Mickey Garcia is a boring, safety first fighter

[Mexi-Box]

Broner is the one who made it boring. He was defensive and scared to engage the entire fight. Garcia handled him the way he had to be handled. If Broner had actually fought like he was trying to win it would've been a more exciting fight.

Basically it was kinda dull because one guy was trying to win (Garcia) and one was content to just show up and receive a check (Broner).

Broner put himself into the role of Gatekeeper last night. He'll be the name guy for better fighters to beat on from now on.

Broner didn't give up. He was trying, but Garcia is upper-tier elite. Broner came in the best shape of his career and the most focused. Garcia just made Broner look like a bum because he's that good.

Broner would've been stopped if he had opened up. Garcia hurt him, and we all know how Broner gets if he doesn't respect your power. Broner walks you down if your power doesn't deter him like he did when he was at 135 and down.

Broner was just too negative throughout the fight. People need to remember that Mikey doesn't make his money off of being a pressure fighter. He's an elite counterpuncher with power in both hands by trade. This fight was exactly like the Burgos fight where one doesn't want to engage for fear of being stopped and Mikey had to pressure and cut off the ring. Again, Mikey shows that he has an amazingly versatile arsenal, though. Dude can pressure and cutoff the ring like a damn surgeon.

I definitely don't think Mikey should stay at 140 lbs., though. I think he should move back down to 135 lbs. and grow into 140 lbs.

[gilgamesh]

Broner is the one who made it boring. He was defensive and scared to engage the entire fight. Garcia handled him the way he had to be handled. If Broner had actually fought like he was trying to win it would've been a more exciting fight.

Basically it was kinda dull because one guy was trying to win (Garcia) and one was content to just show up and receive a check (Broner).

Broner put himself into the role of Gatekeeper last night. He'll be the name guy for better fighters to beat on from now on.

Broner didn't give up. He was trying, but Garcia is upper-tier elite. Broner came in the best shape of his career and the most focused. Garcia just made Broner look like a bum because he's that good.

Broner would've been stopped if he had opened up. Garcia hurt him, and we all know how Broner gets if he doesn't respect your power. Broner walks you down if your power doesn't deter him like he did when he was at 135 and down.

Broner was just too negative throughout the fight. People need to remember that Mikey doesn't make his money off of being a pressure fighter. He's an elite counterpuncher with power in both hands by trade. This fight was exactly like the Burgos fight where one doesn't want to engage for fear of being stopped and Mikey had to pressure and cut off the ring. Again, Mikey shows that he has an amazingly versatile arsenal, though. Dude can pressure and cutoff the ring like a damn surgeon.

I definitely don't think Mikey should stay at 140 lbs., though. I think he should move back down to 135 lbs. and grow into 140 lbs.

No growing necessary. He's grown into 140 pounds already. That's why he fought there a few days ago and won every round. One fight there and he's already the #2 guy in the division.

If he goes back to Lightweight to face Linares that's cool by me, but if he stays at 140 and takes on Crawford that's just as good if not cooler. Garcia has a lot of options right now.

Hell he even said he'd go to 147 (in his next fight) if the right offer came along.

[Mexi-Box]

Broner is the one who made it boring. He was defensive and scared to engage the entire fight. Garcia handled him the way he had to be handled. If Broner had actually fought like he was trying to win it would've been a more exciting fight.

Basically it was kinda dull because one guy was trying to win (Garcia) and one was content to just show up and receive a check (Broner).

Broner put himself into the role of Gatekeeper last night. He'll be the name guy for better fighters to beat on from now on.

Broner didn't give up. He was trying, but Garcia is upper-tier elite. Broner came in the best shape of his career and the most focused. Garcia just made Broner look like a bum because he's that good.

Broner would've been stopped if he had opened up. Garcia hurt him, and we all know how Broner gets if he doesn't respect your power. Broner walks you down if your power doesn't deter him like he did when he was at 135 and down.

