Does McGregor Deserve Respect from Boxing Fans?

Does McGregor deserve some respect?

Yes - he showed some skill and ability in his debut vs an elite fighter.
31
56%
No - he got badly beaten up by a brittle-handed old man who weighed 25lb less.
24
44%
 
Total votes: 55

USMCer
Welterweight
Posts: 106
Joined: 04 Dec 2015, 02:33

Re: Does McGregor Deserve Respect from Boxing Fans?

Post by USMCer »

Do 47 other Mayweather opponents "deserve respect" from Boxing fans?

:maybe:
Kilsby
Cruiserweight
Posts: 467
Joined: 09 Sep 2010, 08:52

Re: Does McGregor Deserve Respect from Boxing Fans?

Post by Kilsby »

Respect?

Mayweather pawed with McGregor like a cat would with a dead mouse

He had zero respect for his famed punching power.
Tanzio
Light Heavyweight
Posts: 12264
Joined: 04 Feb 2012, 09:17

Re: Does McGregor Deserve Respect from Boxing Fans?

Post by Tanzio »

Kilsby wrote:Respect?

Mayweather pawed with McGregor like a cat would with a dead mouse

He had zero respect for his famed punching power.
What a load of crap. FMJ had issues finding the range. He was cautious and respectful of McG's counters. There was no cat with a dead mouse scenario. FMJ let him tire and then took him apart. Giving up the first few rounds was part of that strategy.

Even when FMJ had McG exhausted and nearly out on his feet he was missing a lot of his power shots right up to the finish. McG was awkward and difficult to get inside on.

Boxing enthusiasts belittling McG's performance are pretty hypocritical. How many of us thought before the fight that McG would land a counter uppercut nearly on the button v FMJ? How many believed that McG would win a round?

McG exceeded the expectations of most of boxing's hardcore, if we are being honest.
crusader
Heavyweight
Heavyweight
Posts: 16875
Joined: 19 Jan 2009, 20:14

Re: Does McGregor Deserve Respect from Boxing Fans?

Post by crusader »

Yes! Another 'he ain't getting enough respec!' rant from Tanzio

What was worse T, the lack of respect for McG after he beat Diaz, or the lack of respect here?
USMCer
Welterweight
Posts: 106
Joined: 04 Dec 2015, 02:33

Re: Does McGregor Deserve Respect from Boxing Fans?

Post by USMCer »

Ricky_ wrote:I've long bashed the UFC as being nothing but unskilled brawlers on here before, so I fully wanted and expected Floyd to make a clown out of McGregor - who i believed would have zero defence, awful footwork, an unbalanced stance, a chin hanging in the air, etc. I wanted to be proven right by seeing McGregor really embarrass himself and his sport.

But, that wasn't the case imo. A rusty Floyd, in the first 6 minutes, found himself in with a sharper boxer, someone who surprised him picking some counter uppercuts, that was accurately jabbing.

I begrudgingly admit that McGregor brought more to the table than most of us are probably willing to admit. In fact the only thing he had going for him - his power - was non-existant, probably due to having slower hands with the weight of the gloves/wraps, but the technical areas we all thought he would be weak in, he proved he learned enough - in 12 weeks - to hang-in there for 4 or 5 rounds with a master pugilist at the highest level the sport gets. I thought he was very impressive given the rather unusual circumstances.
As an MMA fan, I appreciate the sentiment.

I expected Floyd to get the TKO by the 6th (corner stoppage or doctor stoppage), but I felt that Conor did have a legitimate chance, if everything went right.

My wishful thinking was: Conor keeping Floyd guessing with different stances, keeping range, bodying-up/smothering Floyd's attacks... using the straight lefts to the body and head (Zab Judah style)... using over-aching shots (Maidana-style)... and at some point stunning Floyd in the early rounds, and jumping all over it.

It never happened. Conor never went to his 'big weapon'. We never even saw that "Celtic Cross," that fully extended straight left like he uses in MMA.

