Froch Still Confident He Would Have Knocked Joe Calzaghe Out

[Ruthless-RKO]

If there was one goal that Carl Froch would have liked to achieve - it was a showdown with his domestic rival Joe Calzaghe.

Both fighters are in retirement, but Froch (33-2, 24 KOs) - who last fought in 2014 with a vicious knockout of George Groves - was gunning for a fight with Calzaghe (46-0, 32 KOs), who walked away from the sport with an undefeated record and last fought in 2008 with a domination of Roy Jones Jr.

Calzaghe never felt Froch was a big enough name to entertain a decade ago. Froch began to reach his potential around 2008 to 2009, when he defeated Jean Pascal, Jermain Taylor and Andre Dirrell.

If you speak with Calzaghe, he's beyond confident that he would have been too quick and too good for Froch. He believes that it would have been an easy win if they would have fought back then.

If you talk to Froch, he believes that he would have been the first boxer to defeat Calzaghe - and he would have achieved that feat by knockout.

"The answer to that is I think I would have beaten him. It would have been a really, really tough fight. (There are) Two results: Calzaghe beats me on points, or I beat Calzaghe with a knockout. He's very tough, very slick and has a high workrate. But I believe I'd have knocked him out. We'll never know because he didn't want to fight," Froch told Daily Star.

"There's no animosity. If you talk to him he'll say 'speed kills, Froch wasn't any good.' That's what you'll get from him. It just makes me laugh, he just sounds a bit...like a troll. I'm too big and too good for that. Look at me now and look at him now. That sounds like I'm being bitter but I'm not. Just look at the facts and stick to the reality."

[Noxy]

I'd be surprised if he didn't feel that way. That boat's sailed now though.

[Covfefe]

He doesn't hit hard enough.

[Tangerine]

Calzaghe on points every time wide but not ridiculous

[Mexi-Box]

Calzaghe would slap the shit out of him into an easy UD. Froch needs to get over it.

[RScarf1]

Maybe Froch would have beaten Calzaghe in 2008 because he was no longer in his prime and Froch was. If their entire careers are compared, boxrec rates Calzaghe No. 1 all time super middleweight and Froch No. 2. If they fought when they were both in their primes (which was impossible), then I think Calzaghe wins by a close decision. Froch couldn't knock out Kessler and he even lost to Kessler once, but won the rematch. I don't see how he could be so confident that he would knock Calzaghe out.

[Ossyrules]

Froch has a weird personality sometimes, Calzaghe, 80k at Wembley, George groves, degale, there's some things he never drops and can't help but stick the knife into.

Reality was Froch came late in the day for Calzaghe

Reality Froch always struggled vs guys with fast hands and speed

Reality Calzaghe was a superior boxer on a level up from carl

[Blodhemn]

"he just sounds a bit...like a troll. I'm too big and too good for that"

Lol, didn't your dumb ass use the words "too big" when posting instagram troll pics towards GGG when you decided not to fight him?

Calzaghe would do the impossible and make Froch look even more foolish if they ever fought.

[Enlightened-One]

Froch beats Calzaghe every day of the week and twice on a Sunday.

The Welshman rejected at least three opportunities to face the man from Nottingham, with Joe feeling that he had bigger fish to fry for comparable paydays.

[crusader]

Calzaghe wouldve won 9-3/8-4

[Covfefe]

Froch beats Calzaghe every day of the week and twice on a Sunday.

The Welshman rejected at least three opportunities to face the man from Nottingham, with Joe feeling that he had bigger fish to fry for comparable paydays.

Carl Froch was the British champion when Calzaghe fought Hopkins. Froch openly said he wouldn't go to 175 to fight him. The bigger fish were fried.

[Enlightened-One]

Froch beats Calzaghe every day of the week and twice on a Sunday.

The Welshman rejected at least three opportunities to face the man from Nottingham, with Joe feeling that he had bigger fish to fry for comparable paydays.

Carl Froch was the British champion when Calzaghe fought Hopkins. Froch openly said he wouldn't go to 175 to fight him. The bigger fish were fried.

Froch was one of the top rated contenders for the 168lbs world title when attempts were made to make this fight happen.

