Which will cause who issues? I can see that working both ways.danconnollyeire wrote:Whyte has massive massive balls. He walked straight through AJ's shots for 6 rounds. He won't be afraid of Wilder which will cause him issues
Dillian Whyte: Deontay Wilder is an 'embarrassment' to heavyweight boxing
Re: Dillian Whyte: Deontay Wilder is an 'embarrassment' to heavyweight boxing
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Re: Dillian Whyte: Deontay Wilder is an 'embarrassment' to heavyweight boxing
You mis-quoted- I didn't say that. I think Del Boy sucks.Sagaroth wrote:It is also important if the opponent will give you a chance to show up :)punchoutsb wrote:
Chisora is hot and cold. He was good against an old Vitali, Helenius and Whyte.
He didn't show up against Fury and Pulev. He showed up against Haye and got his lights turned out.
It just depends on the day with him.
In both cases (Pulev and Fury) Chisora didn't have any chance to perform...
Styles make fights as all of us know :)
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Re: Dillian Whyte: Deontay Wilder is an 'embarrassment' to heavyweight boxing
Stiverne is a better opponent than Whyte.Enlightened-One wrote:I have to be honest, Deontay Wilder’s resume is pretty abysmal for a champion that has competed in so many fights and has also held his title for such a long time.Impractical Poster wrote:Whyte seems to be in a hurry to get starched.
I wouldn’t be confident about ‘The Bronze Bomber’ having an “easy” time against a proven talent like Dillian Whyte.
This might appear to you to be a “ridiculous” claim to make, but I feel that a victory over Dillian Whyte would be the highlight of Deontay Wilder’s professional career… surpassing even his one-sided decision win over Bermane Stiverne.
The strange thing is… I don’t personally consider Dillian Whyte to be a world-beater, he's not overly-impressive, but I feel he would still be a huge step up in class for ‘The Bronze Bomber’.
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Re: Dillian Whyte: Deontay Wilder is an 'embarrassment' to heavyweight boxing
Deontay Wilder very publicly corroborated Eddie Hearn's offer for the Whyte bout when he openly admitted to rejecting a fight purse of $3m, by claiming he wanted $7m instead.Impractical Poster wrote:Stiverne is a better opponent than Whyte.Enlightened-One wrote:I have to be honest, Deontay Wilder’s resume is pretty abysmal for a champion that has competed in so many fights and has also held his title for such a long time.Impractical Poster wrote:Whyte seems to be in a hurry to get starched.
I wouldn’t be confident about ‘The Bronze Bomber’ having an “easy” time against a proven talent like Dillian Whyte.
This might appear to you to be a “ridiculous” claim to make, but I feel that a victory over Dillian Whyte would be the highlight of Deontay Wilder’s professional career… surpassing even his one-sided decision win over Bermane Stiverne.
The strange thing is… I don’t personally consider Dillian Whyte to be a world-beater, he's not overly-impressive, but I feel he would still be a huge step up in class for ‘The Bronze Bomber’.
'The Bronze Bomber' was only paid $900K when he fought Gerald Washington. He received $1.4m for the Arreola fight, $1.5m to face Szpilka and $1.4m for the Duhaupas bout. Wilder’s purse for his first bout against Stiverne was only $1m, which is pretty poor considering he was on the proverbial A-side at the time.
Showtime doesn’t want to televise a potential rematch between Wilder-Stiverne (as confirmed by ESPN), but they’d almost certainly cover a Wilder-Whyte fight.
Dillian Whyte is rated above Bermane Stiverne by Boxrec, PBO, ESPN and also The RING, as well as by the IBF, WBO & IBO.
So Dillian Whyte is a not only a much better opponent for Deontay Wilder from a financial perspective (considering his purse would at least be double the size of his normal payday), but the Brit is universally considered a much better fighter than the controversial PED-using Haitian and will also attract a far bigger viewing audience.
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Re: Dillian Whyte: Deontay Wilder is an 'embarrassment' to heavyweight boxing
Says who?Impractical Poster wrote:Stiverne is a better opponent than Whyte.Enlightened-One wrote:I have to be honest, Deontay Wilder’s resume is pretty abysmal for a champion that has competed in so many fights and has also held his title for such a long time.Impractical Poster wrote:Whyte seems to be in a hurry to get starched.