I think he thought he would be going all 12 rounds, so he never went all out. He pecked and popped, landed nice Jabs, one or two big uppercuts, but was much more measured than expected. And maybe he didn't, cuz its Floyd Mayweather, and he'd be countered, etc... but ultimately he just never completely opened up, or went all out.

Image Image
Last edited by USMCer on 28 Aug 2017, 18:18, edited 3 times in total.
Kilsby
Cruiserweight
Posts: 467
Joined: 09 Sep 2010, 08:52

Re: Does McGregor Deserve Respect from Boxing Fans?

Post by Kilsby »

Tanzio wrote:
Kilsby wrote:Respect?

Mayweather pawed with McGregor like a cat would with a dead mouse

He had zero respect for his famed punching power.
What a load of crap. FMJ had issues finding the range. He was cautious and respectful of McG's counters. There was no cat with a dead mouse scenario. FMJ let him tire and then took him apart. Giving up the first few rounds was part of that strategy.

Even when FMJ had McG exhausted and nearly out on his feet he was missing a lot of his power shots right up to the finish. McG was awkward and difficult to get inside on.

Boxing enthusiasts belittling McG's performance are pretty hypocritical. How many of us thought before the fight that McG would land a counter uppercut nearly on the button v FMJ? How many believed that McG would win a round?

McG exceeded the expectations of most of boxing's hardcore, if we are being honest.
Oh c'mon.... We all knew McGregor was going to go for Mayweather in the first couple of rounds.

So did Mayweather.

Mayweather felt the power and wasn't concerned one bit - he winked at carl froch in round four and was smiling throughout the bout - he also walked him man down.... Something that he hasn't done for a dozen years (since Gatti)

He felt the power and realised he had nothing to worry about. McGregor pawed with his shots n looked like an amateur (which he was) it was all arm punches!
Tanzio
Light Heavyweight
Posts: 12264
Joined: 04 Feb 2012, 09:17

Re: Does McGregor Deserve Respect from Boxing Fans?

Post by Tanzio »

crusader wrote:Yes! Another 'he ain't getting enough respec!' rant from Tanzio

What was worse T, the lack of respect for McG after he beat Diaz, or the lack of respect here?
What are you talking about? I am talking about what actually happened in this fight. Whether or not anyone respects him is up to each individual.

FMJ did not at any point toy with McG. He respected him enough to stick to the strategy while altering tactics.

As stated earlier in the thread, I respect McG on certain levels. Therefore I think he desrves my respect on those levels. Also as stated earlier, I don't think that McG gives a rat's ass whether we respect him or not, as long as he can keep selling ppvs, seats, suits, whisky, etc.
SaadOffTheDeck
Heavyweight
Heavyweight
Posts: 19602
Joined: 04 Jun 2009, 07:38

Re: Does McGregor Deserve Respect from Boxing Fans?

Post by SaadOffTheDeck »

Absolutely, I'm shocked at all these fans on here treating his performance with the same denial as a picture of their wife with another man. He made for a satisfying fight and did much better than anyone who knows what they're watching expected. Seeing all the posters saying he looked like they figured cracks me up. I didn't read their pre-fight forecast that McGregor had a jab Floyd would have to work around, etc..
SaadOffTheDeck
Heavyweight
Heavyweight
Posts: 19602
Joined: 04 Jun 2009, 07:38

Re: Does McGregor Deserve Respect from Boxing Fans?

Post by SaadOffTheDeck »

Kilsby wrote:
Tanzio wrote:
Kilsby wrote:Respect?

Mayweather pawed with McGregor like a cat would with a dead mouse

He had zero respect for his famed punching power.
What a load of crap. FMJ had issues finding the range. He was cautious and respectful of McG's counters. There was no cat with a dead mouse scenario. FMJ let him tire and then took him apart. Giving up the first few rounds was part of that strategy.

Even when FMJ had McG exhausted and nearly out on his feet he was missing a lot of his power shots right up to the finish. McG was awkward and difficult to get inside on.

