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Sorry for the re-post

I am nearly 19, i thinking of turning pro. i would be a super-feather, what guys should i face, try to build my career.

PS. i have had 25 Amateur fights winning 23 of them
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With respect you have a decent amateur record. Is there no one in your amateur gym that has connections within professional boxing? Im quite surprised that having a good amateur record hasnt brought people to be speaking to you.

Where in the uk are you based?

Can we see your amateur record?
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Boxed in any championships ? Won any Titles?
How many senior fights have u had?
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no senior fights i stop just before being 17. i from essex
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Get a manager
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Coco wrote:Get a manager
Yep.
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tim99b wrote:Sorry for the re-post

I am nearly 19, i thinking of turning pro. i would be a super-feather, what guys should i face, try to build my career.

PS. i have had 25 Amateur fights winning 23 of them
I would suggest - don't go bloody pro yet. If that really is your record and you're not a liar, you must be very talented.

So stay in the amateurs for 2-3 years and try and win something so you get scouted. Then you may get signed up by a promoter with great connections and a good name.

Trying to make it as a pro on the small hall scene is a nightmare - seen many club mates do it. The stress and time of selling tickets makes it an extra job. And a thankless one.

19 is young to go pro especially if you haven't boxed since you were 17
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boxingknockout wrote:
tim99b wrote:Sorry for the re-post

I am nearly 19, i thinking of turning pro. i would be a super-feather, what guys should i face, try to build my career.

PS. i have had 25 Amateur fights winning 23 of them
I would suggest - don't go bloody pro yet. If that really is your record and you're not a liar, you must be very talented.

So stay in the amateurs for 2-3 years and try and win something so you get scouted. Then you may get signed up by a promoter with great connections and a good name.

Trying to make it as a pro on the small hall scene is a nightmare - seen many club mates do it. The stress and time of selling tickets makes it an extra job. And a thankless one.

19 is young to go pro especially if you haven't boxed since you were 17

Spot on Exactly what he said :salut:
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boxingknockout wrote:
tim99b wrote:Sorry for the re-post

I am nearly 19, i thinking of turning pro. i would be a super-feather, what guys should i face, try to build my career.

PS. i have had 25 Amateur fights winning 23 of them
I would suggest - don't go bloody pro yet. If that really is your record and you're not a liar, you must be very talented.

So stay in the amateurs for 2-3 years and try and win something so you get scouted. Then you may get signed up by a promoter with great connections and a good name.

Trying to make it as a pro on the small hall scene is a nightmare - seen many club mates do it. The stress and time of selling tickets makes it an extra job. And a thankless one.

19 is young to go pro especially if you haven't boxed since you were 17
This x1000! This is the best advice you're going to get. You will not make any money turning pro now, it will be very hard and your focus will be on trying to earn as opposed to training and winning fights. Do it right; stay amateur a few more years and make the promoters come to you. Then you'll be earning right away!
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Sounds stupid, but, go into the semi pros.

Reach out to Jerry Gorman who runs the UBL, and he'll match you up in accordance to your ability (he makes you audition before competing). It'll be good experience and you'll get some coin in your pocket. Use the money to buy yourself 2-3 pro wins, then start asking people about who you should fight next.
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MTG was a successful amateur too!
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HomicideHenry wrote:Sounds stupid
Yep. Stupid.
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leejonesjnr wrote:
HomicideHenry wrote:Sounds stupid
Yep. Stupid.
Not really because semipro are a mixed bag of amateurs, ex pros, and "hard cases", etc. You can generate alot of attention that way. Probably my favorite semipro is James McCrory who was also the bareknuckle boxing champion for a time. You beat the right guys, you can easily get sponsers for a pro career.
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HomicideHenry wrote:
leejonesjnr wrote:
HomicideHenry wrote:Sounds stupid
Yep. Stupid.
Not really because semipro are a mixed bag of amateurs, ex pros, and "hard cases", etc. You can generate alot of attention that way. Probably my favorite semipro is James McCrory who was also the bareknuckle boxing champion for a time. You beat the right guys, you can easily get sponsers for a pro career.

Worst advice ever for a young boxer. Maybe if he was 35 and just out the jail! :shame:
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Tomasino wrote:
HomicideHenry wrote:
leejonesjnr wrote:
Yep. Stupid.
Not really because semipro are a mixed bag of amateurs, ex pros, and "hard cases", etc. You can generate alot of attention that way. Probably my favorite semipro is James McCrory who was also the bareknuckle boxing champion for a time. You beat the right guys, you can easily get sponsers for a pro career.

Worst advice ever for a young boxer. Maybe if he was 35 and just out the jail! :shame:
Hell, you guys in England have it sooooo good when it comes to Boxing. America doesn't have the semipro option at all. If I could do it all over again, that's the route I would have taken.

Besides I figured let the kid fight ten or so bouts, each about $500 or more win or lose, he'd have enough to buy himself a few pro victories. Smart investment I think, considering it would have no effect on his record.
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HomicideHenry wrote:
Tomasino wrote:
HomicideHenry wrote:
Not really because semipro are a mixed bag of amateurs, ex pros, and "hard cases", etc. You can generate alot of attention that way. Probably my favorite semipro is James McCrory who was also the bareknuckle boxing champion for a time. You beat the right guys, you can easily get sponsers for a pro career.

