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Very happy about that. Going to be a good one.
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p4p1 wrote:So Bisping vs GSP is back on. What a effing joke.
I thought that was a horrible move on Dana's part. Maia is dangerous as hell, yet he wants Woodley to go balls out on the guy. Whatever man. Woodley has had a rough go of it his last 3 fights and still won. Wonderboy and Maia might just be the hardest fighters to look good against. I like the GSP/Bisping fight, but I don't like how he snatched it from Woodley like that.
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Imagine how boring of a fight GSP v Woodley would be? No thanks.
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Tomasino wrote:Imagine how boring of a fight GSP v Woodley would be? No thanks.
Would be better than Woodley's last three fights. Woodley has had a tough go of it lately. I think even GSP would have looked crappy against Maia. Woodley/GSP would be pretty interesting.
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Impractical Poster wrote:
Tomasino wrote:Imagine how boring of a fight GSP v Woodley would be? No thanks.
Would be better than Woodley's last three fights. Woodley has had a tough go of it lately. I think even GSP would have looked crappy against Maia. Woodley/GSP would be pretty interesting.

Even GSP? Did you watch his title defences? Woodleys last three have been terrible and he is as much to blame as his challengers. Him and GSP would stink the joint out to high heaven. George was great but he was boring as hell after Serra KOd him.
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Tomasino wrote:
Impractical Poster wrote:
Tomasino wrote:Imagine how boring of a fight GSP v Woodley would be? No thanks.
Would be better than Woodley's last three fights. Woodley has had a tough go of it lately. I think even GSP would have looked crappy against Maia. Woodley/GSP would be pretty interesting.

Even GSP? Did you watch his title defences? Woodleys last three have been terrible and he is as much to blame as his challengers. Him and GSP would stink the joint out to high heaven. George was great but he was boring as hell after Serra KOd him.
I don't think it would stink. Given their styles, it would be very interesting. Woodley has very good takedown defense, it would most liely end up as a stand up battle. Woodley wouldn't be as hesitant because GSP doesn't have the BJJ anywhere near Maia. It would be good. Probably a bit like Big Rig/GSP.
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Impractical Poster wrote:
Tomasino wrote:
Impractical Poster wrote: Would be better than Woodley's last three fights. Woodley has had a tough go of it lately. I think even GSP would have looked crappy against Maia. Woodley/GSP would be pretty interesting.

Even GSP? Did you watch his title defences? Woodleys last three have been terrible and he is as much to blame as his challengers. Him and GSP would stink the joint out to high heaven. George was great but he was boring as hell after Serra KOd him.
I don't think it would stink. Given their styles, it would be very interesting. Woodley has very good takedown defense, it would most liely end up as a stand up battle. Woodley wouldn't be as hesitant because GSP doesn't have the BJJ anywhere near Maia. It would be good. Probably a bit like Big Rig/GSP.

I don't see it like that at all. Once they both negate the takedowns, we are left with stand up resembling Woodley v Thompson. Rounds decided on one or two scrappy, glancing strikes. I'm guessing Dana sees it similar hence scrapping it.
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Tomasino wrote:
Impractical Poster wrote:
Tomasino wrote:

Even GSP? Did you watch his title defences? Woodleys last three have been terrible and he is as much to blame as his challengers. Him and GSP would stink the joint out to high heaven. George was great but he was boring as hell after Serra KOd him.
I don't think it would stink. Given their styles, it would be very interesting. Woodley has very good takedown defense, it would most liely end up as a stand up battle. Woodley wouldn't be as hesitant because GSP doesn't have the BJJ anywhere near Maia. It would be good. Probably a bit like Big Rig/GSP.

I don't see it like that at all. Once they both negate the takedowns, we are left with stand up resembling Woodley v Thompson. Rounds decided on one or two scrappy, glancing strikes. I'm guessing Dana sees it similar hence scrapping it.
I don't see it like that. Dana took it away from Woodley as punishment. GSP would be throwing out a jab like noboby's business. They both bring dynamics that would mesh well together. But, I understand why you would think it would be a snoozer. When GSP could, he would lay on top of his opponents for the duration on the bout. But, like you said, their wrestling would negate the takedowns and it would primarily be a standup bout. I just think it would be more interesting than you do.
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Impractical Poster wrote:
Tomasino wrote:
Impractical Poster wrote: I don't think it would stink. Given their styles, it would be very interesting. Woodley has very good takedown defense, it would most liely end up as a stand up battle. Woodley wouldn't be as hesitant because GSP doesn't have the BJJ anywhere near Maia. It would be good. Probably a bit like Big Rig/GSP.

I don't see it like that at all. Once they both negate the takedowns, we are left with stand up resembling Woodley v Thompson. Rounds decided on one or two scrappy, glancing strikes. I'm guessing Dana sees it similar hence scrapping it.
I don't see it like that. Dana took it away from Woodley as punishment. GSP would be throwing out a jab like noboby's business. They both bring dynamics that would mesh well together. But, I understand why you would think it would be a snoozer. When GSP could, he would lay on top of his opponents for the duration on the bout. But, like you said, their wrestling would negate the takedowns and it would primarily be a standup bout. I just think it would be more interesting than you do.

I'd love to be wrong here but George and Woodley never surprise me with work rate on the feet. Very technical, very safety first. I can see Woodley keeping his title a while using stalling tactics, kinda like GSP did.
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Impractical Poster wrote:I don't see it like that. Dana took it away from Woodley as punishment. GSP would be throwing out a jab like noboby's business. They both bring dynamics that would mesh well together. But, I understand why you would think it would be a snoozer. When GSP could, he would lay on top of his opponents for the duration on the bout. But, like you said, their wrestling would negate the takedowns and it would primarily be a standup bout. I just think it would be more interesting than you do.
I think it was never on the cards. GSP is deciding who to fight, not Dana, imo.
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It was Bisping's fight first. I'm beyond tired of Woodley's whining.
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Woodley doesn't deserve the money that comes with the GSP fight. He has to be the whinyest champ the UFC have ever had. He's so woke though :roll:

I'm sure Dana and the UFC are regretting letting him sit out for 18 months because he 'earned his shot' after he got split decision win over Kelvin and being on a giant two fight win streak.

