Horse's British & Irish Top 30 P4P August 2017

[Zubrei]

I love horse's ranking, not because of the ranking but his response to critisism. Genius.

Oh and obligatory critiscism....Wot no Kristian Laight, or Chris Adway (http://boxrec.com/en/boxer/698784) he got a win in his last fight, he should be higher than Khan and Brook.

[Zubrei]

Oh and Danny Williams won his last fight. You know he once beat Tyson, surely he should be top 30.
http://boxrec.com/en/boxer/6522

[brian13]

Ryan Burnett that low is a piss take. He is a World Champion. He deserves to be way higher, how many world title fights has Martin Murray lost again. Burnett won the title at his first crack.

Katie Taylor deserves to be in the list, on the verge of a World title and has dismantled most (if not) all of her opponents.

[crusader]

Taylor's opponents:

4-8
5-0
9-7-1
6-6
9-1
7-14-3

Only two of them still have winning records. If you want to include women, fine, but hold them to the same standards...who is the best fighter she's beaten? Little Nina Mienke?

[Andrew]

Ryan Burnett that low is a piss take. He is a World Champion. He deserves to be way higher, how many world title fights has Martin Murray lost again. Burnett won the title at his first crack.

Katie Taylor deserves to be in the list, on the verge of a World title and has dismantled most (if not) all of her opponents.

I agree with Horse on Burnett.

It's more down to Haskins not being a strong champion.

If Ryan beats ZZ convincingly he has to be top 5 for me though.

[brian13]

Ryan Burnett that low is a piss take. He is a World Champion. He deserves to be way higher, how many world title fights has Martin Murray lost again. Burnett won the title at his first crack.

Katie Taylor deserves to be in the list, on the verge of a World title and has dismantled most (if not) all of her opponents.

I agree with Horse on Burnett.

It's more down to Haskins not being a strong champion.

If Ryan beats ZZ convincingly he has to be top 5 for me though.

Ok, on that logic then BJS must be dropped considerably. He is the worst world champion in the UK right now. I would put him on that logic 25 behind Burns and Cleverly. If Cleverly is that low as a World champion, BJS must go below him. Cleverly has fought way too much better fighters than BJS.

[Realistic]

Oh dear. Have you offended someone with some power around here?

I think I might have to leave the forum.

Utter morons are given moderating powers.

This forum is a shadow of its former self.

[ILikeBeer]

I still don't understand what the big deal with having the word "Irish" in the title is?

[ILikeBeer]

Is Horse really FW ?

Allegedly.

[rd350lc]

Is Horse really FW ?

Allegedly.

[Andrew]

Ryan Burnett that low is a piss take. He is a World Champion. He deserves to be way higher, how many world title fights has Martin Murray lost again. Burnett won the title at his first crack.

Katie Taylor deserves to be in the list, on the verge of a World title and has dismantled most (if not) all of her opponents.

I agree with Horse on Burnett.

It's more down to Haskins not being a strong champion.

If Ryan beats ZZ convincingly he has to be top 5 for me though.

Ok, on that logic then BJS must be dropped considerably. He is the worst world champion in the UK right now. I would put him on that logic 25 behind Burns and Cleverly. If Cleverly is that low as a World champion, BJS must go below him. Cleverly has fought way too much better fighters than BJS.

Cleverly is not a world champion. Andre Ward and Adonis Stevenson are the only world champions at light heavy.

I had the Braehmer fight level when it ended and he hasn't fought this year which is a joke itself. Right now BJS should be lower for sure, his career has been a joke since getting the WBO belt.

I think a list can be difficult because a lot of guys don't have any stand out wins recently. That why if Burnett beats ZZ convincingly I can't see anyway he would not move up to top 5.

[Jackson328]

First page of this thread was so funny I spat coffee all over my laptop, Horse's replies were so hysterical and hilarious and I didn't even get most of the title-change stuff! Horse is one of my favourite posters for several reasons

btw AJ should be numero uno imho and Tyson Fury should not be on the list at all right now, just saying . . . .

[Covfefe]

Is it not normally called British and Irish?

Never noticed before.

[ILikeBeer]

Is it not normally called British and Irish?

Never noticed before.

I don't know. I don't think anybody understands what it was he was upset about, to be fair.

[Horse]

I don't know. I don't think anybody understands what it was he was upset about, to be fair.

Then they're thick.

[ILikeBeer]

I don't know. I don't think anybody understands what it was he was upset about, to be fair.

Then they're thick.

He's at it again.

[Crazyboy]

Is horse or anyone else seriously that bothered about it being changed?

Honestly people need to get out more...its a title of a thread on a boxing forum for gods sake.

[Horse]

Is horse or anyone else seriously that bothered about it being changed?

Honestly people need to get out more...its a title of a thread on a boxing forum for gods sake.

Get out more and do what?

What are we allowed to care about, Crazyboy?

[Crazyboy]

Is horse or anyone else seriously that bothered about it being changed?

Honestly people need to get out more...its a title of a thread on a boxing forum for gods sake.

Get out more and do what?

What are we allowed to care about, Crazyboy?

You can care about what you want? are you really that bothered by someone changing the title of a thread?

Seems mad to me but each to their own fella, as you were then.

[Horse]

You can care about what you want? are you really that bothered by someone changing the title of a thread?

Yes.

Seems mad to me but each to their own fella, as you were then.

Not mad at all.

[Old Jack J]

To be fair, Horse does this list every month for as long as I have been on here. It always encourages discussion and a few laughs along the way. If he is willing to put the work in every month to do it then it should be respected. The title should not be messed with.

As for the list, Martin Murray is too high and we have the Tyson Fury debacle. Bellews record looks better than his performances. Probably too high when you look at pure boxing ability but he has those wins under his belt. Other than that it looks pretty good to me.

[keithmoonhangover]

Any comments/criticisms of the British Top 30 P4P list are very welcome.

Tyson Fury has no licence, can't pass a piss test, hasn't fought for nearly two years and is retired. What more does he have to do to be removed from your ratings?