Is athletiscm & technique the same in boxing?

[Jip]

Technique means, the things you do inside to net get hit but in return you are able to punch your opponent. Anything speed, footwork, reflexes etc. that gives u an advantage to not get hit.

Most boxer i know that didnt get punched a lot were at their prime extremly athletic gifted boxer. Leonard, floyd, roy, judah, rigondeaux, lara etc., all boxer who got rarly punched when they were prime and all smongs the most athletic boxer ever!

The boxers who are a litle less athletic like ward, wlad or hopkins tend to do something called holding, wrestling. Non experts say this is technique, i say it is illegal tactics or straight up bs.

So what the difference between athletiscm & technique or is it the same, bevause athletic body, athletic legs gives you the advantage of moving you upper body better of having more fluid faster footwork etc., one thing is for sure floyd with same technique but not his superb athletic physic but lets say the physic of rios would be a total different ball game.

[Boxing Writer]

No.

Juan Manuel Marquez = technique.

Zab Judah = athleticism.

[cpfc_fan]

Technique means, the things you do inside to net get hit but in return you are able to punch your opponent. Anything speed, footwork, reflexes etc. that gives u an advantage to not get hit.

Most boxer i know that didnt get punched a lot were at their prime extremly athletic gifted boxer. Leonard, floyd, roy, judah, rigondeaux, lara etc., all boxer who got rarly punched when they were prime and all smongs the most athletic boxer ever!

The boxers who are a litle less athletic like ward, wlad or hopkins tend to do something called holding, wrestling. Non experts say this is technique, i say it is illegal tactics or straight up bs.

So what the difference between athletiscm & technique or is it the same, bevause athletic body, athletic legs gives you the advantage of moving you upper body better of having more fluid faster footwork etc., one thing is for sure floyd with same technique but not his superb athletic physic but lets say the physic of rios would be a total different ball game.

They are totally different (although used inaccurately by many, even professional analysts)

Athleticism is physical attributes - speed, strength, power etc.
Technique is not really a skill - it is the proficiency with which a skill is performed. So a hook is a hook. But one thrown with good technique will be delivered more accurately and with more power than one with poor technique.

[Jip]

No.

Juan Manuel Marquez = technique.

Zab Judah = athleticism.

More detail. That is not enough for a good answer.

[Jip]

Technique means, the things you do inside to net get hit but in return you are able to punch your opponent. Anything speed, footwork, reflexes etc. that gives u an advantage to not get hit.

Most boxer i know that didnt get punched a lot were at their prime extremly athletic gifted boxer. Leonard, floyd, roy, judah, rigondeaux, lara etc., all boxer who got rarly punched when they were prime and all smongs the most athletic boxer ever!

The boxers who are a litle less athletic like ward, wlad or hopkins tend to do something called holding, wrestling. Non experts say this is technique, i say it is illegal tactics or straight up bs.

So what the difference between athletiscm & technique or is it the same, bevause athletic body, athletic legs gives you the advantage of moving you upper body better of having more fluid faster footwork etc., one thing is for sure floyd with same technique but not his superb athletic physic but lets say the physic of rios would be a total different ball game.

They are totally different (although used inaccurately by many, even professional analysts)

Athleticism is physical attributes - speed, strength, power etc.
Technique is not really a skill - it is the proficiency with which a skill is performed. So a hook is a hook. But one thrown with good technique will be delivered more accurately and with more power than one with poor technique.

Good answer. I get it.

Athletiscm gives you the skills. But skills needs an effiecient way to be used in your favour, that is technique.

And when athletiscm combines with texhnique than u have a very tough opponent to beat like leonard or floyd.

[Ossyrules]

Athleticism - Roy Jones jr

Speed, reflexes, power. Allowed him to do things technically incorrect, leading often with the hook, fighting with his hands down etc

Technique - Bernard Hopkins

Ringcraft, distance, timing. Very smart boxing IQ, technically correct, more solid over the spectacular.

Whilst Roy was so athletically gifted it provided his key to victory over Hopkins. Hopkins couldn't handle the speed and couldn't punch with Roy when he got going.

