Enlightened-One wrote:Froch beats Calzaghe every day of the week and twice on a Sunday.
The Welshman rejected at least three opportunities to face the man from Nottingham, with Joe feeling that he had bigger fish to fry for comparable paydays.
Carl Froch was the British champion when Calzaghe fought Hopkins. Froch openly said he wouldn't go to 175 to fight him. The bigger fish were fried.
I seem to recall at the time the fight people really wanted to see Joe in around the time just before he retired was Kelly Pavlik and Carl Froch really wasn't so high on the list. I don't think he was considered a serious threat. Nobody really thought Froch was a good as he turned out to be for quite a while.
People seem to think Froch is an idiot but I still quite like the bloke and think he's funny and that's not a bad assessment of the fight: "I'd have to knock him out to win and I'm sure I'd knock him out". What do you expect him to say?
I hadn't even heard of Froch until the Pascal fight, though I was following the sport less closely in those days. His record certainly didn't make him stand out as someone who was clearly THE guy for Calzaghe to end his career against, and nothing Froch did after JC's retirement is relevant to the situation at the time.
crusader wrote:I hadn't even heard of Froch until the Pascal fight, though I was following the sport less closely in those days. His record certainly didn't make him stand out as someone who was clearly THE guy for Calzaghe to end his career against, and nothing Froch did after JC's retirement is relevant to the situation at the time.
That's pretty much it, they were from different eras really.
Once Calzaghe went to 175 and he'd been struggling to make 168 for a couple of fights it was never going to happen. Froch said he wouldn't go to 175 and Calzaghe was clearly the draw at the time so he wasn't going to drop to 168. Lots of people forget Calzaghe has his last fight before Froch even fought Pascal.
Froch is one of my favorite modern fighters, but that timeline just doesn't work for him. Calzaghe was just finished fighting. If he did one more, it would have likely been Dawson. There were discussions.
Yeah, bad timing but Calzaghe made a bad decision in not fighting one of the youngsters to cap his career. I don't think he really cared about legacy. Obviously more important to him was beating the legends of the sport. Fair play. The people that care so much about legacy trashed Calzaghe his entire career anyway.
Blodhemn wrote:Yeah, bad timing but Calzaghe made a bad decision in not fighting one of the youngsters to cap his career. I don't think he really cared about legacy. Obviously more important to him was beating the legends of the sport. Fair play. The people that care so much about legacy trashed Calzaghe his entire career anyway.
Definitely instead of the Jones fight. I didn't even stream that. Chad was ready to do 20/80 in Wales.
Ricky_ wrote:The more Froch talks about Joe, the more obvious it is he hates living in his shadow. He should let it go and be proud of his own legacy.
Nothing like retroactive trash-talk!!
First Froch bashes Roy Jones for staying around too long, now he's on Calzaghe for not staying around long enough so that Carl could pick on a faded Calzaghe the way Joe feasted on faded Roy Jones.
Enlightened-One wrote:Froch beats Calzaghe every day of the week and twice on a Sunday.
The Welshman rejected at least three opportunities to face the man from Nottingham, with Joe feeling that he had bigger fish to fry for comparable paydays.
Froch was never better than a prime Kessler and Calzaghe beat a prime Kessler. IMO, Calzaghe would have won comfortably. It's pretty obvious. Stylistically, Froch hasn't offered anything to show he could have won.
He was, but Calzaghe was in a completely different league when those offers were made. Calzaghe was at the end of his career, fights with Hopkins meant more, and Froch was never going north of 168 and Calzaghe was never coming down. They simply crossed at different times. Froch's career doesn't suffer from not fighting DeGale, and I don't think Calzaghe's career suffers from not fighting Froch.[/quote]
he was nothing like McGregor.