Boxing enthusiasts belittling McG's performance are pretty hypocritical. How many of us thought before the fight that McG would land a counter uppercut nearly on the button v FMJ? How many believed that McG would win a round?

McG exceeded the expectations of most of boxing's hardcore, if we are being honest.
Oh c'mon.... We all knew McGregor was going to go for Mayweather in the first couple of rounds.

So did Mayweather.

Good point, when he didn't it probably surprised Floyd. McGregor has a great fight IQ. He realized he wasn't just going to land a single bomb and going Pete McNeeley would get him drilled with counters. He gave it a great go against one of the best ever. Has to be the greatest pro debut in Boxing history. Now back to MMA.
crusader
Heavyweight
Heavyweight
Posts: 16875
Joined: 19 Jan 2009, 20:14

Re: Does McGregor Deserve Respect from Boxing Fans?

Post by crusader »

If anything, his technique was worse than I expected, and the stamina was just as bad as I expected, despite seeing plenty of anecdotes about how much more exhausting grappling and MMA are. There was also no indication of series power.

Good timing though, which he's shown in MMA.
USMCer
Welterweight
Posts: 106
Joined: 04 Dec 2015, 02:33

Re: Does McGregor Deserve Respect from Boxing Fans?

Post by USMCer »

Was this a low blow or legit body shot?

I thought it was good. :TU:

Image


Compare it to the Ward-Kovalev body shots/low blows?
Kilsby
Cruiserweight
Posts: 467
Joined: 09 Sep 2010, 08:52

Re: Does McGregor Deserve Respect from Boxing Fans?

Post by Kilsby »

crusader wrote:If anything, his technique was worse than I expected, and the stamina was just as bad as I expected, despite seeing plenty of anecdotes about how much more exhausting grappling and MMA are. There was also no indication of series power.

Good timing though, which he's shown in MMA.
His stamina was what surprised me most, it was awful!

I thought a 29 year old athlete could last 36 mins no problem - obviously not!

There was an element of truth in malignaggi's comment that he got tired and malignaggi told him this is the last place you want to get tired when they was sparring their 12 rounds
Ricky_
Middleweight
Posts: 8896
Joined: 16 Oct 2013, 08:03

Re: Does McGregor Deserve Respect from Boxing Fans?

Post by Ricky_ »

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:Absolutely, I'm shocked at all these fans on here treating his performance with the same denial as a picture of their wife with another man.


:lol: :lol:
Evander
Heavyweight
Heavyweight
Posts: 14049
Joined: 07 May 2005, 16:49

Re: Does McGregor Deserve Respect from Boxing Fans?

Post by Evander »

He's ok I suppose, I like him as a person but those boxing skills don't belong anywhere near Floyd Mayweather.
He wants to take some of those prehistoric boxing skills back to wherever he learned them :lol:
Seriously where did he pick that sh_t up from man, it was like a Laurel and Hardy slapstick sketch type of style :lol:
Sorry but it was, I think he slapped Floyd on the top of the head at one point and did you see some of the hooks [If you can call them that] ... it was cringe worthy.
SaadOffTheDeck
Heavyweight
Heavyweight
Posts: 19602
Joined: 04 Jun 2009, 07:38

Re: Does McGregor Deserve Respect from Boxing Fans?

Post by SaadOffTheDeck »

crusader wrote:If anything, his technique was worse than I expected, and the stamina was just as bad as I expected, despite seeing plenty of anecdotes about how much more exhausting grappling and MMA are. There was also no indication of series power.

Good timing though, which he's shown in MMA.
:roll:
Ricky_
Middleweight
Posts: 8896
Joined: 16 Oct 2013, 08:03

Re: Does McGregor Deserve Respect from Boxing Fans?

Post by Ricky_ »

Kilsby wrote:
crusader wrote:If anything, his technique was worse than I expected, and the stamina was just as bad as I expected, despite seeing plenty of anecdotes about how much more exhausting grappling and MMA are. There was also no indication of series power.

