Mikey Garcia vs. Adrien Broner RBR

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Re: Garcia - Broner rbr

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asdfjkl wrote:
marvelous marv wrote:Iegor Plevako 4-0 may be another heavy name to keep and eye on. Hes like 6'5, very strong yet skilled Ukranian.
I see more in Mladen Miljas for example TBH, do you know the reason the reason the other heavyweight fight didn't happen?
What footage have you seen of Miljas? Can you post it so we can see how good he looks?
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Re: Garcia - Broner rbr

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crusader wrote:
asdfjkl wrote:
marvelous marv wrote:Iegor Plevako 4-0 may be another heavy name to keep and eye on. Hes like 6'5, very strong yet skilled Ukranian.
I see more in Mladen Miljas for example TBH, do you know the reason the reason the other heavyweight fight didn't happen?
What footage have you seen of Miljas? Can you post it so we can see how good he looks?
Just use google, he has some on his Instagram, or in every case used to have. I'm on my phone now, can't help you out much further. There also used to be an interview with him, he's intelligent and takes it serious.
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Re: Garcia - Broner rbr

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Arias won by TKO. He is a short but very muscular heavy, kind of like Tua, but doesn't fight like Tua. He at times fought with his hands down doing a Roy Jones Jr impersonation and clowning his opponent. I have never seen a true heavyweight do that and get away with it before.
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Re: Garcia - Broner rbr

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Hopefully Broner will be focused and in shape for his next big fight. :roll:
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Re: Garcia - Broner rbr

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He does have a lot of heart, he just lacks the skills and brain.
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Re: Garcia - Broner rbr

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Thought Mikey Garcia was excellent last night. Nothing jaw-dropping but really clinical performance, very good example of educated pressure. Was able to back Broner up to the ropes consistently, often without throwing punches. Takes lots of very short steps to edge himself into range, always set to throw or to quickly get out of range. So frustrating watching pressure fighters rush in and smother their own work, Mikey on the other hand was always in control. Used his jab well when Broner was on the ropes as well. Often doubled it up and used it to blind Broner who went with a high guard, allowing Mikey to whip in right hands either round the guard or downstairs. AB looked in decent shape and can clearly fight, but showed a complete lack of intelligence imo. Allowed himself to be backed up by (on paper) a smaller opponent. Had some success when he looked to get on the front foot but took far too long to realise that's what he had to do. He can still be a player at 140, especially if Mikey goes back to 135 or Crawford goes to 147.

I think Crawford is the only guy I'd pick to beat Mikey at 140 or below. I'm desperate to see Crawford at Welter so Garcia vs Linares at Lightweight is the dream fight for me.
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Re: Garcia - Broner rbr

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SaadOffTheDeck wrote:Hopefully Broner will be focused and in shape for his next big fight. :roll:
:lol: :lol:
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Re: Garcia - Broner rbr

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marvelous marv wrote:Arias won by TKO. He is a short but very muscular heavy ... He at times fought with his hands down doing a Roy Jones Jr impersonation and clowning his opponent. I have never seen a true heavyweight do that and get away with it before.
Very good boxers in every weight class drop their hands below their waist when they have an opponent who won't throw. Mikey did that last night -- trying to get Broner to throw something. It's not much of a fight when one guy is just backing up, laying on the ropes, not throwing, and expecting you to do all the work. AB just wants you to expend all your energy and exhaust yourself. When he gets a really big fat opening -- that's when he throws. Dropping your hands way down below your waist is one way of telling the judges and viewers "Hey, this clown won't throw. He doesn't want to fight. It's not my fault a fight isn't happening."

The difference between Mikey Garcia and Shawn Porter is timing. They're both very great fighters, but Mikey's timing is so good he won't let you duck under a punch and grab... Porter-Broner was a wrestling match and didn't make Porter look very masterful.. Shawn is real good but the wrestling stunk up the fight... If Broner could box this would have been a great fight... Garcia is one of the 5 best boxers in the world and AB got 10 good shots on him in 12 rounds.
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Re: Garcia - Broner rbr

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Kalan wrote:
marvelous marv wrote:Arias won by TKO. He is a short but very muscular heavy ... He at times fought with his hands down doing a Roy Jones Jr impersonation and clowning his opponent. I have never seen a true heavyweight do that and get away with it before.
Very good boxers in every weight class drop their hands below their waist when they have an opponent who won't throw. Mikey did that last night -- trying to get Broner to throw something. It's not much of a fight when one guy is just backing up, laying on the ropes, not throwing, and expecting you to do all the work. AB just wants you to expend all your energy and exhaust yourself. When he gets a really big fat opening -- that's when he throws. Dropping your hands way down below your waist is one way of telling the judges and viewers "Hey, this clown won't throw. He doesn't want to fight. It's not my fault a fight isn't happening."

The difference between Mikey Garcia and Shawn Porter is timing. They're both very great fighters, but Mikey's timing is so good he won't let you duck under a punch and grab... Porter-Broner was a wrestling match and didn't make Porter look very masterful.. Shawn is real good but the wrestling stunk up the fight... If Broner could box this would have been a great fight... Garcia is one of the 5 best boxers in the world and AB got 10 good shots on him in 12 rounds.
The difference between porter and Garcia is a lot more than just timing. Garcia positions himself better than Porter. Porter is a bit rough around the edges and very gritty. Garcia, while gritty himself, is extremely polished.
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Re: Garcia - Broner rbr

Post by Evander »

Mikey Garcia looked good, very professional.
He didn't get carried away and took care of business, definitely an A list Mexican which is quite the honor congratulations.
Broner hit a lot of gloves and did some things that looked good but didn't really pack a punch, there was no sense of urgency about his work even though his corner urged him to do so.
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Re: Garcia - Broner rbr

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I think we have seen the best of Broner. Garcia was simply superior in every category. Broner said it himself once: "There are levels". The problem is, "The Problem" is lower than he thinks. I do think he came to fight, was in shape, focused, etc. Just not good enough.
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