APerno wrote:Fans or writers seldom complain about the judging of Gymnastics, Diving, and Figure Skating events.
Couldn't be more wrong.
How did you associate (edit) those words on to me? - I never said that, you screwed up the editing. - I was challenging that very premise with my reply regarding the East German Judge (bad) joke.
APerno wrote:A fight to the finish was a better way to choose a champion then having three wannabees ... expressing an opinion.The increased length between preliminary and championship fights was not meant to improve excitement but instead to force an outcome.
The judges aren't expressing an "opinion." Their professional presence is there to tabulate the RESULT to a boxing match. Fans or writers seldom complain about the judging of Gymnastics, Diving, and Figure Skating events. The judges working a world-class competition have a strong background in their sport. If they score a high bar, floor exercise, or balance beam performance 9.975 -- that's most likely EXACTLY what it was -- because they're experts with sharp vision, a powerful attention span, and they're very good at basic math, fractions, and decimals -- which is what they're dealing in. There's no delay handing in the scores.
Boxing judges often lack any background in the sport, have the attention span of Lulu, and lack the intelligence to add their own score cards correctly. "There's been a further delay in re-checking the scorecards folks... but we should have the decision momentarily. There were a couple errors but the commissioner just okayed the cards. Here's Michael Buffer." ... "Ladies and gentlemen, After 12 rounds of action we have a Split Decision." ... Right. What else?
The concept of a "fights to the finish" is delusionary. Jim Corbett and Peter Jackson fought for 61 rounds -- the last 36 of which were so painfully slow that fans were literally falling asleep. Both boxers were severely injured by then and could barely move. Finally the fight was stopped and declared "unsatisfactory to the members of this club" and a NC. The purse was withheld from the boxers and both of them declared they were done with Boxing.
A fight to the finish is a barbarian concept anyway...like a fight to the death. The Dempsey-Tunney fights were extremely well received by the public though they were scheduled for only 10 rounds -- a very good thing for Dempsey because he was headed for certain KO losses that nobody wanted to see.
Don't think I was championing the use of 'fights to the finish' I was only suggesting that rounds were extended for championship fights so as to avoid NCs not that it was a good idea - Once judged decisions were acceptable to the fighters and fans the number of rounds quickly (as you point out in Dempsey-Tunney) reduced. But also I don't agree with your assessment that judge's scores are more than (an experienced based ) opinion.
First of all, an NC is not a draw.. It's a no contest.. NC's occur when a foul injury ends a fight before 4 rounds have elapsed.. It's irrelevant to 12 or 15 rounds.
And I didn't say you were "championing" fights to the finish.. You claimed "A fight to the finish was a better way to choose a champion" than 3 judges. That's messed up.. We've seen fights go 61 rounds of sheer unwatchable drudgery -- and probably shortened the 2 boxers' careers more drastically than about any other fight before a little intelligence regarding "fights to the finish" prevailed.. There is no perfect solution to determine who wins a 12-round fight.. The proposal that we have 3 judges on each side of the ring (12 in all) would allow for eliminating the high and low scores for each boxer and adding the other 10 scores up and dividing by 10.. If you had only 1 or 2 judges to a side you could use the same concept.
Then our "10-point must" scoring system badly needs a total revision and update.. Getting out-punched 15 to 4 in a round often earns the same 9 points as getting out-punched 17 to 15 in a hard fought round. That makes no sense. We should have an individual score for each boxer in each round.. score 0 points for a complete fail... 1/2 to 2 points for an unsatisfactory effort... 2.5 to 4.5 points for a satisfactory effort but a deficient execution... 5 to 6.5 points for a satisfactory effort and fair execution... 7 to 8 points for a good effort and good execution... 8.5 to 9.5 points for an excellent effort and excellent execution... 10 points for a brilliant and flawless effort and execution... You wouldn't have any draws that way I promise... How many ties do you see in Gymnastics, Diving, or Figure Skating???... Those competitions always produce a winner and if there're 20 competitors they produce the right winner.