John David Jackson: Sergey Kovalev Quit!

[Ossyrules]

Maybe kovalev is an arsehole I don't know

But this Jackson guy is a proven arsehole giving this interview. The guys got no class and just sounds like a gobshite

[Tarkus]

Kovalev should have sacked Jackson long time ago. He never liked him as a coach anyway. At least thats what he was saying. Maybe been an asshole, which is possible, he could not get anyone working for him. We know Abel would not touch him for one.

Now we learn that he had a man in his corner who hates him with passion. A man who wanted to switch sides and was hoping for a right amount of money to betray him. No wonder he lost. Jackson clearly was more busy figuring out Ward tactics to beat his own fighter then other way around. You dont beat p4p king with a rat in your team. This explains why Kovalev was not getting right advice during the first fight, as well as why he was fed I lie about been robbed. Instead of focusing on what to improve he decided to blame it on judges.

I'd like to see Kovalev with a next coach. Who knows maybe he improves if he can find someone loyal. The question is who will work with this headstrong, mean mother fukcer.

[candyslim]

Are you sure you don't mean "sacked" Tarkus ?

[Tarkus]

Are you sure you don't mean "sacked" Tarkus ?

Bloody English.

[candyslim]

No need to have edited it Tarkus. I’m sure we all knew you weren’t suggesting Kovalev could have solved the problem with fellatio.

[crow]

Maybe kovalev is an arsehole I don't know

But this Jackson guy is a proven arsehole giving this interview. The guys got no class and just sounds like a gobshite

Sergey bears a part of responsibility for not listening to advice from knowledgeable people, but this Jackson guy really sounds like a disgusting human being; ready to take the money and fame when Kovalev wins, then backstabbing and looking to switch corners when he loses.

If he had a lot of "things " going on with Sergey over the years, as he says, who forced him to stay ?

Abel Sanchez immediately walked away when he saw there was no listening. Why didn't Jackson ?

F..k this POS.

[Tarkus]

No need to have edited it Tarkus. I’m sure we all knew you weren’t suggesting Kovalev could have solved the problem with fellatio.

With types of weirdos that post here you never know.

[Enlightened-One]

I felt a bit sorry for the amount of heat that John David Jackson is receiving from the die-hard Krusher fan-base, so I wanted to articulate my belief about how badly trainers are generally treated in the extremely harsh world of professional boxing, but The Ring’s Doug Fischer has already explained the situation far better than I could ever do:

I think Jackson is admitting that professional boxing trainers are, for the most part, “hired guns.” The reality is that they have to go where the money is in order to make a living, and only a very small percentage get rich. The vast majority – even those who train world-class fighters – just get by.

Like the fighters, trainers do not have a pension (or medical insurance or anything like that) set up through the sport, so they have to take care of themselves or wind up broke and in bad shape when they are no longer able to train for a living.

Well, maybe Jackson saying on record that he’d split from a fighter that he’s loyal to for the right amount of money is some gamesmanship on his part and directed to Kovalev’s advisers and management. It’s his way of saying “Don’t take me for granted, and don’t get cheap on me.”

I know that’s kind of harsh, but boxing is a harsh business and the trainers need to be businessmen every bit as much as the fighters need to be. If they aren’t, trust me, they will get F__KED. Everybody gets screwed over in boxing at some point, but nobody gets taken advantage of and jerked around as much as trainers do (because there aren’t mandatory contracts between them and fighters as the fighters have with managers and promoters).

I’ve known Jackson since the late 1990s (when he was still fighting), I’ve witnessed his entire training career, and I can tell you that he had been royally f__ked over by fighters and their managers more than once after giving his heart and soul during training camp. He’s in his 50s now and you better believe that the business of boxing has hardened him in ways the ring never did. These days, he’s up front about getting paid what he deserves and what he’s owed. The late, great Eddie Futch and Emanuel Steward were no different.

You tell me that “The bond between trainer and fighter is supposed to be paramount…” Well, if that’s true, why do so many fighters leave their long-time trainers? That happens all the time. When a fighter loses for the first time or has a poor night, who gets the blame nine out of 10 times? What do members of the fighter’s entourage start whispering in his ear? What do fans loudly demand on social media? I think you know. Don’t act naïve.

Loyalty should be a two-way street shouldn’t it?

The above was written just before the Ward-Kovalev rematch.

I feel that Doug Fischer’s words are rather prophetic, don’t you?

[RScarf1]

I recently saw John David Jackson at a Panera Bread restaurant. We talked for a bit. That's all I have to say.

[Syntax Error]

The lack of training accusation I can well believe, because Kovalev had dreadful stamina in both fights, particularly the second one.

[apollo creed]

No matter how difficult there is a guy to work, you don't bash him and talk bad about him after you don't do business with him. When JDJ was with Kovalev , all things were cool and good but after Kova lost, he suddenly a 'scumbag'. If a guy is hard to work with, then say it to him from the beginning and not waste your time with him! Biatch move!

[Counter-puncher]

tremendous idea to make sure therer is another thread on the subject, hats off

[Enlightened-One]

Abel Sanchez had difficulties working with Sergey Kovalev and subsequently severed ties with him.

There are YouTube videos of Krusher blaming Joh David Jackson for the loss, despite his previous claims that the American trainer only works the mitts with him.

Even Don Turner has criticised Kovalev's attitude/mind-set.

And whilst all this is going on, the Russian is persistently publishing racist and bigoted material on social media.

I have no trouble with people appreciating Kovalev’s boxing ability, but don’t be naïve and blame everyone else for all the heat he’s received.

