Crawford vs Indongo is a hell of a fight! How this one is gonna play out ?

[punchoutsb]

Maidana literally turned him over and pumped his ass. He's tough as nails, he might be able to last the distance and lose every round against Crawford. Broner can't win at that level.

He'd lose every second of every round against Crawford. Could AB beat Ricky Burns?

Maidana was better than Indongo too.

He probably would beat Burns. Of course Maidana was better than Indongo. I guess I jumped in during the middle of a conversation. Though saying Broner proved himself at the top of three divisions is a pretty big stretch. He's been owned by every top fighter he's fought.

I said he proved he could could hang with the top, not that he could beat the top. The whole reason I brought him up and not another 140 is because he's been owned by the top fighters he fought. And in him being owned it typically means losing a somewhat competitive decision, not getting starched in the third round.

[gilgamesh]

Broner has proven he can hang with the top in three divisions, Indongo has not.

Broner has proven that to you? He hasn't proven that to me.

Indongo would beat him.

Who has steamrolled AB? We just saw him lose to the real #2 at 140, and he took a few rounds. He wasn't left rolling on the canvas holding his little tummy within the first quarter of the fight.

If you're going to be a crude brawler with wide winging shots you'd better be able to punch and take a punch. Aside from one result, Indongo hasn't shown he can do either. This isn't Namibia anymore.

OFFICIALLY Broner took a few rounds, the judges were generous. I had Mikey winning a shutout. Broner was never in the fight with Garcia at any point.

Guys insisting that Broner is better than he is, is why he's gonna keep getting put in matches where he's gonna get his ass kicked for a while to come.

Hopefully Broner vs Indongo or something like that is next. I don't need to see any more guys at the top beat Broner. I know Broner doesn't belong in with those guys, now I want to see just where Broner actually is, and exactly how far below the top guys he is. It's farther than most think. At Welterweight he wouldn't even be Top 15 anymore. He's on the back end of the Top 10 at 140 IMO.

[SaadOffTheDeck]

He'd lose every second of every round against Crawford. Could AB beat Ricky Burns?

Maidana was better than Indongo too.

He probably would beat Burns. Of course Maidana was better than Indongo. I guess I jumped in during the middle of a conversation. Though saying Broner proved himself at the top of three divisions is a pretty big stretch. He's been owned by every top fighter he's fought.

I said he proved he could could hang with the top, not that he could beat the top. The whole reason I brought him up and not another 140 is because he's been owned by the top fighters he fought. And in him being owned it typically means losing a somewhat competitive decision, not getting starched in the third round.

Yeah, that's a big stretch.

[punchoutsb]

It's fine, I can't stand AB so I won't "defend" him here.

If beating Burns and Troyanovsky makes you the second best at 140 then that's fine with me, I'll admit I was wrong. He's a power punching wildman with 11 whole knockouts. I actually like his style, it'll be fun to see him against some of the other 140 guys.

[gilgamesh]

It's fine, I can't stand AB so I won't "defend" him here.

If beating Burns and Troyanovsky makes you the second best at 140 then that's fine with me, I'll admit I was wrong. He's a power punching wildman with 11 whole knockouts. I actually like his style, it'll be fun to see him against some of the other 140 guys.

Beating Troyanovsky made him #2.

Beating Burns just gave him another win and belt.

140 is not deep at all right now.

Terence Crawford is the undisputed Champion.

The next 3 contenders in line are Mikey Garcia, Indongo (whom he just beat last night), and Adrian Granados & Orozco.

I've never seen the 140 pound division be weaker in all my time as a fan honestly.

[apollo creed]

Indongo was no joke. He was very tall, rangy, awkward, fast and had a sneaky left hand. Just because TC is a stellar fighter it doesn't mean that Indongo was a bum. If Crawford can get Garcia that would be awesome.

[SaadOffTheDeck]

It's fine, I can't stand AB so I won't "defend" him here.

If beating Burns and Troyanovsky makes you the second best at 140 then that's fine with me, I'll admit I was wrong. He's a power punching wildman with 11 whole knockouts. I actually like his style, it'll be fun to see him against some of the other 140 guys.

I've never thought highly of Indongo. Whomever is #2 is a marathon behind #1 so it doesn't really matter.