Good timing though, which he's shown in MMA.
His stamina was what surprised me most, it was awful!

I thought a 29 year old athlete could last 36 mins no problem - obviously not!

There was an element of truth in malignaggi's comment that he got tired and malignaggi told him this is the last place you want to get tired when they was sparring their 12 rounds
You think he tired because he didn't bother to train? Maybe something to do with having a muscular physique, draining to 154 & suffering an onslaught of bodyshots in the mid rounds?
Evander
Heavyweight
Heavyweight
Posts: 14049
Joined: 07 May 2005, 16:49

Re: Does McGregor Deserve Respect from Boxing Fans?

Post by Evander »

Connor is a cool fella I like him a lot, but he looked like he picked up his boxing skills on a farm :D
USMCer
Welterweight
Posts: 106
Joined: 04 Dec 2015, 02:33

Re: Does McGregor Deserve Respect from Boxing Fans?

Post by USMCer »

Kilsby wrote:
Tanzio wrote:What a load of crap. FMJ had issues finding the range. He was cautious and respectful of McG's counters. There was no cat with a dead mouse scenario. FMJ let him tire and then took him apart. Giving up the first few rounds was part of that strategy.

Even when FMJ had McG exhausted and nearly out on his feet he was missing a lot of his power shots right up to the finish. McG was awkward and difficult to get inside on.

Boxing enthusiasts belittling McG's performance are pretty hypocritical. How many of us thought before the fight that McG would land a counter uppercut nearly on the button v FMJ? How many believed that McG would win a round?

McG exceeded the expectations of most of boxing's hardcore, if we are being honest.
Oh c'mon.... We all knew McGregor was going to go for Mayweather in the first couple of rounds.
So did Mayweather.

Mayweather felt the power and wasn't concerned one bit - he winked at carl froch in round four and was smiling throughout the bout - he also walked him man down.... Something that he hasn't done for a dozen years (since Gatti)

He felt the power and realised he had nothing to worry about. McGregor pawed with his shots n looked like an amateur (which he was) it was all arm punches!
But truth be told, McGregor didn't "go for" Mayweather, not like expected.

McGregor was measured. He jabbed. He moved his feet. He landed one-two's. (He rabbit-punched, which was B.S.). He probed. He countered. He landed upppercuts. But he didn't "go for" Mayweather, he never went full bore.
Kilsby
Cruiserweight
Posts: 467
Joined: 09 Sep 2010, 08:52

Re: Does McGregor Deserve Respect from Boxing Fans?

Post by Kilsby »

Ricky_ wrote:
Kilsby wrote:
crusader wrote:If anything, his technique was worse than I expected, and the stamina was just as bad as I expected, despite seeing plenty of anecdotes about how much more exhausting grappling and MMA are. There was also no indication of series power.

Good timing though, which he's shown in MMA.
His stamina was what surprised me most, it was awful!

I thought a 29 year old athlete could last 36 mins no problem - obviously not!

There was an element of truth in malignaggi's comment that he got tired and malignaggi told him this is the last place you want to get tired when they was sparring their 12 rounds
You think he tired because he didn't bother to train? Maybe something to do with having a muscular physique, draining to 154 & suffering an onslaught of bodyshots in the mid rounds?
^^ he didn't realise he would be hit??
Kilsby
Cruiserweight
Posts: 467
Joined: 09 Sep 2010, 08:52

Re: Does McGregor Deserve Respect from Boxing Fans?

Post by Kilsby »

USMCer wrote:
Kilsby wrote:
Tanzio wrote:What a load of crap. FMJ had issues finding the range. He was cautious and respectful of McG's counters. There was no cat with a dead mouse scenario. FMJ let him tire and then took him apart. Giving up the first few rounds was part of that strategy.

Even when FMJ had McG exhausted and nearly out on his feet he was missing a lot of his power shots right up to the finish. McG was awkward and difficult to get inside on.

