Does Canelo have faster hands than GGG ?

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Does Canelo have faster hands than GGG ?

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How does Canelo match up to GGG in terms of hand speed ?

Not positioning, power of punch, accuracy none of that.
Who's quicker to the mark ?
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Re: Does Canelo have faster hands than GGG ?

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Probably, but he does not have faster hands than Jacobs, or as good of movement / footwork, or one punch power, or stamina, imo.
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Yes, but not nearly as accurate. If GGG just jabs, canelo is fucked.
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He's not fighting Jacobs.
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Evander wrote:He's not fighting Jacobs.
Neither is 3G.
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Tanzio wrote:
Evander wrote:He's not fighting Jacobs.
Neither is 3G.
Would that make for a stand offish fight.
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Evander wrote:
Tanzio wrote:
Evander wrote:He's not fighting Jacobs.
Neither is 3G.
Would that make for a stand offish fight.
That would be disastrous for GingerHead.
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Canelo clearly has faster hands than GGG - but so do most of GGG's opponents.
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So Canelo has faster hands, and those explosive short twitch combos that tire you out. Now, does Golovkin have slower hands than Cotto...he does doesn't he, at this stage in his career? Cotto had trouble landing on Canelo for the first 4 rounds. I watched about half of it today. So.....either Canelo got a little tired and his slickness started to evaporate after 4, slickness meaning the head and body movement/defence or....he lost respect for Cottos punching power and slackened his defence. I remember seeing the fight and it looked like Cotto was going up against an unmovable force, his punches were have no effect. So...I think it was general slow down personally because Canelo never really geared up later. So I'm thinking, Golovkin will have trouble for the first 4 and then come on, but he can't loose composure. Even though hes older, I'm really thinking he should take it deep. Just my thoughts. This is a great fight.
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I figure it'll go late into the fight whether GGG or anybody likes it or not. Canelo is no pushover, and he won't be going down without a lot of punishment first. It'll take an accumulation of punishment to get the win here for either fighter.
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gilgamesh wrote:I figure it'll go late into the fight whether GGG or anybody likes it or not. Canelo is no pushover, and he won't be going down without a lot of punishment first. It'll take an accumulation of punishment to get the win here for either fighter.
True. I mean, I'm just hoping Golovkin doesn't blow his casket and get frustrated if the first few rounds don't go his way. I know hes a pressure fighter and I dont think Canelo will cope well with that still i'm hoping hes very controlled. It might end up just a battle of wills later, who can take it and dish it out the most, stamina/energy will play into that hugely. But who knows, Canelo is a very very competent fighter.
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If it goes down as a late battle of wills I don't care who wins. I fear a tactical battle of mutual respect and a dubious decision.
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SaadOffTheDeck wrote:If it goes down as a late battle of wills I don't care who wins. I fear a tactical battle of mutual respect and a dubious decision.
Ditto
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Of course I'm being optimistic. As that is definatley a scenario. But again, being optimistic and thinking stylistically, they will find each other in the ring. They both respect the sport enough not to low blow or grapple constantly. I'm hoping....fists will fly.
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I'm not implying it will suck. I'm just not expecting a brutal war.
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Ah ok, maybe "battle of wills" was too strong a word on my part. Maybe the better word would be, the "fight" takes place later, the boxing match former. Anyway I'm just speculating. But please at least give me some nice clean bombs landing at some stage haha. Preferably from Golovkin.
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No, I liked your comment. I'm hopeful it works out that way.
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lazboy wrote:So Canelo has faster hands, and those explosive short twitch combos that tire you out. Now, does Golovkin have slower hands than Cotto...he does doesn't he, at this stage in his career? Cotto had trouble landing on Canelo for the first 4 rounds. I watched about half of it today. So.....either Canelo got a little tired and his slickness started to evaporate after 4, slickness meaning the head and body movement/defence or....he lost respect for Cottos punching power and slackened his defence. I remember seeing the fight and it looked like Cotto was going up against an unmovable force, his punches were have no effect. So...I think it was general slow down personally because Canelo never really geared up later. So I'm thinking, Golovkin will have trouble for the first 4 and then come on, but he can't loose composure. Even though hes older, I'm really thinking he should take it deep. Just my thoughts. This is a great fight.
I typically dislike the use of a third party boxer when comparing two other boxers but I think you make a great point here with your Cotto reference. It really did feel like "Cotto was going up against an unmovable force" in his fight with Canelo. Now i'm not sure if there was something wrong with Cotto's hands in that fight or what the issue was but I felt he was throwing slaps all night long and had NOTHING on his right hand for power. I know his left is his Happy Meal but Cotto's right is not a shabby shot. If you watched Cotto last weekend, he was sitting down and throwing so much harder than he did against Canelo and with both hands. In both fights he was being walked down for most of it and pressured so it wasn't as though the oppositions tactics were much different but obviously, Cotto had to be weary of Canelo's power as that kid last weekend had nothing on his punches so maybe that had something to do with it. Maybe Cotto was throwing off his front foot with arm punches because Canelo's pressure? It is interesting.

Another surprise to me was that Cotto never appeared to be hurt or in trouble by any of Canelo's power shots either. That's what should make Canelo fans worried. If he can't hurt a much smaller opponent like Cotto then does GGG even need his hands up in this one? Can GGG do his "take 3 punches to give 1" strategy he had with Brook? hmm
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