Broner was just too negative throughout the fight. People need to remember that Mikey doesn't make his money off of being a pressure fighter. He's an elite counterpuncher with power in both hands by trade. This fight was exactly like the Burgos fight where one doesn't want to engage for fear of being stopped and Mikey had to pressure and cut off the ring. Again, Mikey shows that he has an amazingly versatile arsenal, though. Dude can pressure and cutoff the ring like a damn surgeon.

I definitely don't think Mikey should stay at 140 lbs., though. I think he should move back down to 135 lbs. and grow into 140 lbs.

No growing necessary. He's grown into 140 pounds already. That's why he fought there a few days ago and won every round. One fight there and he's already the #2 guy in the division.

If he goes back to Lightweight to face Linares that's cool by me, but if he stays at 140 and takes on Crawford that's just as good if not cooler. Garcia has a lot of options right now.

Hell he even said he'd go to 147 (in his next fight) if the right offer came along.

He looked soft at 140 lbs. I think that's his utmost limit, but I also think he needs to bring in a S&C coach. Not for any stamina crap, but to get him to grow. He looked great and huge when he was working with Ariza. Looked stocky and powerful against Martinez and Burgos.

I also think this is probably Broner's worst loss. He was trying his hardest here to win, and he came up short. The Porter fight looked more like Broner was looking for a paycheck, but here, he moved his camp, made weight, and did everything right. I think this is a soul taking loss.

[gilgamesh]

He looked soft at 140 lbs. I think that's his utmost limit, but I also think he needs to bring in a S&C coach. Not for any stamina crap, but to get him to grow. He looked great and huge when he was working with Ariza. Looked stocky and powerful against Martinez and Burgos.

I also think this is probably Broner's worst loss. He was trying his hardest here to win, and he came up short. The Porter fight looked more like Broner was looking for a paycheck, but here, he moved his camp, made weight, and did everything right. I think this is a soul taking loss.

Broner ABSOLUTELY was NOT trying his hardest to win. He was scared of getting countered and kept his hands to himself through a great deal of the fight. If he was trying as hard as he could to win he'd have taken more chances...don't get me wrong that probably would've resulted in him getting knocked down or out so I can see WHY he didn't do that, I'm just sayin' he didn't do that.

[Mexi-Box]

He looked soft at 140 lbs. I think that's his utmost limit, but I also think he needs to bring in a S&C coach. Not for any stamina crap, but to get him to grow. He looked great and huge when he was working with Ariza. Looked stocky and powerful against Martinez and Burgos.

I also think this is probably Broner's worst loss. He was trying his hardest here to win, and he came up short. The Porter fight looked more like Broner was looking for a paycheck, but here, he moved his camp, made weight, and did everything right. I think this is a soul taking loss.

Broner ABSOLUTELY was NOT trying his hardest to win. He was scared of getting countered and kept his hands to himself through a great deal of the fight. If he was trying as hard as he could to win he'd have taken more chances...don't get me wrong that probably would've resulted in him getting knocked down or out so I can see WHY he didn't do that, I'm just sayin' he didn't do that.

He faced a great fighter, and he got shutout. Still, he tried his hardest to win. I've never seen Broner come in so determined. As I said, it was a soul-taking loss.

Mikey just offered no give. Mikey gave him no openings to find any success. Pretty much, Mikey took his damn soul in that ring.

[gilgamesh]

He looked soft at 140 lbs. I think that's his utmost limit, but I also think he needs to bring in a S&C coach. Not for any stamina crap, but to get him to grow. He looked great and huge when he was working with Ariza. Looked stocky and powerful against Martinez and Burgos.

I also think this is probably Broner's worst loss. He was trying his hardest here to win, and he came up short. The Porter fight looked more like Broner was looking for a paycheck, but here, he moved his camp, made weight, and did everything right. I think this is a soul taking loss.

Broner ABSOLUTELY was NOT trying his hardest to win. He was scared of getting countered and kept his hands to himself through a great deal of the fight. If he was trying as hard as he could to win he'd have taken more chances...don't get me wrong that probably would've resulted in him getting knocked down or out so I can see WHY he didn't do that, I'm just sayin' he didn't do that.

