The Technical Decision Rule

[Ricky_]

Isn't it time this rule was binned? I always felt it was a rule that could be exploited and that happened in the worst way last night in the Margarito vs Jones fight


For anyone who didn't see it, Jones cut Margarito's right eye (the ruined one that's had multiple surgeries) but the ref deemed it a head-clash.

Margarito won rounds 2, 3 & 4 with the jab, and Jones had a point deduction in r4. But in r5 the 40-year old Margarito started to tire and was getting caught with haymakers regularly. He took a beating in rounds 6 & 7 and looked completely gassed and unlikely to last the distance.

At this point, rather conveniently for Margarito - the 'doctor' spared him from facing the last 3 rounds... even though the cut had not worsened since r2, he was ruled unable to continue.... 5 rounds later.

So at this point, you essentially have a guy quit on his stool and steal a 7 round decision knowing the writing was on the wall had he continued.

What a fornicating joke, the TD rule belongs in the bin.

[Enlightened-One]

Isn't it time this rule was binned? I always felt it was a rule that could be exploited and that happened in the worst way last night in the Margarito vs Jones fight


For anyone who didn't see it, Jones cut Margarito's right eye (the ruined one that's had multiple surgeries) but the ref deemed it a head-clash.

Margarito won rounds 2, 3 & 4 with the jab, and Jones had a point deduction in r4. But in r5 the 40-year old Margarito started to tire and was getting caught with haymakers regularly. He took a beating in rounds 6 & 7 and looked completely gassed and unlikely to last the distance.

At this point, rather conveniently for Margarito - the 'doctor' spared him from facing the last 3 rounds... even though the cut had not worsened since r2, he was ruled unable to continue.... 5 rounds later.

So at this point, you essentially have a guy quit on his stool and steal a 7 round decision knowing the writing was on the wall had he continued.

What a effing joke, the TD rule belongs in the bin.

I’m confused?

You've claimed the doctor stopped the bout, but then you accuse Margarito of “essentially… quit on his stool and steal the 7 round decision”.

Surely both situations are mutually exclusive?

Make your mind up, either the Doctor didn’t call a halt to the fight or he did?

For the record, I didn’t watch the fight.

[Ricky_]

I no speaky the espaniol but it seems obvious ehat happened after his 7th round beating...

Marg decides he's had enough & has nothing left in the tank.

Tells the corner doctor he can no longer see out the cut eye.

Doc tells the ref he shouldn't continue with the injury.



No way in hell would the fight have been waved if it had been Margarito on the verge of a ko.

[Enlightened-One]

I no speaky the espaniol but it seems obvious ehat happened after his 7th round beating...

Marg decides he's had enough & has nothing left in the tank.

Tells the corner doctor he can no longer see out the cut eye.

Doc tells the ref he shouldn't continue with the injury.



No way in hell would the fight have been waved if it had been Margarito on the verge of a ko.

So the doctor used a combination of his medical academic training, coupled with his practical general practitioner experience, to make a professionally educated decision when he chose to stop the bout?

Where's the controversy? Are you suggesting that the ringside doctor was corrupt?

Is that what this forum has progressed to? Whenever a decision is made that affects the outcome of a bout, that doesn't go the preffered direction of fight fans, then accusations of corruption become the go-to excuse?

[squiggy]

I no speaky the espaniol but it seems obvious ehat happened after his 7th round beating...

Marg decides he's had enough & has nothing left in the tank.

Tells the corner doctor he can no longer see out the cut eye.

Doc tells the ref he shouldn't continue with the injury.



No way in hell would the fight have been waved if it had been Margarito on the verge of a ko.

So the doctor used a combination of his medical academic training, coupled with his practical general practitioner experience, to make a professionally educated decision when he chose to stop the bout?

Where's the controversy? Are you suggesting that the ringside doctor was corrupt?

Is that what this forum has progressed to? Whenever a decision is made that affects the outcome of a bout, that doesn't go the preffered direction of fight fans, then accusations of corruption become the go-to excuse?

