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I don't think it's unreasonable to say he struggled in the first Maidana fight, though I still think he deserved it by a few points.
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If I remember correctly, Lederman had it 116-112. If the knockdown was actually called correctly (Which I gave him credit for), it's 115-112. One round off from my 114-113. It was a close fight, way closer than the judges official cards. I think anyone being unbiased can make an easy case for giving Judah 4 out of the first 6 rounds, at least 3, and the 12th round. It was a close fight that Floyd clearly won.gilgamesh wrote:I thought Floyd won a hell of a lot more clearly than that. It was only competitive early on. From Round 5 onward it was the Floyd show, and he was beating him up to the point that it looked like he might stop him if it kept up like that. Then Zab hit him low and caused the whole near riot situation that lead to the long delay that broke up Floyd's momentum.armageto wrote:I had the fight very close, 114-113 for Floyd. I gave Judah 4 out of the first 6 rounds, the 12th, plus I credited him for the missed knockdown. The official scores were way off.Loki wrote:
Alright, one. Let's be honest, there was only going to be one winner.
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I never said he struggles with Southpaws. I put up Judah as an example of someone he struggled with (IMO) and somebody could use that for the Southpaw case.Chippo wrote:Floyd didn't struggle with Judah IMO. He let Judah start fast so that he would gas and that proved to be the correct game plan. Judah landed a couple of shots in the second round and little else of significance. Floyd completely dismantled him in the second half of the fight.armageto wrote:I had the fight very close, 114-113 for Floyd. I gave Judah 4 out of the first 6 rounds, the 12th, plus I credited him for the missed knockdown. The official scores were way off.Loki wrote:
Alright, one. Let's be honest, there was only going to be one winner.
And even if you think it was a close fight, it still doesn't demonstrate that Floyd struggles with southpaws. It would just be one example; that would be like saying Floyd struggled with Castillo therefore Floyd struggles with orthodox fighters. Floyd didn't struggle with Guerrero, McGregor (!), Pacquiao, Ortiz, Chop Chop. So even if you think the Judah fight was close (which I don't ), it doesn't mean that 'Floyd struggles with southpaws'.
For the record, the judges scored the Judah fight 119-111, 116-112, 117-111.
As for their fight, anybody scoring unbiased can easily give Judah 4 to 5 rounds. Plus there was a legit knockdown that could have made it a 10-8 round. So having an honest score card of 115-112 or 114-113 is pretty feasible, and to me, would demonstrate he did indeed struggle with Judah to an extent.
The official scores were a joke. Floyd usually has gotten positive cards in big fights that make fights appear wider than what they really are, barring that Canelo card. Judah (I had 114-113), Castillo I (Thought Floyd lost), Maidana I (Had it a draw), Cotto (I had 116-112), so aside that 116-112 card, the other two are off and WAY off in the Judah fight.
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From memory, you've got this right. I had the Oscar fight very close. Floyd did lose against Castillo, no doubt there.armageto wrote:I never said he struggles with Southpaws. I put up Judah as an example of someone he struggled with (IMO) and somebody could use that for the Southpaw case.Chippo wrote:Floyd didn't struggle with Judah IMO. He let Judah start fast so that he would gas and that proved to be the correct game plan. Judah landed a couple of shots in the second round and little else of significance. Floyd completely dismantled him in the second half of the fight.armageto wrote:
I had the fight very close, 114-113 for Floyd. I gave Judah 4 out of the first 6 rounds, the 12th, plus I credited him for the missed knockdown. The official scores were way off.
And even if you think it was a close fight, it still doesn't demonstrate that Floyd struggles with southpaws. It would just be one example; that would be like saying Floyd struggled with Castillo therefore Floyd struggles with orthodox fighters. Floyd didn't struggle with Guerrero, McGregor (!), Pacquiao, Ortiz, Chop Chop. So even if you think the Judah fight was close (which I don't ), it doesn't mean that 'Floyd struggles with southpaws'.
For the record, the judges scored the Judah fight 119-111, 116-112, 117-111.
As for their fight, anybody scoring unbiased can easily give Judah 4 to 5 rounds. Plus there was a legit knockdown that could have made it a 10-8 round. So having an honest score card of 115-112 or 114-113 is pretty feasible, and to me, would demonstrate he did indeed struggle with Judah to an extent.