I wouldn’t be confident about ‘The Bronze Bomber’ having an “easy” time against a proven talent like Dillian Whyte.
This might appear to you to be a “ridiculous” claim to make, but I feel that a victory over Dillian Whyte would be the highlight of Deontay Wilder’s professional career… surpassing even his one-sided decision win over Bermane Stiverne.
The strange thing is… I don’t personally consider Dillian Whyte to be a world-beater, he's not overly-impressive, but I feel he would still be a huge step up in class for ‘The Bronze Bomber’.
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Re: Dillian Whyte: Deontay Wilder is an 'embarrassment' to heavyweight boxing
What makes Whyte a more credible opponent than Stiverne? A SD win over Chisora?Riddick Blowe wrote:Says who?Impractical Poster wrote:Stiverne is a better opponent than Whyte.Enlightened-One wrote: I have to be honest, Deontay Wilder’s resume is pretty abysmal for a champion that has competed in so many fights and has also held his title for such a long time.
I wouldn’t be confident about ‘The Bronze Bomber’ having an “easy” time against a proven talent like Dillian Whyte.
This might appear to you to be a “ridiculous” claim to make, but I feel that a victory over Dillian Whyte would be the highlight of Deontay Wilder’s professional career… surpassing even his one-sided decision win over Bermane Stiverne.
The strange thing is… I don’t personally consider Dillian Whyte to be a world-beater, he's not overly-impressive, but I feel he would still be a huge step up in class for ‘The Bronze Bomber’.
Re: Dillian Whyte: Deontay Wilder is an 'embarrassment' to heavyweight boxing
Sorry mate :)punchoutsb wrote:You mis-quoted- I didn't say that. I think Del Boy sucks.Sagaroth wrote:It is also important if the opponent will give you a chance to show up :)punchoutsb wrote:
Chisora is hot and cold. He was good against an old Vitali, Helenius and Whyte.
He didn't show up against Fury and Pulev. He showed up against Haye and got his lights turned out.
It just depends on the day with him.
In both cases (Pulev and Fury) Chisora didn't have any chance to perform...
Styles make fights as all of us know :)
This was to *Loki
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Re: Dillian Whyte: Deontay Wilder is an 'embarrassment' to heavyweight boxing
when he's up against someone who's best win is a shopworn Chris Arreola, yes.Impractical Poster wrote:What makes Whyte a more credible opponent than Stiverne? A SD win over Chisora?Riddick Blowe wrote:Says who?Impractical Poster wrote: Stiverne is a better opponent than Whyte.
Maybe there isn't much in it. I don't see much to suggest Stiverne is better.
Re: Dillian Whyte: Deontay Wilder is an 'embarrassment' to heavyweight boxing
Whyte is at least on Stiverne's level...I think he's a better all-rounder and would certainly pick him to beat Stiverne now. Stiverne is very lazy and has looked like crap in several fights, and I still remember how clueless he looked when 40-year old Ray Austin gave him a boxing lesson and jabbed his head off for nearly 10 rounds. I recall that IP claimed that Wilder has the best jab in the division, seemingly just based on Wilder's win over Stiverne, but even Austin looked like a Holmes reincarnation against Stiv.
By the way, what even puts Stiverne above Chisora? If you deride Chisora, you also make a mockery of Wilder's resume. Chis KO'd one of Wilder's best opponents and would very arguably be superior to anyone Deontay's fought; Gerald 'terrified of Big Baby' Washington, shot Arreola, Arreola 1 round victim Molina, Chisora victim Malik Scott, Euro gatekeeper Duhaupas, Szpilka, Stiverne.....not much quality, is there? I mean, after nearly 10 years and 40 fights his best opponent is Stiverne
Pretty funny that some posters have declared their support for Wilder because they think the poor guy gets it too tough. War Wilder and mediocre fights!!!
