The excuse of Joshua to avoid Ortiz and Wilder is...

[SaadOffTheDeck]

Charles Martin indeed has a padded record, he simply never stood up except for one uncredebly lucky win against a cruiserweight with a lot of luck called Glazkov. Somehow on paper it's a 3 round KO and that launched him.

His opponents mostly had winning records and a few also had undefeated records. There are no big names on his record, but I don't think it is padded. I think he didn't get the opportunities such as what is happening now. He lost by knockout to the best heavyweight. So did Joe Frazier when George Foreman beat him. All I'm saying is that he should get another chance. If he loses again by knockout, then people can say that he is a pretender and not a contender. People are saying that anyway right now, but after another knockout loss, then it would be justified.

Forget his record, watch him fight. He is slow as molasses and beyond clumsy. The guy doesn't know how to box. I refuse to believe that you aren't emotionally connected to this guy at all. You usually know what you're talking about.

[RScarf1]

Forget his record, watch him fight. He is slow as molasses and beyond clumsy. The guy doesn't know how to box. I refuse to believe that you aren't emotionally connected to this guy at all. You usually know what you're talking about.

Does Wilder have perfect boxing form? Jarrell Miller is slow. If he fought Martin, he would not be able to do what he did to Washington. I know the only big name Martin fought is Joshua, but what about all the other "champions" and contenders? Have they fought anyone that is the caliber of Joshua? I'm a librarian. I am not employed in boxing as a paid job. I just don't understand the double standards that are prevalent in boxing. Wilder and Parker have not been tested yet by any legitimate top ten heavyweight. Martin's only loss is to Joshua. He has a high knockout percentage. He's faster than Miller. Miller is slower than molasses.

[KiwiRider]

That's a good description, saad. He does fight like he is in molasses. Not to mention he has no head or upper body movement and is there to be hit. That could have improved, but his last opponent was not good enough to test that.
And Rscarf, your right about Parker. He is a work in progress. If he gets through Huey, TR that's another step forward. In saying that, he has a better resume than Martin. Takem and Ruiez were very, very close and Parker went 12 with both of them. I'm not sure Martin could beat either.

[asdfjkl]

Charles Martin indeed has a padded record, he simply never stood up except for one uncredebly lucky win against a cruiserweight with a lot of luck called Glazkov. Somehow on paper it's a 3 round KO and that launched him.

His opponents mostly had winning records and a few also had undefeated records. There are no big names on his record, but I don't think it is padded. I think he didn't get the opportunities such as what is happening now. He lost by knockout to the best heavyweight. So did Joe Frazier when George Foreman beat him. All I'm saying is that he should get another chance. If he loses again by knockout, then people can say that he is a pretender and not a contender. People are saying that anyway right now, but after another knockout loss, then it would be justified.

I agree with that, I'd like to see him against Izuagbe Ugonoh for example, who's in a similar situation.

[RScarf1]

Also, Dominic Breazeale is in a similar situation and, like Martin, he also lost to Joshua by knockout.

[Stuarty]

Now, Klitschko and Tyson Fury are out.

The excuse of Joshua to avoid Ortiz (#1 WBA, #2WBC) and Wilder (WBC world champion) is ....... Pulev.

Yes, it's Pulev, the #2 IBF who became mandatory challenger for the IBF world title after that Parker the former #1 IBF and #1 WBO fight for the vacant WBO world title.
Yes, the same Pulev who was drilled by Klitschko in a one sided fight after only 5 rounds.
Yes, the same Pulev who declined a fight against Joshua last year for an unkown reason (afraid ?).
I don't be surprise if at the last time Pulev declines the fight against Joshua again.
If think that the initial plan of Pulev was to fight for the vacant IBF title against Carlos Takam ( #3 IBF) after that Joshua or Klitschko become WBA/IBF champion because he thought that the winner wants to fight Wilder, Ortiz, Fury or do a rematch in priority.

Now Josha is showing to the world that he is ducking two of the most dangerous fighters (Wilder and Ortiz) to fight a fake mandatory challenger who is very less dangerous.

You Sir are a fukk wit

[SaadOffTheDeck]

Forget his record, watch him fight. He is slow as molasses and beyond clumsy. The guy doesn't know how to box. I refuse to believe that you aren't emotionally connected to this guy at all. You usually know what you're talking about.

Does Wilder have perfect boxing form? Jarrell Miller is slow. If he fought Martin, he would not be able to do what he did to Washington. I know the only big name Martin fought is Joshua, but what about all the other "champions" and contenders? Have they fought anyone that is the caliber of Joshua? I'm a librarian. I am not employed in boxing as a paid job. I just don't understand the double standards that are prevalent in boxing. Wilder and Parker have not been tested yet by any legitimate top ten heavyweight. Martin's only loss is to Joshua. He has a high knockout percentage. He's faster than Miller. Miller is slower than molasses.

So I say forget about record and you continue to go on about it?

[SaadOffTheDeck]

That's a good description, saad. He does fight like he is in molasses. Not to mention he has no head or upper body movement and is there to be hit. That could have improved, but his last opponent was not good enough to test that.
And Rscarf, your right about Parker. He is a work in progress. If he gets through Huey, TR that's another step forward. In saying that, he has a better resume than Martin. Takem and Ruiez were very, very close and Parker went 12 with both of them. I'm not sure Martin could beat either.

I'm sure the gunshot hasn't improved him any. Past how awful he has the initial post from this guy was Wilder needs a fight to raise his profile and suggested Charles Martin. Oh well, I've had enough of this madness. On the next farce.

[asdfjkl]

Someone said AJ is ducking Wilder, and acts like Pulev is just a weak excuse for doing so, while in reality Pulev simply proved, well at least equal to what Wilder has done, if not more.

Exactly, Joshua is not ducking anybody.
He either fights his IBF mandatory (Pulev) and WBA mandatory (Ortiz) or loses the belts - quite simple to understand really.
Wilder will have to wait unless AJ decides to ditch the IBF and WBA titles and go for the WBC belt.

Well, AJ is simply waiting till Wilder stands up and fight someone, so the fight between himself and Wilder will be much bigger as it would be when they fought each other right now.
Somehow Wilder is just wasting time as long as his personal lab is suspended and after that he will fight a bum, most likely Stiverne.

Funny to read things back...