Mickey Garcia is a boring, safety first fighter

[Impractical Poster]

Good fight, obviously not a great fight because Garcia won it so easily.

"Boring" is a ridiculous description, as others have alluded to. If you demand cuts and concussions watch some old ECW tapes.

I was worried though I was going to watch another robbery considering Broner is a homeboy in Brooklyn. Broner can take a very good shot, he deserves credit for that. Excellent performance from Garcia.

Boring, as i said

And that's not the first time he's been in boring fights.
He gets guys out of there by sheer physical qualities; but when faced with another talent able to push him, he plays it safe.

Like how he fought Salido?

[Kalan]

It was one of those fights where both guys stock went down. Garcia fans before fight will stay fans and say it was "textbook". The rest will call as it was, boring and unappealing stylistically.

in the rare spots Broner came forward, he outclassed Garcia and hurt him. If Broner ever had a top chief second, he'd be unbeatable. How anyone is dumb enough to think they can win a fight in peek a boo stance throwing one punch every 15 taken is beyond me.

Garcia did get W but I think Loma and TC would beat him easily. The gap between talent level is a lot bigger than we all thought.

Lol, broner couldn't beat Garcia with a shotgun. It wasn't thrilling because it was a mismatch but when a guy pitching a shutout throws about 300 punches in the last three rounds he's certainly not coasting. Like I've said for years, broner can't beat top fighters but he's very tough.

Of the 2 opposing views above, Saad has it correct.. Caldo is blind as batsh!t.. This was a boxing match where a smaller man jumped up in weight and dominated a bigger man.. He was winning every round so no need to take major risks.. Mikey fought an extremely intelligent and skillful fight and Broner never "outclassed and hurt Garcia." That's foolish crap from a Broner lover.. You don't throw 300 punches in the final 3 rounds when you have a fight sewed up tight... Unless you're determined not to get robbed by judges who Al Haymon paid off.. Then you seal the fight up tight with active rounds.

That was only a 116-112 fight for somebody who was working extremely hard to make a winner out of Broner.. Unlike CJ Ross or Duane Ford those 2 Broner judges finally got a clue.. They had to be thinking, "You know what. We can't give it to AB because we might cause a riot and a non-stop investigation into our backgrounds.. Broner is just not winning this thing and he isn't trying to win. There's no room to call him the winner or the fight a draw."

[gilgamesh]

Broner is the one who made it boring. He was defensive and scared to engage the entire fight. Garcia handled him the way he had to be handled. If Broner had actually fought like he was trying to win it would've been a more exciting fight.

Basically it was kinda dull because one guy was trying to win (Garcia) and one was content to just show up and receive a check (Broner).

Broner put himself into the role of Gatekeeper last night. He'll be the name guy for better fighters to beat on from now on.

[Kalan]

Broner is just not an elite boxer like his backers insist... Mikey has superb timing, defense, and every weapon... Broner is bigger, taller, and stronger and probably takes a punch much better... But he isn't on the level of a 4-Division World Champion.. A couple of his opponents for those "World Titles" were dubious.

[gilgamesh]

Broner is just not an elite boxer like his backers insist... Mikey has superb timing, defense, and every weapon... Broner is bigger, taller, and stronger and probably takes a punch much better... But he isn't on the level of a 4-Division World Champion.. A couple of his opponents for those "World Titles" were dubious.

Also I personally thought that at best he only fought Malignaggi to a draw. I didn't feel like he beat Malignaggi. He never stayed at any weight class long enough to establish himself as the #1 guy anywhere.

[boxing_rocks]

I did start falling asleep somewhere during round 3 or 4 and somehow managed to wake up before they announced the winner.

[crow]

I don't think anyone is saying its the fight of the year, but I've seen many matches that were boring, this wasn't one of them. Wasn't a lot of holding and Garcia kept throwing combos.

It was boring because Garcia was content to win without taking risks. It almost backfired in the last rds when Broner went ballz up.