Worst advice ever for a young boxer. Maybe if he was 35 and just out the jail! :shame:
Hell, you guys in England have it sooooo good when it comes to Boxing. America doesn't have the semipro option at all. If I could do it all over again, that's the route I would have taken.

Besides I figured let the kid fight ten or so bouts, each about $500 or more win or lose, he'd have enough to buy himself a few pro victories. Smart investment I think, considering it would have no effect on his record.
Unlicensed boxing doesn't pay 'win or lose' its ticket deals. To make £500 he sells 100 tickets. If he's going to the hassle of shifting 100 tickets might as well do proper boxing and get paid better. 100 tickets is enough to be in the blue corner.
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leejonesjnr wrote:
HomicideHenry wrote:
Tomasino wrote:

Worst advice ever for a young boxer. Maybe if he was 35 and just out the jail! :shame:
Hell, you guys in England have it sooooo good when it comes to Boxing. America doesn't have the semipro option at all. If I could do it all over again, that's the route I would have taken.

Besides I figured let the kid fight ten or so bouts, each about $500 or more win or lose, he'd have enough to buy himself a few pro victories. Smart investment I think, considering it would have no effect on his record.
Unlicensed boxing doesn't pay 'win or lose' its ticket deals. To make £500 he sells 100 tickets. If he's going to the hassle of shifting 100 tickets might as well do proper boxing and get paid better. 100 tickets is enough to be in the blue corner.
Meh sounds no different than low level Boxing here in America then. If you can't sell tickets, then you pay your way into the card. You lose money but hell, you get yourself a win. It'll cost you about $1,200 but still. I imagine that kid, could sell at least 50 tickets. It's experience.
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HomicideHenry wrote:
Tomasino wrote:
HomicideHenry wrote:
Not really because semipro are a mixed bag of amateurs, ex pros, and "hard cases", etc. You can generate alot of attention that way. Probably my favorite semipro is James McCrory who was also the bareknuckle boxing champion for a time. You beat the right guys, you can easily get sponsers for a pro career.

Worst advice ever for a young boxer. Maybe if he was 35 and just out the jail! :shame:
Hell, you guys in England have it sooooo good when it comes to Boxing. America doesn't have the semipro option at all. If I could do it all over again, that's the route I would have taken.

Besides I figured let the kid fight ten or so bouts, each about $500 or more win or lose, he'd have enough to buy himself a few pro victories. Smart investment I think, considering it would have no effect on his record.

Here you go again. "If I had to do it all again" He's not you, he's had amateur fights so he knows what it's like to hit and be hit :roll:
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Tomasino wrote:
HomicideHenry wrote:
Tomasino wrote:

Worst advice ever for a young boxer. Maybe if he was 35 and just out the jail! :shame:
Hell, you guys in England have it sooooo good when it comes to Boxing. America doesn't have the semipro option at all. If I could do it all over again, that's the route I would have taken.

Besides I figured let the kid fight ten or so bouts, each about $500 or more win or lose, he'd have enough to buy himself a few pro victories. Smart investment I think, considering it would have no effect on his record.

Here you go again. "If I had to do it all again" He's not you, he's had amateur fights so he knows what it's like to hit and be hit :roll:
Tomasino, don't be a dick. It's never suited you. Honestly. Excuse me for being excited about someone wanting to box and talking shop. I get more of a kick out of these debuters and low level starters than I do anything else. I just wish I was his age again.
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HomicideHenry wrote:
Tomasino wrote:
HomicideHenry wrote:
Hell, you guys in England have it sooooo good when it comes to Boxing. America doesn't have the semipro option at all. If I could do it all over again, that's the route I would have taken.

Besides I figured let the kid fight ten or so bouts, each about $500 or more win or lose, he'd have enough to buy himself a few pro victories. Smart investment I think, considering it would have no effect on his record.

Here you go again. "If I had to do it all again" He's not you, he's had amateur fights so he knows what it's like to hit and be hit :roll:
Tomasino, don't be a dick. It's never suited you. Honestly. Excuse me for being excited about someone wanting to box and talking shop. I get more of a kick out of these debuters and low level starters than I do anything else. I just wish I was his age again.

How am I being a dick? You've just given a young fighter the worst advice possible, based on your own terribly ill advised "pro" fight.
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In my view, considering I had no amateur fights and there was no amateur program anywhere near me growing up... I would have loved to have been an Englishman where it seems every town has a boxing gym/club and that if you want to test the waters, you could try semipro before diving head long into the pros... It sounds like sage advice, considering what was done to me (being lied to about my opponent, losing the way I did, and being suspended six months as a result of a mismatch that should have never been sanctioned to begin with). What's wrong in telling the kid to do semipro, make some money, and invest it into himself?
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HomicideHenry wrote:In my view, considering I had no amateur fights and there was no amateur program anywhere near me growing up... I would have loved to have been an Englishman where it seems every town has a boxing gym/club and that if you want to test the waters, you could try semipro before diving head long into the pros... It sounds like sage advice, considering what was done to me (being lied to about my opponent, losing the way I did, and being suspended six months as a result of a mismatch that should have never been sanctioned to begin with). What's wrong in telling the kid to do semipro, make some money, and invest it into himself?

It's shite advice. We can agree to disagree.
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What did you win, mate? I'm being sceptical but with that record you must have at least won schoolboy regionals and been invited to training days, etc. It's very hard to match kids with records like that.
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