it's to get good matches and get a title shot but a lot of lads I know on ticket "deals" end up boxing for £0 or very little - it's a lot of work to go in if you can't gaurantee selling 100 tickets you won't make what you do on the road

Don't need the money mate. Managed to get myself a good job last year.'

I want good matches, titles poo and a nice record

Need the money or NOT it's B0llox you'll feel like they are taking the piss out of you, that you'll have to do 100 tickets plus befor you even get a bean. if you do want to turn over it will become an Expensive Hobby the money you be out on Travel, Equipment, Hotels taking time off work etc


What weight are you?

[Cazelo]

Why don't you go on the road mate ? No pressure to sell tickets ....I totally understand the reason if it's to get good matches and get a title shot but a lot of lads I know on ticket "deals" end up boxing for £0 or very little - it's a lot of work to go in if you can't gaurantee selling 100 tickets you won't make what you do on the road

Don't need the money mate. Managed to get myself a good job last year.'

I want good matches, titles poo and a nice record

Need the money or NOT it's B0llox you'll feel like they are taking the piss out of you, that you'll have to do 100 tickets plus befor you even get a bean. if you do want to turn over it will become an Expensive Hobby the money you be out on Travel, Equipment, Hotels taking time off work etc


What weight are you?

Know full well mate. Medicals etc are expensive. Already turned over.

Light middle weight or super welter as its now being called

[Pukka Cheese]

So after having had my first 2 pro fights under the Malta boxing commission I'll be boxing under BBBofC now on. so having not boxed for a year and half due to some issues thought I'd get people's advice/opinions.

With having to sell tickets every fight I thought getting sponsors to help with this would ease loads of pressure. Anyone got any tips on the kind of companies that would sponsor or how to attract them?

I've got a sponsor for kit, massages and my medical.

And then what thoughts have people got around boosting ticket sales so that spectators want to buy tickets regularly?

Social media is the publicity machine. Do a story on Instagram and snapchat with your training and sparring etc, make yourself look good, don't be shy. Show your diet and give your followers tips on diet and training etc. All the high profile pros and prospects do this. Get followers any way you can, use an app or a service. More people see you, more people talk about you.

This 100%

Build up a social media cult.

[Oiky]

I agree with tomasino

[CharlesListon]

Get a decent manager who is in with a promoter.

You'll need to sell about 1200 pounds worth of tickets to cover a 4 round opppnent.
1500 plus for 6.

Some promoters will also require you to pay for your place on a show in addition to the above.

Sponsors will help but in my experience you'll need a few wins before sponsors will pay anything meaningful.

Personally I'd rather wear plain trunks and cheap boots and spend my sponsor money on getting onto cards rather than Gucci kit.

If you aren't connected to a promoter don't expect any favours and don't give them any excuse to shaft you on your wage or cut of tickets. If they want a fight made at 154 make sure you are bang on.

You're make more money as a journeyman unless you end up a world champion mate.

Good luck .

[nobleart1978]

DON'T BOTHER!!

Unless you've won a load of schoolboy or junior amateur titles a big time promoter won't look at you. Same goes for trainers.

You'll end up being a journeyman - in other words an £800 a fight punch bag up and down motorways at short notice every week.

Don't be romantic about it - every journeyman I've known is damaged compared to a man their age who hasn't been punched every week.

[Coco]

Selling tickets will get you wins without being a great fighter.
While being a journeyman is hard, if you know your trade you can get out in good nick.

[CharlesListon]

DON'T BOTHER!!

Unless you've won a load of schoolboy or junior amateur titles a big time promoter won't look at you. Same goes for trainers.

You'll end up being a journeyman - in other words an £800 a fight punch bag up and down motorways at short notice every week.

Don't be romantic about it - every journeyman I've known is damaged compared to a man their age who hasn't been punched every week.

In essence that is right, but a 4 rounder is about 1200 now. Sometimes a bit less, definatly less if you come in over. It's about 1500 for a 6 rounder.