When a fighter is clearly superior but refuses to take risks to get his opponent out of there, that's boring to me.

Here's the pot calling back the kettle:
https://youtu.be/1pTk1Aa232Y?t=1m57s

[KiwiRider]

It could have been a bit more exciting. I blame Broner for that. He isn't a Floyd, no matter how much he idolises him.
Broner needed to take chances and come forward with a high work rate.
He didn't...
Not Garcia's fault. He won clearly using the sweet science.

[gilgamesh]

I don't think anyone is saying its the fight of the year, but I've seen many matches that were boring, this wasn't one of them. Wasn't a lot of holding and Garcia kept throwing combos.

It was boring because Garcia was content to win without taking risks. It almost backfired in the last rds when Broner went ballz up.

When a fighter is clearly superior but refuses to take risks to get his opponent out of there, that's boring to me.

Here's the pot calling back the kettle:
https://youtu.be/1pTk1Aa232Y?t=1m57s

Garcia fought the perfect fight. He knows when to punch and when not to punch. Broner didn't open up and didn't make a fight of it, that's on him. Garcia did what he needed to do.

Garcia doesn't owe you sh*t crow. He owes it to himself to fight intelligently and get a win. Which he did.

If you wanna blame somebody for the fight being a little dull, blame Broner. He's the one that came to talk and shake his head instead of fight.

[crow]

I suppose that's one way to look at it.

But the body was open all night and Garcia wouldn't/couldn't commit.
Most probably he refuses to fight inside.
Loma will box circles around Mickey.

[Tony1244]

I don't think anyone is saying its the fight of the year, but I've seen many matches that were boring, this wasn't one of them. Wasn't a lot of holding and Garcia kept throwing combos.

It was boring because Garcia was content to win without taking risks. It almost backfired in the last rds when Broner went ballz up.

When a fighter is clearly superior but refuses to take risks to get his opponent out of there, that's boring to me.

Here's the pot calling back the kettle:
https://youtu.be/1pTk1Aa232Y?t=1m57s

Garcia fought the perfect fight. He knows when to punch and when not to punch. Broner didn't open up and didn't make a fight of it, that's on him. Garcia did what he needed to do.

Garcia doesn't owe you sh*t crow. He owes it to himself to fight intelligently and get a win. Which he did.

If you wanna blame somebody for the fight being a little dull, blame Broner. He's the one that came to talk and shake his head instead of fight.

I don't think a fighter should take unnecessary risks. Winning is the #1 objective. True, all athletes are ultimately entertainers, but win first. Garcia was landing consistently. Perhaps give Broner credit for taking solid body and head shots. Perhaps state that Garcia doesn't have mad power. But its not like Garcia was running or holding; he was throwing.

[ElJefe]

Garcia is a textbook boxer-puncher. He's not like Porter/Maidana, it's not in his nature to take 50 punches to land 80 a round. Broner, for all his faults, hasn't been outboxed like he was last night. Garcia deserves credit for that. Mikey has proven that if he's pushed then he can be explosive - ask Zlaticanin. Could he have taken more risks? Probably. Was he wrong to stick to his game plan when it he was clearly outboxing the bigger man? No chance.

[gilgamesh]

I suppose that's one way to look at it.

But the body was open all night and Garcia wouldn't/couldn't commit.
Most probably he refuses to fight inside.
Loma will box circles around Mickey.

He won every round. He couldn't have done any better than he did. Broner is a tough guy, and he fought the majority of the fight in a defensive posture. Even a monstrous puncher is gonna have a hard time looking great against a guy that's just turtling up and not fighting. Hell Tommy Hearns had less than impressive performances against guys like that.

It takes 2 to tango

[gilgamesh]

Garcia is a textbook boxer-puncher. He's not like Porter/Maidana, it's not in his nature to take 50 punches to land 80 a round. Broner, for all his faults, hasn't been outboxed like he was last night. Garcia deserves credit for that. Mikey has proven that if he's pushed then he can be explosive - ask Zlaticanin. Could he have taken more risks? Probably. Was he wrong to stick to his game plan when it he was clearly outboxing the bigger man? No chance.