I recently posted quite a few URL's detailing the various attempts that Team Froch did to make the Calzaghe bout... and money almost certainly wasn't one of the reasons why the Welshman decided to reject that bout several times.

Do you need me to supply the same information for the sixth time asking (since a lot of people who make the same sort of claims you did often prefer to remain silent when presented with the sort of evidence that I provide)?

[Covfefe]

Froch beats Calzaghe every day of the week and twice on a Sunday.

The Welshman rejected at least three opportunities to face the man from Nottingham, with Joe feeling that he had bigger fish to fry for comparable paydays.

Carl Froch was the British champion when Calzaghe fought Hopkins. Froch openly said he wouldn't go to 175 to fight him. The bigger fish were fried.

Froch was one of the top rated contenders for the 168lbs world title when attempts were made to make this fight happen.

I recently posted quite a few URL's detailing the various attempts that Team Froch did to make the Calzaghe bout... and money almost certainly wasn't one of the reasons why the Welshman decided to reject that bout several times.

He was, but Calzaghe was in a completely different league when those offers were made. Calzaghe was at the end of his career, fights with Hopkins meant more, and Froch was never going north of 168 and Calzaghe was never coming down. They simply crossed at different times. Froch's career doesn't suffer from not fighting DeGale, and I don't think Calzaghe's career suffers from not fighting Froch.

[Enlightened-One]

Carl Froch was the British champion when Calzaghe fought Hopkins. Froch openly said he wouldn't go to 175 to fight him. The bigger fish were fried.

Froch was one of the top rated contenders for the 168lbs world title when attempts were made to make this fight happen.

I recently posted quite a few URL's detailing the various attempts that Team Froch did to make the Calzaghe bout... and money almost certainly wasn't one of the reasons why the Welshman decided to reject that bout several times.

He was, but Calzaghe was in a completely different league when those offers were made. Calzaghe was at the end of his career, fights with Hopkins meant more, and Froch was never going north of 168 and Calzaghe was never coming down. They simply crossed at different times. Froch's career doesn't suffer from not fighting DeGale, and I don't think Calzaghe's career suffers from not fighting Froch.

Calzaghe's career suffered because his resume is relatively poor because he was reluctant for most of his career to face truly elite hungry young lions and nor was he willing to venture away from home turf without being well-paid to face past-their-prime Hall-of-Famers.

[Covfefe]

Froch was one of the top rated contenders for the 168lbs world title when attempts were made to make this fight happen.

I recently posted quite a few URL's detailing the various attempts that Team Froch did to make the Calzaghe bout... and money almost certainly wasn't one of the reasons why the Welshman decided to reject that bout several times.

He was, but Calzaghe was in a completely different league when those offers were made. Calzaghe was at the end of his career, fights with Hopkins meant more, and Froch was never going north of 168 and Calzaghe was never coming down. They simply crossed at different times. Froch's career doesn't suffer from not fighting DeGale, and I don't think Calzaghe's career suffers from not fighting Froch.

Calzaghe's career suffered because his resume is relatively poor because he was reluctant for most of his career to face truly elite hungry young lions and nor was he willing to venture away from home turf without being well-paid to face past-their-prime Hall-of-Famers.

And that has what to do with Carl Froch?

[Oiky]

A fighter will always believe in himself

Joe woulda bin too slick though

[Enlightened-One]

He was, but Calzaghe was in a completely different league when those offers were made. Calzaghe was at the end of his career, fights with Hopkins meant more, and Froch was never going north of 168 and Calzaghe was never coming down. They simply crossed at different times. Froch's career doesn't suffer from not fighting DeGale, and I don't think Calzaghe's career suffers from not fighting Froch.

Calzaghe's career suffered because his resume is relatively poor because he was reluctant for most of his career to face truly elite hungry young lions and nor was he willing to venture away from home turf without being well-paid to face past-their-prime Hall-of-Famers.

And that has what to do with Carl Froch?

Froch made three big money attempts to get Calzaghe to share the ring with him.

[Thomastearns]

Froch has a weird personality sometimes, Calzaghe, 80k at Wembley, George groves, degale, there's some things he never drops and can't help but stick the knife into.