You'll find a decent trainer and manager that will look after you but unless you are with Frank or Eddie you can pretty much forget about tv unless you are the away fighter.

As long as you have a manager that can work with promoters (and is already doing it) you'll be fine as long as you can cover the cost of your opponent. Most small hall shows charge 25 to 40 for standard tickets. Ringside or VIP are 50 plus.

That means you need to sell 40 tickets at 30quid to cover a 4 rounder. 80 should see you make a grand, but you have to pay your trainer and manager their cut.

I'm repeating myself here, but if you don't have a connected manager you can also expect to pay around a grand to be on a show. Some promoters are robbing snakes and insist upon it with promises of it'll be different next time and they'll sort you out a title of some description within 6 months blah blah blah.

I've got several lad, the ones with the decent managers do about 800 to 1500 a fight. The ones without have literally boxed for fornicate all.

Finally, it sounds easy to sell 100 tickets. It might me the first time. It might not. A lot of Facebook mates say they'll come and dont. Don't count on the money until it's in your hand and if you are coming up short on what you were expecting tell the promoter asap or you could end up getting pulled from the show and still having to pay out something.

Also like I said before.....dont waste sponsorship money. Keep some back. It's better to fight on a show and build a record than waste it all on kit and then not fight or fight for free. The more wins you get, the more exposure in local press and social media etc. the more you can get from sponsors in the long run.

I've got no reason to paint any kind of picture other than the real one. Hopefully you'll listen and do OK unlike a couple of the idiots I've got that don't listen and keep on fornicating up. It's why there are a lot of lads have 2 to 5 pro fights and disappear.

[Sklar]

Don't be one of those pros who dogs friends and family to buy tickets, it's fornicating annoying. You know when you see that name pop up on your phone it'll be about one thing and one thing only.

[CharlesListon]

To be fair Sklar they have to. I know it's a pain though but so many het let down that they have to chase up.

[Sklar]

Is making fornicate all on half a dozen gimme fights against journeymen worth alienating mates? I don't think so. If you're mates with a brickie or a spark you'd soon get pissed off with him phoning you up only to ask if you need any work doing.

[Cazelo]

Is making eff all on half a dozen gimme fights against journeymen worth alienating mates? I don't think so. If you're mates with a brickie or a spark you'd soon get pissed off with him phoning you up only to ask if you need any work doing.

Having done this for the 2 previous fights i hate chasing up. It's a necessary evil though. If someone says no first time I ask then they won't receive any further messages regarding it

[REEVE]

Selling tickets will get you wins without being a great fighter.
While being a journeyman is hard, if you know your trade you can get out in good nick.

Agree with this ...I've seen lads who've had 5/10 fights as tickets sellers and they get bashed up to fornicate (2 please the crowd)

I had my 14th fight on satday night and left the ring without a mark on me

[TheCobra]

There are definitely many easier ways to make money than being a journeyman getting bashed up for £800-£1000. Is it really worth your health for that bit of money?

On the other side of it, I realy do feel sorry for the young up and coming lads under pressure to sell 'X' amount of tickets. That sucks and I know it's hard at £40 a ticket to get a crowd each time.

It's a tough sport to make it in, I'd want to be either REALLY good at it or not bother, I couldn't be arsed in that middle ground where you're having to suck up to small time promoters for a 4 round gig.

[Dixonian]

Who are you?

Carwyn Herbert

Thanks for the tips

All the best. It's a tough calling but if you don't give it a go then you'll always have regrets.

Another social media tip: connect with local companies on Twitter and FB, as well as local publications and charities. Feel free to share local news stories to really bed yourself into the local community (keep it light and non-political) as well as your fitness tips, photos etc etc as mentioned.

[TheCobra]

Pick a football team and wear their shirt coming into the ring and play their theme music. Go to their games and try and get the club to introduce you before the game etc. It's a cynical ploy but worked brilliantly for Hatton/Bellew/Warrington.