Once Roy's athletic gifts declined, the more solid technician, Hopkins, was able to score a comfortable victory over the technically incorrect Roy Jones. I believe Roy neglect certain techniques as he was such a specimen he didn't need to train that way

[Enlightened-One]

Is athletiscm & technique the same in boxing?

Is this really a serious question?

[gilgamesh]

Athleticism - Roy Jones jr

Speed, reflexes, power. Allowed him to do things technically incorrect, leading often with the hook, fighting with his hands down etc

Technique - Bernard Hopkins

Ringcraft, distance, timing. Very smart boxing IQ, technically correct, more solid over the spectacular.

Whilst Roy was so athletically gifted it provided his key to victory over Hopkins. Hopkins couldn't handle the speed and couldn't punch with Roy when he got going.

Once Roy's athletic gifts declined, the more solid technician, Hopkins, was able to score a comfortable victory over the technically incorrect Roy Jones. I believe Roy neglect certain techniques as he was such a specimen he didn't need to train that way

Perfect example to answer the question with

[Kalan]

Boxers with poor technique but good athleticism include: George Foreman... Mickey Walker... Ray Robinson... Naseem Hamed... Joe Calzaghe... Floyd Patterson... Mike Tyson...Terry Norris... Billy Conn...

Some had poor athletic gifts but good technique... Emile Griffith... Joey Maxim... Eddie Perkins...Miguel Cotto... Chris John... Andre Ward... Denny Moyer... Jackie Fields... Davey Moore the Featherweight... Carlos Ortiz...

[SaadOffTheDeck]

What a ridiculous question. No.

[Lackeos]

This is the type of question that shouldn't even be asked. This is like "Are boxing gloves and boxing trunks the same thing?" "Are a sparring partner and a trainer the same thing?" "Are boxers and fans the same thing?"

[Jip]

This is the type of question that shouldn't even be asked. This is like "Are boxing gloves and boxing trunks the same thing?" "Are a sparring partner and a trainer the same thing?" "Are boxers and fans the same thing?"

I was bored. I know the difference. But one thing is for sure. Its how somebody interpreted it..

[Ossyrules]

This is the type of question that shouldn't even be asked. This is like "Are boxing gloves and boxing trunks the same thing?" "Are a sparring partner and a trainer the same thing?" "Are boxers and fans the same thing?"

I was bored. I know the difference. But one thing is for sure. Its how somebody interpreted it..

How can you misinterpret which ones are shorts and which ones are gloves?

[caldo2025]

Big difference between athletic and technical skills but I'm not sure which I'd choose from a genie if I were a boxer. Anthony Joshua is a great example of a great athlete. To be that big and agile is like seeing a unicorn. His technique is mediocre which is scary for other HW's because he's going to get so much better if he stays hungry.

The best athlete I've ever witnessed was Sweat Pea Whittaker. It's not even close either. His body did things I've never see before or again.

To be great I think you need to have a lot of both but I think I'd rather be more athletic.

[Badhusker]

Athleticism = (or lack of) Jip doing 10 pushups in a row.
Technique = Proper technique allows Jip to use his poor athleticism to do 10 in a row.

[danconnollyeire]

Technique means, the things you do inside to net get hit but in return you are able to punch your opponent. Anything speed, footwork, reflexes etc. that gives u an advantage to not get hit.

Most boxer i know that didnt get punched a lot were at their prime extremly athletic gifted boxer. Leonard, floyd, roy, judah, rigondeaux, lara etc., all boxer who got rarly punched when they were prime and all smongs the most athletic boxer ever!

The boxers who are a litle less athletic like ward, wlad or hopkins tend to do something called holding, wrestling. Non experts say this is technique, i say it is illegal tactics or straight up bs.

So what the difference between athletiscm & technique or is it the same, bevause athletic body, athletic legs gives you the advantage of moving you upper body better of having more fluid faster footwork etc., one thing is for sure floyd with same technique but not his superb athletic physic but lets say the physic of rios would be a total different ball game.