By the way, what even puts Stiverne above Chisora? If you deride Chisora, you also make a mockery of Wilder's resume. Chis KO'd one of Wilder's best opponents and would very arguably be superior to anyone Deontay's fought; Gerald 'terrified of Big Baby' Washington, shot Arreola, Arreola 1 round victim Molina, Chisora victim Malik Scott, Euro gatekeeper Duhaupas, Szpilka, Stiverne.....not much quality, is there? I mean, after nearly 10 years and 40 fights his best opponent is Stiverne
Pretty funny that some posters have declared their support for Wilder because they think the poor guy gets it too tough. War Wilder and mediocre fights!!!
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Re: Dillian Whyte: Deontay Wilder is an 'embarrassment' to heavyweight boxing
wilder seemingly not wanting to fight Whyte is laughable. How many more corpses do they have to dredge up for this guy.crusader wrote:Whyte is at least on Stiverne's level...I think he's a better all-rounder and would certainly pick him to beat Stiverne now. Stiverne is very lazy and has looked like crap in several fights, and I still remember how clueless he looked when 40-year old Ray Austin gave him a boxing lesson and jabbed his head off for nearly 10 rounds. I recall that IP claimed that Wilder has the best jab in the division, seemingly just based on Wilder's win over Stiverne, but even Austin looked like a Holmes reincarnation against Stiv.
By the way, what even puts Stiverne above Chisora? If you deride Chisora, you also make a mockery of Wilder's resume. Chis KO'd one of Wilder's best opponents and would very arguably be superior to anyone Deontay's fought; Gerald 'terrified of Big Baby' Washington, shot Arreola, Arreola 1 round victim Molina, Chisora victim Malik Scott, Euro gatekeeper Duhaupas, Szpilka, Stiverne.....not much quality, is there? I mean, after nearly 10 years and 40 fights his best opponent is Stiverne
Pretty funny that some posters have declared their support for Wilder because they think the poor guy gets it too tough. War Wilder and mediocre fights!!!
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Re: Dillian Whyte: Deontay Wilder is an 'embarrassment' to heavyweight boxing
I think nobody in the top 25 of the WBC would lose against Stiverne lol. Especially not Chisora.Impractical Poster wrote:What makes Whyte a more credible opponent than Stiverne? A SD win over Chisora?Riddick Blowe wrote:Says who?Impractical Poster wrote: Stiverne is a better opponent than Whyte.
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Re: Dillian Whyte: Deontay Wilder is an 'embarrassment' to heavyweight boxing
Stiverne has better wins than Whyte.Riddick Blowe wrote:when he's up against someone who's best win is a shopworn Chris Arreola, yes.Impractical Poster wrote:What makes Whyte a more credible opponent than Stiverne? A SD win over Chisora?Riddick Blowe wrote:
Says who?
Maybe there isn't much in it. I don't see much to suggest Stiverne is better.
Re: Dillian Whyte: Deontay Wilder is an 'embarrassment' to heavyweight boxing
Stiverne had also lost to and drawn with journeymen, and he looked worse in getting his head jabbed off against old Austin than I've ever seen Whyte look. This is who you're talking about when it comes to the top guy Wilder has fought in 10 years pro.
Even if we take your word that Stiverne was a better opponent, Whyte would be the next best out of nearly 40 opponents.
Even if we take your word that Stiverne was a better opponent, Whyte would be the next best out of nearly 40 opponents.
Re: Dillian Whyte: Deontay Wilder is an 'embarrassment' to heavyweight boxing
Each to there own, but if the fight was made tomorrow I'd take whyte over strivene
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Re: Dillian Whyte: Deontay Wilder is an 'embarrassment' to heavyweight boxing
When? Who?Impractical Poster wrote:Stiverne has better wins than Whyte.Riddick Blowe wrote:when he's up against someone who's best win is a shopworn Chris Arreola, yes.Impractical Poster wrote: What makes Whyte a more credible opponent than Stiverne? A SD win over Chisora?
Maybe there isn't much in it. I don't see much to suggest Stiverne is better.
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Re: Dillian Whyte: Deontay Wilder is an 'embarrassment' to heavyweight boxing
Yes both but it's something Whyte has dealt with before. Wilder has never had someone constantly walk forward and say 'is that all you've got'gp. wrote:Which will cause who issues? I can see that working both ways.danconnollyeire wrote:Whyte has massive massive balls. He walked straight through AJ's shots for 6 rounds. He won't be afraid of Wilder which will cause him issues