Boxing enthusiasts belittling McG's performance are pretty hypocritical. How many of us thought before the fight that McG would land a counter uppercut nearly on the button v FMJ? How many believed that McG would win a round?

McG exceeded the expectations of most of boxing's hardcore, if we are being honest.
Oh c'mon.... We all knew McGregor was going to go for Mayweather in the first couple of rounds.
So did Mayweather.

Mayweather felt the power and wasn't concerned one bit - he winked at carl froch in round four and was smiling throughout the bout - he also walked him man down.... Something that he hasn't done for a dozen years (since Gatti)

He felt the power and realised he had nothing to worry about. McGregor pawed with his shots n looked like an amateur (which he was) it was all arm punches!
But truth be told, McGregor didn't "go for" Mayweather, not like expected.

McGregor was measured. He jabbed. He moved his feet. He landed one-two's. (He rabbit-punched, which was B.S.). He probed. He countered. He landed upppercuts. But he didn't "go for" Mayweather, he never went full bore.
Why not??

This is the guy who he said he would walk through mayweather in one round.

With his little spindly arms and his little small head - what happened?

Because for me - reality kicked in once the bell went!
Ricky_
Middleweight
Posts: 8896
Joined: 16 Oct 2013, 08:03

Re: Does McGregor Deserve Respect from Boxing Fans?

Post by Ricky_ »

Kilsby wrote:
Ricky_ wrote:
Kilsby wrote:
His stamina was what surprised me most, it was awful!

I thought a 29 year old athlete could last 36 mins no problem - obviously not!

There was an element of truth in malignaggi's comment that he got tired and malignaggi told him this is the last place you want to get tired when they was sparring their 12 rounds
You think he tired because he didn't bother to train? Maybe something to do with having a muscular physique, draining to 154 & suffering an onslaught of bodyshots in the mid rounds?
^^ he didn't realise he would be hit??

Eh?
SaadOffTheDeck
Heavyweight
Heavyweight
Posts: 19602
Joined: 04 Jun 2009, 07:38

Re: Does McGregor Deserve Respect from Boxing Fans?

Post by SaadOffTheDeck »

Ricky_ wrote:
Kilsby wrote:
Ricky_ wrote:
You think he tired because he didn't bother to train? Maybe something to do with having a muscular physique, draining to 154 & suffering an onslaught of bodyshots in the mid rounds?
^^ he didn't realise he would be hit??

Eh?
Kilsby is retarded, don't mind him.
Kilsby
Cruiserweight
Posts: 467
Joined: 09 Sep 2010, 08:52

Re: Does McGregor Deserve Respect from Boxing Fans?

Post by Kilsby »

Ricky_ wrote:
Kilsby wrote:
Ricky_ wrote:
You think he tired because he didn't bother to train? Maybe something to do with having a muscular physique, draining to 154 & suffering an onslaught of bodyshots in the mid rounds?
^^ he didn't realise he would be hit??

Eh?
^^ seriously?

He fought at 145lb less than 12 months ago! Draining to 154lb - come on!

Wake up and smell the coffee
Kilsby
Cruiserweight
Posts: 467
Joined: 09 Sep 2010, 08:52

Re: Does McGregor Deserve Respect from Boxing Fans?

Post by Kilsby »

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:
Ricky_ wrote:
Kilsby wrote:
^^ he didn't realise he would be hit??

Eh?
Kilsby is retarded, don't mind him.
C'mon Saad.....offer a bit of reality to the conversation. I know you post quite a bit on here and are a bit controversial but c'mon - take the McGregor fan boy spectacles off
Kilsby
Cruiserweight
Posts: 467
Joined: 09 Sep 2010, 08:52

Re: Does McGregor Deserve Respect from Boxing Fans?

Post by Kilsby »

Evander wrote:Connor is a cool fella I like him a lot, but he looked like he picked up his boxing skills on a farm :D
Here here... :clap:
Post Reply