He faced a great fighter, and he got shutout. Still, he tried his hardest to win. I've never seen Broner come in so determined. As I said, it was a soul-taking loss.

Mikey just offered no give. Mikey gave him no openings to find any success. Pretty much, Mikey took his damn soul in that ring.

He absolutely DID NOT try his hardest to win. Barely throwing punches and spending 90% of the round in retreat ain't gonna see you beat hardly anybody. He looked like a fighter that showed up to survive and cash a check to me.

That's no fault of Mikey's...Mikey did what he had to do, but that's what Broner's effort looked like to me.

[Mexi-Box]

Broner ABSOLUTELY was NOT trying his hardest to win. He was scared of getting countered and kept his hands to himself through a great deal of the fight. If he was trying as hard as he could to win he'd have taken more chances...don't get me wrong that probably would've resulted in him getting knocked down or out so I can see WHY he didn't do that, I'm just sayin' he didn't do that.

He faced a great fighter, and he got shutout. Still, he tried his hardest to win. I've never seen Broner come in so determined. As I said, it was a soul-taking loss.

Mikey just offered no give. Mikey gave him no openings to find any success. Pretty much, Mikey took his damn soul in that ring.

He absolutely DID NOT try his hardest to win. Barely throwing punches and spending 90% of the round in retreat ain't gonna see you beat hardly anybody. He looked like a fighter that showed up to survive and cash a check to me.

That's no fault of Mikey's...Mikey did what he had to do, but that's what Broner's effort looked like to me.

It was 100% Mikey's doing too. Broner didn't want to get stopped was all. It was like what Burgos did when he fought Mikey. Broner doesn't show up in the best shape of his life for no reason for this fight. He was there to win, but Mikey was just too good.

[SaadOffTheDeck]

He looked soft at 140 lbs. I think that's his utmost limit, but I also think he needs to bring in a S&C coach. Not for any stamina crap, but to get him to grow. He looked great and huge when he was working with Ariza. Looked stocky and powerful against Martinez and Burgos.

I also think this is probably Broner's worst loss. He was trying his hardest here to win, and he came up short. The Porter fight looked more like Broner was looking for a paycheck, but here, he moved his camp, made weight, and did everything right. I think this is a soul taking loss.

Broner ABSOLUTELY was NOT trying his hardest to win. He was scared of getting countered and kept his hands to himself through a great deal of the fight. If he was trying as hard as he could to win he'd have taken more chances...don't get me wrong that probably would've resulted in him getting knocked down or out so I can see WHY he didn't do that, I'm just sayin' he didn't do that.

Sure he was, he fought like he always does. Have you watched him before? He's not capable of counterpunching and he has poor defense. The only way he can defend himself against someone like Mikey is by covering up.

[crow]

Again, Mikey shows that he has an amazingly versatile arsenal, though. Dude can pressure and cutoff the ring like a damn surgeon.

it was a soul-taking loss..

We must not have watched the same fight.

The last 4 rds were pretty even, with Broner's soul looking ok to me.
Rather it was Mikey that seemed to have run out of ideas; Broner's tank appeared fuller than Mikey's, since Mikey, with his "amazing versatile arsenal" couldn't/wouldn't hurt him to the body all night even though Broner was wearing earmuffs.

The blueprint to give Mikey trouble seems to rush him and fight at close range. If you try to box him, he will shut you out on the cards.

A fighter like Loma who knows how to get in and out will beat him for sure.

“I did see his fight,” Lomachenko said through a translator. “His trainer, Robert Garcia, at one point mentioned Mikey Garcia is a fighter of ‘A’ class. I didn’t see anything during that bout where he was a Class-A, outstanding fighter. Yes, he won the fight. Yes, he did everything to win the fight, [the way] it needs to be. But I haven’t seen nothing outstanding. I haven’t seen him being an A-Class fighter. And it was slow. I almost got to sleep.”