They are totally different (although used inaccurately by many, even professional analysts)

Athleticism is physical attributes - speed, strength, power etc.
Technique is not really a skill - it is the proficiency with which a skill is performed. So a hook is a hook. But one thrown with good technique will be delivered more accurately and with more power than one with poor technique.

Good answer. I get it.

Athletiscm gives you the skills. But skills needs an effiecient way to be used in your favour, that is technique.

And when athletiscm combines with texhnique than u have a very tough opponent to beat like leonard or floyd.

No. If athleticism gave you skill,Usain Bolt would be a world champion. Knitting is a skill. Darts is a skill. Not much athleticism there

[Impractical Poster]

This is what makes Lamochenko so great. He looks to be a great athlete and his technique is beautiful to boot. Garcia is more technique than natural athleticism.

Which brings up another point. Athleticism is more of a natural attribute whereas technique is a honed skill.

[Ossyrules]

Another example would be Manny Pacquaio vs Juan Manuel Marquez

Pacquaio had tremendous physical athletic gifts for his lower weight classes. Lightening speed, frightening power, strong, massive workrate.

Marquez, though athletically gifted, was not a phenom like Pacquaio, so therefore had be a little bit more solid tactically and technically in his rise to the top. As with my hopkins example, this type of fighter has to learn ringcraft and fighting IQ to bridge the gap to their more athletically outstanding opponent.

Pacquaio vs Marquez is a tremendous battle of these traits.

To his credit Pacquaio did improve technically through his career, where Roy Jones jr (earlier example) neglected it really till his reflexes slowed too much and he was done

[Jip]

Athleticism = (or lack of) Jip doing 10 pushups in a row.
Technique = Proper technique allows Jip to use his poor athleticism to do 10 in a row.

[Horse]

Christ!

[Jip]

Another example would be Manny Pacquaio vs Juan Manuel Marquez

Pacquaio had tremendous physical athletic gifts for his lower weight classes. Lightening speed, frightening power, strong, massive workrate.

Marquez, though athletically gifted, was not a phenom like Pacquaio, so therefore had be a little bit more solid tactically and technically in his rise to the top. As with my hopkins example, this type of fighter has to learn ringcraft and fighting IQ to bridge the gap to their more athletically outstanding opponent.

Pacquaio vs Marquez is a tremendous battle of these traits.

To his credit Pacquaio did improve technically through his career, where Roy Jones jr (earlier example) neglected it really till his reflexes slowed too much and he was done

I find pac was techniquly good. The way he fought oscar. Inside out, lots of lateral Movement, lots of upperbody head Movement. Good timing etc..

[Ossyrules]

Another example would be Manny Pacquaio vs Juan Manuel Marquez

Pacquaio had tremendous physical athletic gifts for his lower weight classes. Lightening speed, frightening power, strong, massive workrate.

Marquez, though athletically gifted, was not a phenom like Pacquaio, so therefore had be a little bit more solid tactically and technically in his rise to the top. As with my hopkins example, this type of fighter has to learn ringcraft and fighting IQ to bridge the gap to their more athletically outstanding opponent.

Pacquaio vs Marquez is a tremendous battle of these traits.

To his credit Pacquaio did improve technically through his career, where Roy Jones jr (earlier example) neglected it really till his reflexes slowed too much and he was done

I find pac was techniquly good. The way he fought oscar. Inside out, lots of lateral Movement, lots of upperbody head Movement. Good timing etc..

It was a combination of speed, aggression and volume that did oscar in for me. Athletic traits. In fairness oscar was so done in it's not really a fight to judge a boxer on.

Pacquaio did improve technically though as his career progressed. His right hand became way better. His right hand killed Hatton

[Badhusker]

Athleticism = (or lack of) Jip doing 10 pushups in a row.
Technique = Proper technique allows Jip to use his poor athleticism to do 10 in a row.

[crusader]

Andrey Kotelink is an example of a guy who had world class technique but unspectacular athleticism

[Ossyrules]

Andrey Kotelink is an example of a guy who had world class technique but unspectacular athleticism

Good example