Lomachenko vs Rigo - Who Wins?

Boxerbeetle · Post by **Boxerbeetle** » 20 Aug 2017, 06:17

Fat Dan tweeting that this may finally happen. I think Lomachenko will be too big for Rigo tbh, but certainly an intriguing fight. Thoughts?

https://twitter.com/danrafaelespn/statu ... 9329790977

crusader · Post by **crusader** » 20 Aug 2017, 06:36

Loma all day

crusader · Post by **crusader** » 20 Aug 2017, 07:16

Has there ever been a pro fight between multiple time Olympic gold medalists?

pyenest77 · Post by **pyenest77** » 20 Aug 2017, 07:22

Lomachenko wins easy too big, too fresh

Taansend · Post by **Taansend** » 20 Aug 2017, 11:45

Boxerbeetle wrote:Fat Dan tweeting that this may finally happen. I think Lomachenko will be too big for Rigo tbh, but certainly an intriguing fight. Thoughts?

https://twitter.com/danrafaelespn/statu ... 9329790977

Mate

Wesshaw could learn a thing or two from you about polls

Arsenal49 · Post by **Arsenal49** » 20 Aug 2017, 11:58

Why is this in the British forum u retard

Boxerbeetle · Post by **Boxerbeetle** » 20 Aug 2017, 12:00

Arsenal49 wrote:Why is this in the British forum u retard

Work it out for yourself u retard

gilgamesh · Post by **gilgamesh** » 20 Aug 2017, 12:25

Loma as easily, and as one sided as he just schooled Walters and Marriaga pretty much. Everyone thinks Rigo is on his level, he's not.

PredatorHayds · Post by **PredatorHayds** » 20 Aug 2017, 13:15

Loma too big and fresh.

I favour Loma to stop him late.

Boxerbeetle · Post by **Boxerbeetle** » 20 Aug 2017, 13:22

Taansend wrote:
Boxerbeetle wrote:Fat Dan tweeting that this may finally happen. I think Lomachenko will be too big for Rigo tbh, but certainly an intriguing fight. Thoughts?

https://twitter.com/danrafaelespn/statu ... 9329790977
Mate

Wesshaw could learn a thing or two from you about polls

Andrew · Post by **Andrew** » 20 Aug 2017, 15:29

I don't get the clamour for this fight at all. Rigo is moving up to weight classes and will get absolutely smashed to bits.

At least I would be more interested in this than the marriaga fight.

I'd rather see the Salido rematch or Berchelt.

crusader · Post by **crusader** » 20 Aug 2017, 15:30

It's been reported that Berchelt may be out till 2018 with a hand injury.

I think this is a great risk-reward fight for Loma. He can take the 0 of the highly rated boxing master people claim everyone (including Loma) is ducking, and it will look good on his record for years to come, but in reality it's a very good bigger man vs very good smaller man scenario. I'd still be interested in the fight due to all the skill in the ring, but I'd be very confident in Loma taking it without too many issues. I think he's better P4P too...

SaadOffTheDeck · Post by **SaadOffTheDeck** » 20 Aug 2017, 15:34

I'd be interested in it, not exactly clamoring for it. I don't see the size being as much of a problem for rigondeaux as lomachenko's activity.

crusader · Post by **crusader** » 20 Aug 2017, 15:37

I agree. I've seen people mention that Arum is afraid of making it because of what Rigo did to Donaire, but Donaire is the type of loads up, picks his moments fighter whose pace is made for Rigo. Loma is fast shot after fast shot from different angles...

gilgamesh · Post by **gilgamesh** » 20 Aug 2017, 15:52

crusader wrote:I agree. I've seen people mention that Arum is afraid of making it because of what Rigo did to Donaire, but Donaire is the type of loads up, picks his moments fighter whose pace is made for Rigo. Loma is fast shot after fast shot from different angles...

Also I've personally never seen a fighter able to use foot movement to set up angles to attack from more efficiently than Loma. Off the top of my head it's hard to even think of fighters that have matched him in this regard, but NONE have surpassed him. His foot movement, and ability to get himself in range for his offense is second to none.

Counter-puncher · Post by **Counter-puncher** » 20 Aug 2017, 15:56

All true but you haven't yet seen Loma against anyone with Rigondeux's footspeed, which will go some way to offsetting Lomas aggressive footwork.

SaadOffTheDeck · Post by **SaadOffTheDeck** » 20 Aug 2017, 16:09

crusader wrote:I agree. I've seen people mention that Arum is afraid of making it because of what Rigo did to Donaire, but Donaire is the type of loads up, picks his moments fighter whose pace is made for Rigo. Loma is fast shot after fast shot from different angles...