Todd duBoef, president for Top Rank Inc. (Lomachenko’s promoter), joined Lomachenko on Monday in downplaying Garcia’s performance.

“I saw the fight, believe it or not, and I didn’t think it was an incredible performance,” duBoef said. “I thought he out-pointed Broner, but I didn’t think it was a scintillating fight. I mean, I thought he won the fight clearly. But I wasn’t saying, ‘Oh, my God! The masses are clamoring for Mikey Garcia.’

“I’m being honest with you. I think he had a nice fight. He fought well. Broner wasn’t throwing a lot of punches and I thought Mikey did a good job. But a big name? A big name is Mikey Garcia now? I don’t see that.”

[Mexi-Box]

Again, Mikey shows that he has an amazingly versatile arsenal, though. Dude can pressure and cutoff the ring like a damn surgeon.

it was a soul-taking loss..

We must not have watched the same fight.

The last 4 rds were pretty even, with Broner's soul looking ok to me.
Rather it was Mikey that seemed to have run out of ideas; Broner's tank appeared fuller than Mikey's, since Mikey, with his "amazing versatile arsenal" couldn't/wouldn't hurt him to the body all night even though Broner was wearing earmuffs.

The blueprint to give Mikey trouble seems to rush him and fight at close range. If you try to box him, he will shut you out on the cards.

A fighter like Loma who knows how to get in and out will beat him for sure.

“I did see his fight,” Lomachenko said through a translator. “His trainer, Robert Garcia, at one point mentioned Mikey Garcia is a fighter of ‘A’ class. I didn’t see anything during that bout where he was a Class-A, outstanding fighter. Yes, he won the fight. Yes, he did everything to win the fight, [the way] it needs to be. But I haven’t seen nothing outstanding. I haven’t seen him being an A-Class fighter. And it was slow. I almost got to sleep.”

Todd duBoef, president for Top Rank Inc. (Lomachenko’s promoter), joined Lomachenko on Monday in downplaying Garcia’s performance.

“I saw the fight, believe it or not, and I didn’t think it was an incredible performance,” duBoef said. “I thought he out-pointed Broner, but I didn’t think it was a scintillating fight. I mean, I thought he won the fight clearly. But I wasn’t saying, ‘Oh, my God! The masses are clamoring for Mikey Garcia.’

“I’m being honest with you. I think he had a nice fight. He fought well. Broner wasn’t throwing a lot of punches and I thought Mikey did a good job. But a big name? A big name is Mikey Garcia now? I don’t see that.”

You're blind, no they weren't. Mikey won every round. You could argue maybe one round for Broner. Mikey threw the most effective punches throughout the fight, though. I'm not even going to read the rest. You've done yourself a disservice even making that statement.

[crow]

Again, Mikey shows that he has an amazingly versatile arsenal, though. Dude can pressure and cutoff the ring like a damn surgeon.

it was a soul-taking loss..

We must not have watched the same fight.

The last 4 rds were pretty even, with Broner's soul looking ok to me.
Rather it was Mikey that seemed to have run out of ideas; Broner's tank appeared fuller than Mikey's, since Mikey, with his "amazing versatile arsenal" couldn't/wouldn't hurt him to the body all night even though Broner was wearing earmuffs.

You're blind, no they weren't. Mikey won every round. You could argue maybe one round for Broner. Mikey threw the most effective punches throughout the fight, though. I'm not even going to read the rest. You've done yourself a disservice even making that statement.

http://www.eyeonthering.com/boxing/adri ... key-garcia

Now, apologise to me and the forum.

it was a soul-taking loss..

You can't take Broner's soul, cause he simply doesn't have one.
You can only bludgeon him repeatedly to the canvas, like Maidana did. Otherwise, like Monthy Python's Holy Grail, he will get back into your face claiming you didn't beat him.
Your Mexican friend failed clearly in that department.