[Kalan]

Garcia is a textbook boxer-puncher. He's not like Porter/Maidana, it's not in his nature to take 50 punches to land 80 a round. Broner, for all his faults, hasn't been outboxed like he was last night. Garcia deserves credit for that. Mikey has proven that if he's pushed then he can be explosive - ask Zlaticanin. Could he have taken more risks? Probably. Was he wrong to stick to his game plan when it he was clearly outboxing the bigger man? No chance.

Broner shaking his head no.. "nope.. those didn't do sh!t" ... "nope, that one didn't do sh!t" That was the funniest thing about the lopsided fight.

Those punches were scoring dumb assed Broner...You need to throw punches first in order to score connects ... and you wouldn't take the chance to throw anything... If the fight were as close as the majority scores---116-112---it would have been a very exciting fight with a little drama to it.

But even Broner's mom knew he lost.

[gilgamesh]

Garcia is a textbook boxer-puncher. He's not like Porter/Maidana, it's not in his nature to take 50 punches to land 80 a round. Broner, for all his faults, hasn't been outboxed like he was last night. Garcia deserves credit for that. Mikey has proven that if he's pushed then he can be explosive - ask Zlaticanin. Could he have taken more risks? Probably. Was he wrong to stick to his game plan when it he was clearly outboxing the bigger man? No chance.

Broner shaking his head no.. "nope.. those didn't do sh!t" ... "nope, that one didn't do sh!t" That was the funniest thing about the lopsided fight.

Those punches were scoring dumb assed Broner...You need to throw punches first in order to score connects ... and you wouldn't take the chance to throw anything... If the fight were as close as the majority scores---116-112---it would have been a very exciting fight with a little drama to it.

But even Broner's mom even knew he lost.

Yep I had it 120-108, and even made the comment on Twitter last night alluding to what you mention there. "Broner came to talk and shake his head tonight, Garcia came to fight"

For once we agree on something Kalan

[crusader]

He threw almost 70 punches a round and was using every power shot in the book. The lack of fireworks is largely down to Broner being uncompetitive and forced into a shell. Strange to go after Mikey in this one....

[gilgamesh]

He threw almost 70 punches a round and using every power shot in the book. The lack of fireworks is largely down to Broner being uncompetitive and forced into a shell. Strange to go after Mikey in this one....

I wouldn't even say Broner was forced into a shell so much as he seemed to enter the ring with no intention of doing ANYTHING BUT shelling up.

[lazboy]

He threw almost 70 punches a round and was using every power shot in the book. The lack of fireworks is largely down to Broner being uncompetitive and forced into a shell. Strange to go after Mikey in this one....

Yes I agree, we have a thread criticising Garcia who's the one moving up in weight...again. Whereas Broner shelled or tucked up, was backpeddling I would say 80% of the time and threw I believe 400 to Garcia 700 whereas Garcia, a counter puncher stalked him and landed what he could on a guarded backpeddling "safety first" negative Broner. Mikey gave him a lesson and it was a nice clean fight. Intelligence, a cool demeanour and strong fundamental boxing skills prevailed, hes a pleasure to watch.

[crusader]

Aside from Crawford, I'd favour him over everyone at 140 and below...he's so complete and has the tools to deal with any style and attributes he'd be facing.

[Badhusker]

Good fight, obviously not a great fight because Garcia won it so easily.

"Boring" is a ridiculous description, as others have alluded to. If you demand cuts and concussions watch some old ECW tapes.

I was worried though I was going to watch another robbery considering Broner is a homeboy in Brooklyn. Broner can take a very good shot, he deserves credit for that. Excellent performance from Garcia.

Boring, as i said

And that's not the first time he's been in boring fights.
He gets guys out of there by sheer physical qualities; but when faced with another talent able to push him, he plays it safe.

