Round-By-Round - Nathan Cleverly vs. Badou Jack - August 26th 2017

Cleverly vs. Jack Winner?

Poll ended at 06 Jun 2017, 14:25

Nathan Cleverly
19
28%
Badou Jack
50
72%
 
Total votes: 69

handsofstone
Cruiserweight
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Re: Nathan Cleverly vs. Badou Jack - August 26th 2017

Post by handsofstone »

Naandrew wrote:
Realistic wrote:
Naandrew wrote:
Completely disagree.

Jack for me is one of the most underrated fighters in the sport. He should be lineal super middleweight champion as well.

Time and time again Jack gets written off. The whole forum including myself thought Groves was going to run through him.

I think Cleverly pre Kovalev may have stood a chance but I think Jack is going to stop him around 9-10.


Bivol is mandated to fight the winner straight away as he stood aside for the fight to happen.

No way a stoppage, Badu couldn't knock out a W ank
:OhYes:
fair play Naandrew I thought this was gonna be one of those rare ones when you prove everyone wrong, although I must say I never thought everyone would write off Cleverly
geronimo
Super Middleweight
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Re: Round-By-Round - Nathan Cleverly vs. Badou Jack - August 26th 2017

Post by geronimo »

Cleverly was in trouble, but the stoppage was premature. Anyway, i think that the welshman has nothing more to give, i hope he retires.
Andrew
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Re: Nathan Cleverly vs. Badou Jack - August 26th 2017

Post by Andrew »

handsofstone wrote:
Naandrew wrote:
Realistic wrote:

No way a stoppage, Badu couldn't knock out a W ank
:OhYes:
fair play Naandrew I thought this was gonna be one of those rare ones when you prove everyone wrong, although I must say I never thought everyone would write off Cleverly
Jack is way too criminally underated.

I had him in my top 10 p4p list before the fight. His resume is criminally underated.

He should be lineal super middleweight champion as he beat Degale fair and square. His performance against Groves just seems to have gone under the radar. That's two wins against guys in their prime, which too many fighters don't do.

He clearly beat that drug cheat Bute as well.

However Bivol is mandatory and they have to agree a deal shortly. That's a 50/50 fight IMO. I've been are of Bivol since his 4th fight and think he is highly talented but Jack is his true acid test.

As for Clev he may as well pack it in. Not like there is a fight at home for him to go back to either.

His performance in the Bellew rematch really ruined his career though.
Bigdogsnose
Middleweight
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Re: Nathan Cleverly vs. Badou Jack - August 26th 2017

Post by Bigdogsnose »

CaptainSpacerod wrote:
Bigdogsnose wrote:i don't think its a lack of heart that's does for cleverly - more lack of ambition and self belief to fully impress the best of himself in a fight. He can make a very good living out of boxing just doing enough to stay relevant. he is a world champion, but I don't think you can say he grabbed his opportunity with both hands- kind of got handed too him a little. He'll hang with Jack, but not do enough to beat him.

To me Bellew 2 showed where he is at. The move up to cruiserweight was clearly fabricated to build that fight. He never should have moved up but accepted he needed to as that was the money fight, and that he was probably going to lose to a lesser fighter by doing so. Kovalev knocked the ambition to be the best out of him. But the Bellew, fonfara and braehmer fights showed he does have heart and toughness.
Excellent analysis of Clev :TU:
Cheers, regressed further than we thought. Glad he's called it a day!
keirw
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Re: Round-By-Round - Nathan Cleverly vs. Badou Jack - August 26th 2017

Post by keirw »

Just got round to watching it, I was expecting a twelve round punch fest that Jack wins due to superior variety and technique.

It looked to be going that way for the first couple of rounds, but I was very surprised by the way Cleverly began to wilt in the fourth.

Credit to Jack, gets better everytime I see him.
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