[Ossyrules]

Garcias not a boring fighter at all, the fights I've seen have been good value. Garcia vs Broner wasn't all that exciting but no fighter produces gatti vs ward every fight.

[Mexi-Box]

We must not have watched the same fight.

The last 4 rds were pretty even, with Broner's soul looking ok to me.
Rather it was Mikey that seemed to have run out of ideas; Broner's tank appeared fuller than Mikey's, since Mikey, with his "amazing versatile arsenal" couldn't/wouldn't hurt him to the body all night even though Broner was wearing earmuffs.

You're blind, no they weren't. Mikey won every round. You could argue maybe one round for Broner. Mikey threw the most effective punches throughout the fight, though. I'm not even going to read the rest. You've done yourself a disservice even making that statement.

http://www.eyeonthering.com/boxing/adri ... key-garcia

Now, apologise to me and the forum.

it was a soul-taking loss..

You can't take Broner's soul, cause he simply doesn't have one.
You can only bludgeon him repeatedly to the canvas, like Maidana did. Otherwise, like Monthy Python's Holy Grail, he will get back into your face claiming you didn't beat him.
Your Mexican friend failed clearly in that department.

This site and using casual fan garbage to defend their stance. It's even more laughable.

[crow]

The captcha in reaction to my post is uncalled for.

I'm not even going to read the rest. You've done yourself a disservice even making that statement.

[ValMar]

I would like to see hundreds of "boring like MG" fighters.

[TheGingerBomber]

Considering Garcia just went up a weight again, you really are one dumb basta.

[Tanzio]

Considering Garcia just went up a weight again, you really are one dumb basta.

Some of us deduce that the crowbar protruding from his skull has something to do with it.

[caldo2025]

It was one of those fights where both guys stock went down. Garcia fans before fight will stay fans and say it was "textbook". The rest will call as it was, boring and unappealing stylistically.

in the rare spots Broner came forward, he outclassed Garcia and hurt him. If Broner ever had a top chief second, he'd be unbeatable. How anyone is dumb enough to think they can win a fight in peek a boo stance throwing one punch every 15 taken is beyond me.

Garcia did get W but I think Loma and TC would beat him easily. The gap between talent level is a lot bigger than we all thought.

Lol, broner couldn't beat Garcia with a shotgun. It wasn't thrilling because it was a mismatch but when a guy pitching a shutout throws about 300 punches in the last three rounds he's certainly not coasting. Like I've said for years, broner can't beat top fighters but he's very tough.

Of the 2 opposing views above, Saad has it correct.. Caldo is blind as batsh!t.. This was a boxing match where a smaller man jumped up in weight and dominated a bigger man.. He was winning every round so no need to take major risks.. Mikey fought an extremely intelligent and skillful fight and Broner never "outclassed and hurt Garcia." That's foolish crap from a Broner lover.. You don't throw 300 punches in the final 3 rounds when you have a fight sewed up tight... Unless you're determined not to get robbed by judges who Al Haymon paid off.. Then you seal the fight up tight with active rounds.

That was only a 116-112 fight for somebody who was working extremely hard to make a winner out of Broner.. Unlike CJ Ross or Duane Ford those 2 Broner judges finally got a clue.. They had to be thinking, "You know what. We can't give it to AB because we might cause a riot and a non-stop investigation into our backgrounds.. Broner is just not winning this thing and he isn't trying to win. There's no room to call him the winner or the fight a draw."

I'm sure Saad's super pumped up about Kalan agreeing with him. Someone historically clueless about the sport and only cares about obscure aging Russian heavyweights with drug addiction.

My view came from a fan without a dog in the fight. Had I been a Mikey fan, I'd too be happy about a victory. But as a fan of the sport, the fight sucked and I blame Broner for it mostly. But either way, the fight was disappointing and nowhere near the fight most thought it would be. Garcia' power was non existent at that weight. He shouldn't move any higher because he's too small and weak for Crawford and Loma would destroy him at any spot on scale. Period. Like the one Kalan just got pads for.