[gilgamesh]

Indongo was no joke. He very was tall, rangy, awkward, fast and had a sneaky left hand. Just because TC is a stellar fighter it doesn't mean that Indongo was a bum. If Crawford can get Garcia that would be awesome.

Which Garcia? Mikey or Danny? He's moving up to 147, didn't you hear him?

[Tanzio]

Indongo was no joke. He very was tall, rangy, awkward, fast and had a sneaky left hand. Just because TC is a stellar fighter it doesn't mean that Indongo was a bum. If Crawford can get Garcia that would be awesome.

Which Garcia? Mikey or Danny? He's moving up to 147, didn't you hear him?

Either or both would work.

[apollo creed]

Indongo was no joke. He very was tall, rangy, awkward, fast and had a sneaky left hand. Just because TC is a stellar fighter it doesn't mean that Indongo was a bum. If Crawford can get Garcia that would be awesome.

Which Garcia? Mikey or Danny? He's moving up to 147, didn't you hear him?

M Garcia but D Garcia won't be bad at all.

[Mexi-Box]

Indongo was no joke. He was very tall, rangy, awkward, fast and had a sneaky left hand. Just because TC is a stellar fighter it doesn't mean that Indongo was a bum. If Crawford can get Garcia that would be awesome.

He's not that good. Lipinets would've beaten him.

[Best Coast]

Indongo was no joke. He was very tall, rangy, awkward, fast and had a sneaky left hand. Just because TC is a stellar fighter it doesn't mean that Indongo was a bum.

Couldnt have said it better myself!! Everyone is down on Indongo just because a future HOFer named Terence Crawford made him look like a 'bum'!!

That's one thing about special fighters: They make good fighters look like bums!!

[punchoutsb]

Indongo was no joke. He was very tall, rangy, awkward, fast and had a sneaky left hand. Just because TC is a stellar fighter it doesn't mean that Indongo was a bum.

Couldnt have said it better myself!! Everyone is down on Indongo just because a future HOFer named Terence Crawford made him look like a 'bum'!!

That's one thing about special fighters: They make good fighters look like bums!!

I haven't seen anyone call Indongo a bum or a joke. I've seen people overrate him based off one punch, I've seen people overrate him based on two wins. He's a good scrapper, but his style doesn't lend itself to what he actually has.

[Best Coast]

Crawford vs Garcia would be a quality matchup, but I think I'd rather see the two fighters take different paths.

Crawford to 147 where several interesting challenges await him

Garcia to fight Loma or Linares at 135, before returning to 140 to try to take that division over.

Without Crawford I see Mikey ruling the 140s for the foreseeable future. I would like to see him fight Loma first, but I dont think Arum would ever let that happen!!

Mikey will end up back at Lightweight.

Tough to imagine Mikey ending his career at 135 after looking so good vs Broner at 140...

Any particular reason you say that or just a hunch?

[SaadOffTheDeck]

Without Crawford I see Mikey ruling the 140s for the foreseeable future. I would like to see him fight Loma first, but I dont think Arum would ever let that happen!!

Mikey will end up back at Lightweight.

Tough to imagine Mikey ending his career at 135 after looking so good vs Broner at 140...

Any particular reason you say that or just a hunch?

I don't think his career will end at that weight, that's just where he'd prefer to fight. Not a hunch, based off of his comments. He said before the Broner fight his plans were to go back down. He'll certainly take a big fight at the higher weights, but he's most comfortable at Lightweight.

[Best Coast]

Indongo was no joke. He was very tall, rangy, awkward, fast and had a sneaky left hand. Just because TC is a stellar fighter it doesn't mean that Indongo was a bum.

Couldnt have said it better myself!! Everyone is down on Indongo just because a future HOFer named Terence Crawford made him look like a 'bum'!!

That's one thing about special fighters: They make good fighters look like bums!!

I haven't seen anyone call Indongo a bum or a joke. I've seen people overrate him based off one punch, I've seen people overrate him based on two wins. He's a good scrapper, but his style doesn't lend itself to what he actually has.

If you go through some of the earlier posts there were some who actually used the word bum. I dont have time or energy to go through 8 pages of posts to ferret them out, but if you've got that kind of time on your hands feel free to do that...