I miss the days of Lawler being champ.

Anyway Bisping vs GSP will at least be more exciting that Woodley v GSP. Bisping I think will win, either way Whittaker will knock them both out. GSP won't fight Whittaker if he wins though.
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Not been an avid follower of womens mma but this Markos/Grasso fight is one of the better scraps ive seen. Grasso has some good skills and done well against a bigger stronger opponent.

Coupla days ago was a bit crook and found myself laid out watching midday tv. Walker Texas Ranger came on and was suprised to see Frank Shamrock as the bad guy :lol: suffice to say he was a much better fighter than actor :OhYes:
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I never took to women's boxing, but women's mma is amazing. They're way more intense than the men. Really looking forward to tuf with the 125 title up for grabs.
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Really fun card last night. I'm a Grasso fan, that fight was disappointing; she needs a new camp because she's not improving. Some great knockouts, nice to see Rani get another sub, and a great win for Pettis.
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Ferguson/Lee for the interim belt. The worst thing about Mayweather/Mcgregor is no UFC cards and not really any news to interfere with the farce.
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i thought Khabib v Ferguson was happening at 217?
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p4p1 wrote:i thought Khabib v Ferguson was happening at 217?
White said Khabib isn't ready to fight, this is most likely going down at 216.
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SaadOffTheDeck wrote:
p4p1 wrote:i thought Khabib v Ferguson was happening at 217?
White said Khabib isn't ready to fight, this is most likely going down at 216.
Khabib seemed to be fine for 217 but not 216. It seems the UFC is just wanting a 'title' fight for 216. Obviously Khabib vs Ferguson is the fight to make but as much as I like Khabib this is his own doing anyway and I can't blame the UFC for not waiting for him even if it's just a few weeks.

Dudes probably the best fighter at the weight and deserves a shot but he can't(and no fighter should) dictate when, where and who he wants to fight.
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p4p1 wrote:
SaadOffTheDeck wrote:
p4p1 wrote:i thought Khabib v Ferguson was happening at 217?
White said Khabib isn't ready to fight, this is most likely going down at 216.
Khabib seemed to be fine for 217 but not 216. It seems the UFC is just wanting a 'title' fight for 216. Obviously Khabib vs Ferguson is the fight to make but as much as I like Khabib this is his own doing anyway and I can't blame the UFC for not waiting for him even if it's just a few weeks.

Dudes probably the best fighter at the weight and deserves a shot but he can't(and no fighter should) dictate when, where and who he wants to fight.
Especially not now, I'd rather see him make weight for another fight than suffer through another cancellation of the fight.
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SaadOffTheDeck wrote:
p4p1 wrote:
SaadOffTheDeck wrote:
White said Khabib isn't ready to fight, this is most likely going down at 216.
Khabib seemed to be fine for 217 but not 216. It seems the UFC is just wanting a 'title' fight for 216. Obviously Khabib vs Ferguson is the fight to make but as much as I like Khabib this is his own doing anyway and I can't blame the UFC for not waiting for him even if it's just a few weeks.

Dudes probably the best fighter at the weight and deserves a shot but he can't(and no fighter should) dictate when, where and who he wants to fight.
Especially not now, I'd rather see him make weight for another fight than suffer through another cancellation of the fight.
After the weight fiasco he should really be killing himself to fight whenever the UFC wanted the fight to go down and not asking for an extra few weeks.
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p4p1 wrote:
SaadOffTheDeck wrote:
p4p1 wrote: Khabib seemed to be fine for 217 but not 216. It seems the UFC is just wanting a 'title' fight for 216. Obviously Khabib vs Ferguson is the fight to make but as much as I like Khabib this is his own doing anyway and I can't blame the UFC for not waiting for him even if it's just a few weeks.

Dudes probably the best fighter at the weight and deserves a shot but he can't(and no fighter should) dictate when, where and who he wants to fight.
Especially not now, I'd rather see him make weight for another fight than suffer through another cancellation of the fight.
After the weight fiasco he should really be killing himself to fight whenever the UFC wanted the fight to go down and not asking for an extra few weeks.
He had surgery, maybe he wouldn't be cleared.
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SaadOffTheDeck wrote:
p4p1 wrote:
SaadOffTheDeck wrote:
Especially not now, I'd rather see him make weight for another fight than suffer through another cancellation of the fight.
After the weight fiasco he should really be killing himself to fight whenever the UFC wanted the fight to go down and not asking for an extra few weeks.
He had surgery, maybe he wouldn't be cleared.
I didn't know that. I had just read that he was offered 216 but wanted 217 and refused 216. But if he's had surgery it might be much more complicated.
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p4p1 wrote:
SaadOffTheDeck wrote:
p4p1 wrote: After the weight fiasco he should really be killing himself to fight whenever the UFC wanted the fight to go down and not asking for an extra few weeks.
He had surgery, maybe he wouldn't be cleared.
I didn't know that. I had just read that he was offered 216 but wanted 217 and refused 216. But if he's had surgery it might be much more complicated.
I try not to quote Dana as gospel, but he said "khabib had surgery and he's just not ready to fight". The press conferences with Cholo and Lee would be entertaining. Ferguson is crazy underrated on the mic.
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Are you gonna put money down on the maymac fight Saad? The odds for mayweather are surprisingly good and getting better. It does seem like a good way to make 20%
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