Keith & Erroll destroy Mikey

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Re: Keith & Erroll destroy Mikey

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Mikey looks maxed out at 140.
Unless it's a freak show there won't be a 147 kick off between this lot.
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Loma v Garcia ?
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Jip wrote:
gilgamesh wrote:Mikey won every round last night. There ain't really much to criticize in his performance. He did what he needed to do and controlled the fight every step of the way.
It shouldve been his BREAKTHRU fight. Floyd needed a phenomenal ppv performance vs gatti. He did it. Mikey needed a big performance against broner to enter the heart of fans and to enter the ppv door. He won, but it wasnt enough. Broner is weak, not much to offer, mikey shouldve atleast try to end in a spectacular way. Fans would be screaming for a big time ppv showtime wirh against crawford, thurman or spence, now its just mmeeeehhhh.... :confused:
Haha. Floyd did as expected against gatti. Gatti was wel out of his prime and weight class with zero defense. He had already been taken to the limit and lost to an average fighter with no power .
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Luckybattles wrote:
Jip wrote:
gilgamesh wrote:Mikey won every round last night. There ain't really much to criticize in his performance. He did what he needed to do and controlled the fight every step of the way.
It shouldve been his BREAKTHRU fight. Floyd needed a phenomenal ppv performance vs gatti. He did it. Mikey needed a big performance against broner to enter the heart of fans and to enter the ppv door. He won, but it wasnt enough. Broner is weak, not much to offer, mikey shouldve atleast try to end in a spectacular way. Fans would be screaming for a big time ppv showtime wirh against crawford, thurman or spence, now its just mmeeeehhhh.... :confused:
Haha. Floyd did as expected against gatti. Gatti was wel out of his prime and weight class with zero defense. He had already been taken to the limit and lost to an average fighter with no power .
A lot of people gave Gatti a good chance in that fight. I remember laughing at them. Certainly not the majority, that ole punching bag was just popular enough for people to ignore he couldn't fight at that level.
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No one wants to fight Mikey ?
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Evander wrote:No one wants to fight Mikey ?
What? He just fought.
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Move quick here :bag:
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Quick is fine, preferably it would make sense. :TU:
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SaadOffTheDeck wrote:
Luckybattles wrote:
Jip wrote:
It shouldve been his BREAKTHRU fight. Floyd needed a phenomenal ppv performance vs gatti. He did it.
Haha. Floyd did as expected against gatti. Gatti was wel out of his prime and weight class with zero defense. He had already been taken to the limit and lost to an average fighter with no power .
A lot of people gave Gatti a good chance in that fight. I remember laughing at them. Certainly not the majority, that ole punching bag was just popular enough for people to ignore he couldn't fight at that level.
Floyd Mayweather was not only on the proverbial financial B-side when he faced Arturo Gatti, but he was also facing an opponent that The RING rated as the second best 140lb-er (after Kostya Tszyu) at the time of their fight (FYI – Money May was only ranked fourth).

We also need to remember that when Arturo Gatti fought Floyd, ‘Thunder’ held the WBC world super lightweight title (defending it against former world champions like Leonard Dorin and Jesse James Leija) and it had also been 4½ years since he’d last suffered a clear-cut defeat.

For sure, a lot of the hardcore boxing fraternity expected a victory for Floyd, but the fight was almost certainly not considered a mismatch by any means, hence the reason why it managed to generate 340K PPV buys (a pretty impressive figure in comparison to current standards).
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Evander wrote:Spence has jab speed and age.
Garcia has elusiveness accuracy and follow through.

Age isn't a factor. Both are quick and ultra skilled. Spence's biggest advantage is his body work, reach, size, and strength. He is about 4 or 5 inches taller and probably has about that much reach advantage. Not a good match-up for Mikey. His punches wouldn't bother Spence, and he would just keep coming, and probably stop Garcia.
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Loma wasn't convinced.
“I did see his fight,” Lomachenko said through a translator. “His trainer, Robert Garcia, at one point mentioned Mikey Garcia is a fighter of ‘A’ class. I didn’t see anything during that bout where he was a Class-A, outstanding fighter. Yes, he won the fight. Yes, he did everything to win the fight, [the way] it needs to be. But I haven’t seen nothing outstanding. I haven’t seen him being an A-Class fighter. And it was slow. I almost got to sleep.”

:lol: I almost got to sleep :lol:

Another classic Loma :bow:
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KiwiRider wrote:Loma wasn't convinced.
“I did see his fight,” Lomachenko said through a translator. “His trainer, Robert Garcia, at one point mentioned Mikey Garcia is a fighter of ‘A’ class. I didn’t see anything during that bout where he was a Class-A, outstanding fighter. Yes, he won the fight. Yes, he did everything to win the fight, [the way] it needs to be. But I haven’t seen nothing outstanding. I haven’t seen him being an A-Class fighter. And it was slow. I almost got to sleep.”

:lol: I almost got to sleep :lol:

Another classic Loma :bow:
Imo, Loma saying he wasn't impressed saying MG is not an A Class fighter, and Top Rank saying he isn't a "name", clearly shows they don't want the fight because it is too risky. They obviously still hate MG for leaving them, and don't want him to make any money against one of their guys. Anyone that remotely knows boxing can see MG would be a handful for anyone at 135-140....including Loma and Crawford. I would pick MG to beat Lomo and lose to Crawford, but in close fights.
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Loma should watch him take care of Salido, perhaps he'll be impressed with that. :roll:
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SaadOffTheDeck wrote:Loma should watch him take care of Salido, perhaps he'll be impressed with that. :roll:
I said the exact same thing.

Whilst Loma is exceptional, the salido fight showed he needed a shade of match making and they couldn't be completely reckless. Garcia is a real live fight for Loma. Skills, speed and variety go to Loma, power, aggression and size go to Garcia
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Re: Keith & Erroll destroy Mikey

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In response to the title...

I'd back spence fairly confidently to beat Garcia. Looking at the level he was able to fight at vs brook was impressive. Speed and experience go to Garcia, but range, power, size go to spence. To beat spence you've either got to be able to match him physically or be an exceptional mover. I don't think garcia is either, with respect as he's a top fighter, but 147 is a different world to the divisions he's fought at. AB can vouch for that.

Thurman, well Garcia has a chance. He's certainly more skilled than Thurman and I'm confident he'd be sharper and ahead early. It's if Thurman could impose his size and strength as it went on
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