The official scores were a joke. Floyd usually has gotten positive cards in big fights that make fights appear wider than what they really are, barring that Canelo card. Judah (I had 114-113), Castillo I (Thought Floyd lost), Maidana I (Had it a draw), Cotto (I had 116-112), so aside that 116-112 card, the other two are off and WAY off in the Judah fight.
I think it's conclusive, Floyd had no problem with southpaws. Interesting that he did struggle with swarmers; Maidana and Castillo, but he's only human and maybe had an off night. Beat them both conclusively in the rematches though.
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Bingo, I hate "at the end of the day" interviews by boxers.Badhusker wrote:For boxers getting interviewed, "at the end of the day" seems to be used over and over.
Or "it is what it is"
Every Floyd interview you have to hear "it's like i said before..." 20 times. Before when? when was this Floyd?
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"I'll fight anyone, I want to fight the best"
"So does that mean you're willing to fight ____?"
"Errr, talk to my team"
"So does that mean you're willing to fight ____?"
"Errr, talk to my team"
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With you on the swarmers, though most people do. I think anybody that would go balls to the wall would give Floyd fits.Loki wrote:From memory, you've got this right. I had the Oscar fight very close. Floyd did lose against Castillo, no doubt there.armageto wrote:I never said he struggles with Southpaws. I put up Judah as an example of someone he struggled with (IMO) and somebody could use that for the Southpaw case.Chippo wrote:
Floyd didn't struggle with Judah IMO. He let Judah start fast so that he would gas and that proved to be the correct game plan. Judah landed a couple of shots in the second round and little else of significance. Floyd completely dismantled him in the second half of the fight.
And even if you think it was a close fight, it still doesn't demonstrate that Floyd struggles with southpaws. It would just be one example; that would be like saying Floyd struggled with Castillo therefore Floyd struggles with orthodox fighters. Floyd didn't struggle with Guerrero, McGregor (!), Pacquiao, Ortiz, Chop Chop. So even if you think the Judah fight was close (which I don't ), it doesn't mean that 'Floyd struggles with southpaws'.
For the record, the judges scored the Judah fight 119-111, 116-112, 117-111.
As for their fight, anybody scoring unbiased can easily give Judah 4 to 5 rounds. Plus there was a legit knockdown that could have made it a 10-8 round. So having an honest score card of 115-112 or 114-113 is pretty feasible, and to me, would demonstrate he did indeed struggle with Judah to an extent.
The official scores were a joke. Floyd usually has gotten positive cards in big fights that make fights appear wider than what they really are, barring that Canelo card. Judah (I had 114-113), Castillo I (Thought Floyd lost), Maidana I (Had it a draw), Cotto (I had 116-112), so aside that 116-112 card, the other two are off and WAY off in the Judah fight.
I think it's conclusive, Floyd had no problem with southpaws. Interesting that he did struggle with swarmers; Maidana and Castillo, but he's only human and maybe had an off night. Beat them both conclusively in the rematches though.
On a side note, for a non-aggressive guy, I always though Forrest would give Floyd issues, IMO.
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While it was a clear victory, it was just as clear that FMJ struggled with Cotto.
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This is easy pickings for me.
"Boxer (insert name here) was lucky to get the decision."
And the fight was in Vegas
"Boxer (insert name here) was lucky to get the decision."
And the fight was in Vegas
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I swear that every single time that bad decision happens in boxing there is someone using that line 
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Jameel McCline saying that Adamek would struggle with Kevin McBride's HW speed is always a 'favourite' dumb dumb of mine, though it doesn't fit the bill of being widely repeated.
The supposed 'experts', especially former fighters, have probably said just as much stupid shitt as the forum goers have.
The supposed 'experts', especially former fighters, have probably said just as much stupid shitt as the forum goers have.
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The Fighters themselves often seem to be have the least informed opinion of any supposed "Expert" out there. McBride was as slow as it gets.crusader wrote:Jameel McCline saying that Adamek would struggle with Kevin McBride's HW speed is always a 'favourite' dumb dumb of mine
The supposed 'experts', especially former fighters, have probably said just as much stupid shitt as the forum goers have.