Reality was Froch came late in the day for Calzaghe

Reality Froch always struggled vs guys with fast hands and speed

Reality Calzaghe was a superior boxer on a level up from carl

Exactly!

Calzaghe is correct, 'speed kills'. Froch would always have had a slugger's chance but Calzaghe was Britain's Mayweather - fast hands, elusive footwork, good chin, great stamina and wise matchmaking etc. Albeit far more likeable.

If Joe had been American and had the right contacts he could have set new purse records. Being Welsh, he doesn't even get his due credit here in Britain.

[Ossyrules]

Froch beats Calzaghe every day of the week and twice on a Sunday.

The Welshman rejected at least three opportunities to face the man from Nottingham, with Joe feeling that he had bigger fish to fry for comparable paydays.

Very unlikely assessment but it's your opinion

[bigjack]

Froch beats Calzaghe every day of the week and twice on a Sunday.

The Welshman rejected at least three opportunities to face the man from Nottingham, with Joe feeling that he had bigger fish to fry for comparable paydays.

[danconnollyeire]

Calzaghe on points every time wide but not ridiculous

As much as I liked Froch as a fighter (as a person he's a dick), Calzaghe would've won every round. Maybe bar one. Similar to the Lacy result

[danconnollyeire]

Calzaghe's career suffered because his resume is relatively poor because he was reluctant for most of his career to face truly elite hungry young lions and nor was he willing to venture away from home turf without being well-paid to face past-their-prime Hall-of-Famers.

And that has what to do with Carl Froch?

Froch made three big money attempts to get Calzaghe to share the ring with him.

You think beating Brian Magee made him worthy at the time?

[Carbo]

If we're talking when the fight could have happened, with Calzaghe probably having to come out of retirement (when he was past his best and going for money fights anyway), the Froch, maybe, in a way. But in their respective primes, or really at any time during Calzaghe's career? Prince of Wales, perhaps by knockout even. Don't forget just how easily Calzaghe handled Kessler. I think (from memory) he could have had him out there in the seventh, and was very close to doing so, but in the end settled for a lopsided decision win. Froch went life and death in a thriller. He also ruined -- and I mean ruined -- Jeff Lacy (we all think he was bad, but he wasn't, he just took the kind of beating from Calzaghe that nobody ever recovers from), smashed Mario Veit, another undefeated, hyped star, who he fought abroad, and outworked Bernard Hopkins, above his natural weight. Hopkins was past it, but still wiley enough to beat heavily favoured, massively hyped Kelly Pavlik a couple of fights later. Froch was a heavy hitter, but Calzaghe's chin was solid. Sure, Jones and Hopkins had him down, but the chin is usually the first thing in a fighter to go, and Calzaghe was at the end of his career. Before that, he had an uncrackable chin. I remember the first time he hit the deck, it was from a picture perfect left hook, of the short, perfectly formed type you see in old black and white film of Joe Lewis. He was all over the joint when he hit the deck, but had his senses back straight away.

Froch's defence was too porous, he's not fast or long enough -- there's just no way I can see him winning such a fight.

[Counter-puncher]

Calzaghe's chin was solid. Sure, Jones and Hopkins had him down, but the chin is usually the first thing in a fighter to go, and Calzaghe was at the end of his career. Before that, he had an uncrackable chin.

I remember the first time he hit the deck, it was from a picture perfect left hook, of the short, perfectly formed type you see in old black and white film of Joe Lewis. He was all over the joint when he hit the deck, but had his senses back straight away.
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you're talking about Byron Mitchell? that was a right hand. right hand to the body, right hook to the head.

[Carbo]

Calzaghe's chin was solid. Sure, Jones and Hopkins had him down, but the chin is usually the first thing in a fighter to go, and Calzaghe was at the end of his career. Before that, he had an uncrackable chin.

I remember the first time he hit the deck, it was from a picture perfect left hook, of the short, perfectly formed type you see in old black and white film of Joe Lewis. He was all over the joint when he hit the deck, but had his senses back straight away.
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you're talking about Byron Mitchell? that was a right hand. right hand to the body, right hook to the head.

That's the one. Memory fades. It was still a gorgeous punch from memory. Short.