Did you watch the fight?

[Enlightened-One]

I no speaky the espaniol but it seems obvious ehat happened after his 7th round beating...

Marg decides he's had enough & has nothing left in the tank.

Tells the corner doctor he can no longer see out the cut eye.

Doc tells the ref he shouldn't continue with the injury.



No way in hell would the fight have been waved if it had been Margarito on the verge of a ko.

So the doctor used a combination of his medical academic training, coupled with his practical general practitioner experience, to make a professionally educated decision when he chose to stop the bout?

Where's the controversy? Are you suggesting that the ringside doctor was corrupt?

Is that what this forum has progressed to? Whenever a decision is made that affects the outcome of a bout, that doesn't go the preffered direction of fight fans, then accusations of corruption become the go-to excuse?

Did you watch the fight?

People have a right to question the judges scorecards, which many believed should not have gone Margarito's way.

That being said, it is visibly unclear (from a casual armchair TV viewer perspective) whether the ringside physician or Margarito chose to stop the bout.

We know for certain that Jimmy Lennon Junior announced that the fight had actually been stopped by the doctor due to the cut and that the fight would go to the score-cards.

There is no proof of cheating, stealing or corruption, but if you possess any, then kindly provide it.

[Ricky_]

I no speaky the espaniol but it seems obvious ehat happened after his 7th round beating...

Marg decides he's had enough & has nothing left in the tank.

Tells the corner doctor he can no longer see out the cut eye.

Doc tells the ref he shouldn't continue with the injury.



No way in hell would the fight have been waved if it had been Margarito on the verge of a ko.

So the doctor used a combination of his medical academic training, coupled with his practical general practitioner experience, to make a professionally educated decision when he chose to stop the bout?

Where's the controversy? Are you suggesting that the ringside doctor was corrupt?

Is that what this forum has progressed to? Whenever a decision is made that affects the outcome of a bout, that doesn't go the preffered direction of fight fans, then accusations of corruption become the go-to excuse?

Did you watch the fight?

Clearly he didn't.

[caldo2025]

Isn't it time this rule was binned? I always felt it was a rule that could be exploited and that happened in the worst way last night in the Margarito vs Jones fight


For anyone who didn't see it, Jones cut Margarito's right eye (the ruined one that's had multiple surgeries) but the ref deemed it a head-clash.

Margarito won rounds 2, 3 & 4 with the jab, and Jones had a point deduction in r4. But in r5 the 40-year old Margarito started to tire and was getting caught with haymakers regularly. He took a beating in rounds 6 & 7 and looked completely gassed and unlikely to last the distance.

At this point, rather conveniently for Margarito - the 'doctor' spared him from facing the last 3 rounds... even though the cut had not worsened since r2, he was ruled unable to continue.... 5 rounds later.

So at this point, you essentially have a guy quit on his stool and steal a 7 round decision knowing the writing was on the wall had he continued.

What a effing joke, the TD rule belongs in the bin.

I'm also tired of this rule and most fans should be as well. I did not see this fight but from the way it sounds, it's yet another fight that fans got the shiit end of the stick on. If Boxing had a braintrust of some kind, they would realize that there's an obvious problem that seems to be getting worse. I'm talking about Technical Decisions and DQ's. Since they rewarded Andre Dirrell with his acting job back in May (I didn't even think Jose's punch was late btw) and handed him another W for faking being hurt, it's become the new fad. Luckily, the most recent acting jobs were not rewarded. I can list out these idiots but I'd rather never see their names again. That fish that fought Gervonta Davis the other night was pathetic looking for a way out of a very entertaining fight for the fans. Guys like that should never get on TV again and waste fans time.

There has to be something in place to protect fighters from illegal punches or permanent injuries though. I don't have the answers but neither does boxing right now. I'd like to think there are smarter people than me already working on a remedy but I know that's probably not the case in this sport.