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"Manny is afraid of needles." 
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Have you ever conversed with Ross Thompson? He's a madman.gilgamesh wrote:The Fighters themselves often seem to be have the least informed opinion of any supposed "Expert" out there. McBride was as slow as it gets.crusader wrote:Jameel McCline saying that Adamek would struggle with Kevin McBride's HW speed is always a 'favourite' dumb dumb of mine
The supposed 'experts', especially former fighters, have probably said just as much stupid shitt as the forum goers have.
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Most repeated from boxers... "First of all..I want to thank my Lord and Savior Jesus Christ"
"At the end of the day I was a better boxer" ... "What about in the middle of the day???"
"A Champion is somebody who gets up when he can't."
Asked what he's plans were, now that he was Heavyweight Champion, Leon Spinks said "I want to take a trip somewhere... And I want to go on a boat"
Joe Frazier... "George clobbered me. George was too strong for me."
Mike Quarry sounding punchy after he fought Bob Foster... "I caaaaught one."
Oscar DLH after fighting Bernard Hopkins and getting knocked out... "The fight was much easier than I thought. 2 judges had me ahead." ... They didn't.
Jerry Quarry after he got up...then took a knee and was counted out vs George Chuvalo ... "The end of the fight was such a weird, freaky thing"
Joe Bugner... "Boxing is a sport I never liked, but learned to love."
Jimmy Young... "I learned that standing there and taking punches wasn't the answer."
Howard Cosell shouting during Holmes-Cooney so that Cooney could hear him. "Larry Holmes is TIRED... Larry Holmes is VERY TIRED." ... He wasn’t.
Teddy Atlas... “You add a few secret ingredients … and then you have a recipe.”
Jim Grey… “Do you think you won the fight? Or who do you think won the fight?”
Ken Norton… “I don’t remember the count. I guess I was unconscious.”
Paulie Malignaggi... “He can’t punch.”
Tommy Hearns after Leonard 1... “I hate the referee and I hate myself.”
"At the end of the day I was a better boxer" ... "What about in the middle of the day???"
"A Champion is somebody who gets up when he can't."
Asked what he's plans were, now that he was Heavyweight Champion, Leon Spinks said "I want to take a trip somewhere... And I want to go on a boat"
Joe Frazier... "George clobbered me. George was too strong for me."
Mike Quarry sounding punchy after he fought Bob Foster... "I caaaaught one."
Oscar DLH after fighting Bernard Hopkins and getting knocked out... "The fight was much easier than I thought. 2 judges had me ahead." ... They didn't.
Jerry Quarry after he got up...then took a knee and was counted out vs George Chuvalo ... "The end of the fight was such a weird, freaky thing"
Joe Bugner... "Boxing is a sport I never liked, but learned to love."
Jimmy Young... "I learned that standing there and taking punches wasn't the answer."
Howard Cosell shouting during Holmes-Cooney so that Cooney could hear him. "Larry Holmes is TIRED... Larry Holmes is VERY TIRED." ... He wasn’t.
Teddy Atlas... “You add a few secret ingredients … and then you have a recipe.”
Jim Grey… “Do you think you won the fight? Or who do you think won the fight?”
Ken Norton… “I don’t remember the count. I guess I was unconscious.”
Paulie Malignaggi... “He can’t punch.”
Tommy Hearns after Leonard 1... “I hate the referee and I hate myself.”
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"That wasn't me in there tonight" Then who was it? I saw you in there.
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"Calzaghe hit Lacy 1000 times in their fight"
"I couldn't get my punches off tonight" - you've been in training camp for 8 weeks, then on the night of the fight you forget how to throw punches!!
Not a repeated quote, but Tyson saying "I broke my back in the build up to this fight.......spinal"
"I couldn't get my punches off tonight" - you've been in training camp for 8 weeks, then on the night of the fight you forget how to throw punches!!
Not a repeated quote, but Tyson saying "I broke my back in the build up to this fight.......spinal"
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Yes, Tyson sure said that after the Etienne fight... "In training camp I broke my back." ... wow, you recovered quickly.