The caveat is that the jury will be out on Indongo until his career has played out, but I think he may have a tough time bouncing back from such a devastating blowout. The thing on his side is that it was body shots that took him out, so at least he didnt have his "chin cracked" like Fernando Vargas did vs Trinidad.

[punchoutsb]

Couldnt have said it better myself!! Everyone is down on Indongo just because a future HOFer named Terence Crawford made him look like a 'bum'!!

That's one thing about special fighters: They make good fighters look like bums!!

I haven't seen anyone call Indongo a bum or a joke. I've seen people overrate him based off one punch, I've seen people overrate him based on two wins. He's a good scrapper, but his style doesn't lend itself to what he actually has.

If you go through some of the earlier posts there were some who actually used the word bum. I dont have time or energy to go through 8 pages of posts to ferret them out, but if you've got that kind of time on your hands feel free to do that...

The caveat is that the jury will be out on Indongo until his career has played out, but I think he may have a tough time bouncing back from such a devastating blowout. The thing on his side is that it was body shots that took him out, so at least he didnt have his "chin cracked" like Fernando Vargas did vs Trinidad.

Anyone calling him a bum is mistaken or prone to hyperbole.

It'll be interesting who they get him in with next. He's had a soft journey until his last three fights. We still don't know very much about Indongo. I think we've probably already seen the best of him.

[Best Coast]

Mikey will end up back at Lightweight.

Tough to imagine Mikey ending his career at 135 after looking so good vs Broner at 140...

Any particular reason you say that or just a hunch?

I don't think his career will end at that weight, that's just where he'd prefer to fight. Not a hunch, based off of his comments. He said before the Broner fight his plans were to go back down. He'll certainly take a big fight at the higher weights, but he's most comfortable at Lightweight.

Valid points, especially when you consider his biggest money fight could turn out to be Lomachenko, which would be at 135 if it ever came off.

[Best Coast]

I haven't seen anyone call Indongo a bum or a joke. I've seen people overrate him based off one punch, I've seen people overrate him based on two wins. He's a good scrapper, but his style doesn't lend itself to what he actually has.

If you go through some of the earlier posts there were some who actually used the word bum. I dont have time or energy to go through 8 pages of posts to ferret them out, but if you've got that kind of time on your hands feel free to do that...

The caveat is that the jury will be out on Indongo until his career has played out, but I think he may have a tough time bouncing back from such a devastating blowout. The thing on his side is that it was body shots that took him out, so at least he didnt have his "chin cracked" like Fernando Vargas did vs Trinidad.

Anyone calling him a bum is mistaken or prone to hyperbole.

It'll be interesting who they get him in with next. He's had a soft journey until his last three fights. We still don't know very much about Indongo. I think we've probably already seen the best of him.

Time will tell. It takes a special fighter to bounce back from such a discouraging loss. Now we'll see what he's made of in terms of dedication to his craft...many guys would hang it up right here, but I dont want to count him out yet.

[asdfjkl]

I just looked at it for the first time, "3, 4, 5, are you oke? Do you want to continue?" "stop stop stop, did he hit you on the back of your head?"
What is this for kind of ref :S?!

Then I look at the Whyte-tang or whatever his name was fight, and that ref waits till 10, then walks to the corner, asks a few questions, every knock down takes about 20 seconds lol.

It's very obvious the Americans still continue to do sad and unfair things in boxing.
Nevertheless, Crawford was the better boxer.

[caldo2025]

Indongo was no joke. He was very tall, rangy, awkward, fast and had a sneaky left hand. Just because TC is a stellar fighter it doesn't mean that Indongo was a bum. If Crawford can get Garcia that would be awesome.

Indongo is exactly what i would call a joke fighter. That performance was disgusting as I could tell he was looking for a way out of that fight from the second he began his ring walk. From the opening bell, he swung like a caveman with his chin high and no defense whatsoever. After the first body shot almost dropped him, i knew the next one would do it.

Crawford is awesome and it's going to take a supreme boxer to compete with him at any weight he decides to stay at. But don't be selling this Indongo crap anymore. I know a good fighter from a bad one. Thanks though. I will guarantee this guy doesn't win another world title.