They're probably the same people that called me an idiot for not having Donaire top 5 p4p. His stay at #2 was the most overrated in the mythical rankings history.

gilgamesh · Post by **gilgamesh** » 20 Aug 2017, 16:12

Counter-puncher wrote:All true but you haven't yet seen Loma against anyone with Rigondeux's footspeed, which will go some way to offsetting Lomas aggressive footwork.

It won't. Lomachenko is gonna own him.

SaadOffTheDeck · Post by **SaadOffTheDeck** » 20 Aug 2017, 16:19

Counter-puncher wrote:All true but you haven't yet seen Loma against anyone with Rigondeux's footspeed, which will go some way to offsetting Lomas aggressive footwork.

Good point, I don't think it will pose that much of a problem, but you never know. Holyfield probably had the best footwork to deliver shots during exchanges I've ever seen and he was quite susceptible to movement with quick guys. Though he was also more of a counter puncher than Lomachenko.

Counter-puncher · Post by **Counter-puncher** » 20 Aug 2017, 17:07

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:
Counter-puncher wrote:All true but you haven't yet seen Loma against anyone with Rigondeux's footspeed, which will go some way to offsetting Lomas aggressive footwork.
Good point, I don't think it will pose that much of a problem, but you never know. Holyfield probably had the best footwork to deliver shots during exchanges I've ever seen and he was quite susceptible to movement with quick guys. Though he was also more of a counter puncher than Lomachenko.

I just think people need to imagine how much faster Rigo is than the guys Loma has been scooting round at angles with ease. Literally no comparison between the footwork of Rigo and say Martinez or Walters

I don't think Rigo wins, and Lomas activity will still be his kryptonite, but I figure Lomas activity will be 25% down on his normal level as he takes longer to corner Rigo for exchanges and has to give some respect for Rigos trap-setting abilities

Counter-puncher · Post by **Counter-puncher** » 20 Aug 2017, 17:08

gilgamesh wrote:
Counter-puncher wrote:All true but you haven't yet seen Loma against anyone with Rigondeux's footspeed, which will go some way to offsetting Lomas aggressive footwork.
It won't. Lomachenko is gonna own him.

It won't what?

Counter-puncher · Post by **Counter-puncher** » 20 Aug 2017, 17:11

Also worth noting that Loma has a lot of success ghosting outside the (stationary) lead foot of orthodox guys to get his angle, he won't have that against fellow-lefty/ farthest possible thing from stationary target in Rigo.

SaadOffTheDeck · Post by **SaadOffTheDeck** » 20 Aug 2017, 18:00

Counter-puncher wrote:
SaadOffTheDeck wrote:
Counter-puncher wrote:All true but you haven't yet seen Loma against anyone with Rigondeux's footspeed, which will go some way to offsetting Lomas aggressive footwork.
Good point, I don't think it will pose that much of a problem, but you never know. Holyfield probably had the best footwork to deliver shots during exchanges I've ever seen and he was quite susceptible to movement with quick guys. Though he was also more of a counter puncher than Lomachenko.
I just think people need to imagine how much faster Rigo is than the guys Loma has been scooting round at angles with ease. Literally no comparison between the footwork of Rigo and say Martinez or Walters

I don't think Rigo wins, and Lomas activity will still be his kryptonite, but I figure Lomas activity will be 25% down on his normal level as he takes longer to corner Rigo for exchanges and has to give some respect for Rigos trap-setting abilities

I agree, but even if his activity is cut in half he'll still be more active than rigo. He certainly won't be able to embarrass him.

Counter-puncher · Post by **Counter-puncher** » 20 Aug 2017, 18:04

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:
Counter-puncher wrote:
SaadOffTheDeck wrote:
Good point, I don't think it will pose that much of a problem, but you never know. Holyfield probably had the best footwork to deliver shots during exchanges I've ever seen and he was quite susceptible to movement with quick guys. Though he was also more of a counter puncher than Lomachenko.
I just think people need to imagine how much faster Rigo is than the guys Loma has been scooting round at angles with ease. Literally no comparison between the footwork of Rigo and say Martinez or Walters

I don't think Rigo wins, and Lomas activity will still be his kryptonite, but I figure Lomas activity will be 25% down on his normal level as he takes longer to corner Rigo for exchanges and has to give some respect for Rigos trap-setting abilities
I agree, but even if his activity is cut in half he'll still be more active than rigo. He certainly won't be able to embarrass him.

indeed. Lomas right hand will be much much more active too which is often key between lefties

Oiky · Post by **Oiky** » 21 Aug 2017, 04:08

Lomachenkos fight all day long