de la hoya VS tszyu

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de la hoya VS tszyu

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both in their prime .. who win's and why ??

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We're talking 140 I assume?

Oscar would getting the better of it early on, his quicker hands and attacks would be giving him the edge early and he'd be piling up points, but Tszyu had the superior stamina of the two, and I think Oscar would be a little leary of Tszyu's power, and would therefore being fighting at the more measured pace that Tszyu prefers. I can see Tszyu starting to get himself into the fight around the 5th or 6th round, and gradually landing more and more heavy blows on Oscar over the 2nd half of the bout. Oscar was tough as hell so he stands up to Tszyu's shots, and still continues to land his share, and probably take a few rounds as well, but Tszyu would take more of 'em over the 2nd half. The question is would it be enough to overcome Oscar's early lead?

Depending on where the fight would be taking place, as it would be pretty close, and competitive.

Assuming it was taking place in Las Vegas, Oscar De La Hoya wins a UD

Assuming it was taking place in Neutral territory, Draw or Tszyu wins a Split Decision

Assuming it was taking place in Australia, Kostya Tszyu wins a Split Decision
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Thats a fair prediction Gil. I dont think Tszyu could afford a slow start and rely on breaking down DLH late.

I would predict DLH pulling it off by a round or two. Though close rounds could see it a draw.

Shame it never happened, would have been a good contest regardless, both were p4ps around that time if im not mistaken.
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I don't know if Tszyu would necessarily start slowly, but I think he'd lose the early rounds anyway whether he started slowly or not because Oscar would be sharper in the early going.
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It was a shame Mosely went from lightweight to Welterweight to fight De La Hoya without fighting Tszyu at 140. Would have been a good one also.
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fox wrote:It was a shame Mosely went from lightweight to Welterweight to fight De La Hoya without fighting Tszyu at 140. Would have been a good one also.
Lots of guys bypassed Tszyu.
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DLH a bit too good. Close UD
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bollocks wrote:DLH a bit too good. Close UD
Agree
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Not sure if they ever clashed in the amateurs but I think Kostya was the better of the 2 in the singlets even though Oscar won an Olympic Gold medal. Kostya's only chance at the olympics was a loss in the 2nd or 3rd rounds in 88 as a 17 year old to his old rival Andreas Zuelow. The 91 world champs Kostya won gold over Vernon Forrest where Oscar lost in the early rounds. I know it's a different ball game but a lot of these top pros seen how good Kostya was then and avoided him a bit. Would have been a great fight but in my opinion, Kostya would have worked him out and broke him down over time with his hard, pinpoint punches as Kostya was a very intelligent fighter. Definitely a fight worth seeing I think.
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Not taking anything away from Kostya, but im not sure he was particularly avoided by the big guys. Tszyu was at the height of his popularity when he became inactive, cant remember if was entirely due to the surgury on his hands but it was definately a factor. Rumours of some kind of superfight involving Tszyu floated about the last few years of his career, it just never came about. He was supposedly looking beyond Hatton to tee up a final bout with Mayweather Jnr.... but Hatton obviously won, had a few fights stateside then fought Mayweather himself....
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Time and Hype , are funny things , Has good has Kosta was and he was brilliant , Time sort of makes you look back without the hype , and personaly i think Oscar was far better , he fought guys in there prime and outboxed them ,had a granite chin and hit hard enough to worry Kosta .. I know i used to watch Kosta and think , fok he needs a ko and he would get it . , But he was'nt has invincible has the hype suggeste d , he got stopped , when he could'nt stop Forrest , and Hatton on reflection just done to him what he done to others , out muscled , out punched , and broke him mentaly .
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coneye wrote:Time and Hype , are funny things , Has good has Kosta was and he was brilliant , Time sort of makes you look back without the hype , and personaly i think Oscar was far better , he fought guys in there prime and outboxed them ,had a granite chin and hit hard enough to worry Kosta .. I know i used to watch Kosta and think , fok he needs a ko and he would get it . , But he was'nt has invincible has the hype suggeste d , he got stopped , when he could'nt stop Forrest , and Hatton on reflection just done to him what he done to others , out muscled , out punched , and broke him mentaly .
He lost to Vince Phillips. He beat Vernon Forrest in the amateurs. He only fought 3 rounds in about 2 years before he fought Hatton. The longer the fight went the more the inactivity was going to go against him. JMO.
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fox wrote:
coneye wrote:Time and Hype , are funny things , Has good has Kosta was and he was brilliant , Time sort of makes you look back without the hype , and personaly i think Oscar was far better , he fought guys in there prime and outboxed them ,had a granite chin and hit hard enough to worry Kosta .. I know i used to watch Kosta and think , fok he needs a ko and he would get it . , But he was'nt has invincible has the hype suggeste d , he got stopped , when he could'nt stop Forrest , and Hatton on reflection just done to him what he done to others , out muscled , out punched , and broke him mentaly .
He lost to Vince Phillips. He beat Vernon Forrest in the amateurs. He only fought 3 rounds in about 2 years before he fought Hatton. The longer the fight went the more the inactivity was going to go against him. JMO.

Your correct , i posted before i was thinking , but he still got stopped when he could'nt pull the ko out the bag , which he did on a few other occsaions while appearing to be behind on points , at the time i thought it was brilliance , but after the hype is gone , i can't help but think Oscar and others would not of allowed him to ko them , all conjecture and he was a great boxer , i watched him has an ameteur in Sydney and was mesmerized by his skill , which to be honest i thought he tended to lose a bit has a pro. Regards Hatton , fair enough he had'nt fought and did come of a crook shoulder , but Hatton himself personaly i never thought he was as good has the poms thought he was, i seen Hatton has a European level fighter who had the backing go get gto fight whoever he wanted . , when he reached the elite world level he got stopped .
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