As Holyfield rightly said, Ali would make you miss, but at the end he would always make you pay.

And i remember Mickey pointing the finger at Canelo for not being able to get Cotto out of there, or to hurt him clear.

Pot calls kettle.

Al least we have Gennady, Kudryashov, Lomachenko to look forward to.
And Matthysse is coming back.

Boring? You are nuts. Just because someone doesn't stand flat footed and trade shots to the head, it doesn't mean it is boring The ones watching and hoping for that are stupid. Go watch two drunks fight in a bar if you want that.

Personally I thought Garcia should have been a little more cautious the last few rounds than fight like he did. Broner carries power late and generally finishes strong. Garcia was still very busy, boxing to the end handing Broner's ass to him. I went on a limb and stupidly picked Broner hoping to make up for stupidly picking Pacquio over Horn. I guess I should be happy I'm in the middle. Mikey Garcia looked great, much better than I expected.

[crow]

He won every round. He couldn't have done any better than he did. Broner is a tough guy, and he fought the majority of the fight in a defensive posture.
It takes 2 to tango

Broner was a little weaker (weight cut) than vs Maidana; but he did shell the same negative way back then, which didn't prevent Maidana finding the openings and putting a beating on him.

When a guy shells up, you go to the body and you punch with him and you get him out of there; that's what Gennady, Kud, Matthysse, Loma achieve to do.

If Garcia wants to play it safe, that's his choice.
But don't come back criticizing others for not doing enough.
You want to win without taking too much risks/damage. Just admit it and stop with the fake warrior bullskirt.

Garcia will be like this for the rest of his career, mark my words.

[Kalan]

Mikey has an extremely high KO ratio of 81%... He definitely is NOT safety first... This is his 4th weight division so that billiant KO record will diminish against guys who are bigger and stronger... Trainers always tell you NOT to look for the KO anyway... Why??? ... It gets you knocked out.

Holyfield shelled up against Lewis.. Lennox was a lot bigger and taller, with a much longer reach -- and he took what Evander gave him.. He outpunched Holy by a wide margin -- and BTW Lennox did the same thing to somebody named Mavrovic. That fight didn't set the world on fire either.

People criticized Hagler for not trying to knock little Duran out.. Hagler even started dancing around the ring until boos from the fans changed his mind. "I heard the reaction of the fans.. I guess they expect me to fight a certain way." But he never ramped up the offense a whole lot in a non-classic.

Oscar De La Hoya vs Floyd Mayweather wasn't a classic either.. Even his trainer Freddie Roach criticized Oscar for not throwing.

On the other hand Sugar Ray Robinson tried to knock a bigger, stronger man out -- Joey Maxim kept telling SRR that he couldn't punch "You're not breaking popcorn Ray" ... By the 13th round Robinson was so tired he fell down without getting hit.

Billy Conn was another boxer who tried to knock a bigger man out.. Reporters asked Billy "Do you think it was wise to trade punches with Louis when you were ahead on points?" ... "Well it doesn't look so brilliant in retrospect does it??? But what's the sense in being Irish if you can't be a little thick."

[SaadOffTheDeck]

Lewis wisely refused to engage with holyfield. Everytime he did he got cracked.

[Impractical Poster]

He won every round. He couldn't have done any better than he did. Broner is a tough guy, and he fought the majority of the fight in a defensive posture.
It takes 2 to tango

Broner was a little weaker (weight cut) than vs Maidana; but he did shell the same negative way back then, which didn't prevent Maidana finding the openings and putting a beating on him.

When a guy shells up, you go to the body and you punch with him and you get him out of there; that's what Gennady, Kud, Matthysse, Loma achieve to do.

If Garcia wants to play it safe, that's his choice.
But don't come back criticizing others for not doing enough.
You want to win without taking too much risks/damage. Just admit it and stop with the fake warrior bullskirt.

Garcia will be like this for the rest of his career, mark my words.

I get it. You are a Broner fan.