Some or possibly most of the blame has to be placed on Sergey’s shoulders for his actions. He cannot possibly be considered as a purely innocent and blameless party in all this.

Perhaps John David Jackson should have behaved more professionally by keeping schtum, but he was obviously písséd off about getting sacked and taking part of the blame for Kovalev’s last two defeats. He’s a human being and has every right to be angry!

[caldo2025]

First and foremost, F*CK JOHN DAVID JACKSON! What a classless piece of garbage this guy is.

When all of that BS came out from Ward's camp leading up to the rematch hinting that JDJ called Ward's camp looking for a job or switching teams, I felt it was just a weak attempt to infiltrate Kov's Camp and get in his head. But now I think that it had to be true or close to it. Not only that but JDJ gave interviews leading up to the rematch blaming Kovelev for this and for that...blaming the Russian speaking guy in the corner for the first fight and how his voice was muted the whole first fight. This is right before the rematch...who does that to their own fighter going into his biggest fight of his career? Oh I hate this guy and his stupid hair.

Would anyone in their right mind seek out JDJ now to be his trainer after seeing how he treats his fighters at the end? I don't care what happens between a boxer and a trainer, stuff like this should never come out. He hasn't even been officially dropped yet as a trainer and he gives up his secrets that easily and quickly. Now is there any doubt that JDJ spoke to someone in Ward's camp prior to rematch? I would bet any amount of money that JDJ did and he gave up secrets to watch his boy go down knowing it was the end of them. THIS GUY IS GARBAGE.

[caldo2025]

I felt a bit sorry for the amount of heat that John David Jackson is receiving from the die-hard Krusher fan-base, so I wanted to articulate my belief about how badly trainers are generally treated in the extremely harsh world of professional boxing, but The Ring’s Doug Fischer has already explained the situation far better than I could ever do:

[url=https://www.ringtv.com/501899-dougies-f ... ailbag-97/]I think Jackson is admitting that professional boxing trainers are, for the most part, “hired guns.” The reality is that they have to go where the money is in order to make a living, and only a very small percentage get rich. The vast majority – even those who train world-class fighters – just get by.

Like the fighters, trainers do not have a pension (or medical insurance or anything like that) set up through the sport, so they have to take care of themselves or wind up broke and in bad shape when they are no longer able to train for a living.

Well, maybe Jackson saying on record that he’d split from a fighter that he’s loyal to for the right amount of money is some gamesmanship on his part and directed to Kovalev’s advisers and management. It’s his way of saying “Don’t take me for granted, and don’t get cheap on me.”

I know that’s kind of harsh, but boxing is a harsh business and the trainers need to be businessmen every bit as much as the fighters need to be. If they aren’t, trust me, they will get F__KED. Everybody gets screwed over in boxing at some point, but nobody gets taken advantage of and jerked around as much as trainers do (because there aren’t mandatory contracts between them and fighters as the fighters have with managers and promoters).

I’ve known Jackson since the late 1990s (when he was still fighting), I’ve witnessed his entire training career, and I can tell you that he had been royally f__ked over by fighters and their managers more than once after giving his heart and soul during training camp. He’s in his 50s now and you better believe that the business of boxing has hardened him in ways the ring never did. These days, he’s up front about getting paid what he deserves and what he’s owed. The late, great Eddie Futch and Emanuel Steward were no different.

You tell me that “The bond between trainer and fighter is supposed to be paramount…” Well, if that’s true, why do so many fighters leave their long-time trainers? That happens all the time. When a fighter loses for the first time or has a poor night, who gets the blame nine out of 10 times? What do members of the fighter’s entourage start whispering in his ear? What do fans loudly demand on social media?

Utter Rubbish is what i think of this. My personal decision to ban myself from responding to you has been lifted for this one. Are you serious? Let's all get out the violins for the Trainers of the world...they are the real hero's in boxing. Do they risk their lives to make their living? NO. These gladiators do. These fighters risk their futures without any healthcare or retirement benefits. The percentage is variable but on average, Trainers garner 10% of their fighters take. Kovalev has made over $10m in the last 12 months... JDJ's take was probably around a million. A million dollars for two training camps and two nights...yeah let me cry for all of the trainers. Seems like a cushy freaking job to me.

JDJ is sour grapes and nothing more. He knows that he's being dropped by Kovalev and his gravy train is over while there's still a bunch of earning potential left in Kovalev's career. For JDJ to come out and say things like this about his top fighter is unforgivable. I hope other boxers see this idiot for what he is.

I'm sure most trainers are humping it out and making garbage and i've got 4 words for them ...Learn To Fuc*ing Type... find a new job. The boxers are taking the health risks and putting their lives on the line for our entertainment. I couldn't care less about the Trainers. F them...all of them.
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[apollo creed]

JDJ pretty much is butthurted and he is talking 2hit behind Kova's back. He should've just STFU and keep it low.

[caldo2025]

Kovalev should have sacked Jackson long time ago. He never liked him as a coach anyway. At least thats what he was saying. Maybe been an asshole, which is possible, he could not get anyone working for him. We know Abel would not touch him for one.

Now we learn that he had a man in his corner who hates him with passion. A man who wanted to switch sides and was hoping for a right amount of money to betray him. No wonder he lost. Jackson clearly was more busy figuring out Ward tactics to beat his own fighter then other way around. You dont beat p4p king with a rat in your team. This explains why Kovalev was not getting right advice during the first fight, as well as why he was fed I lie about been robbed. Instead of focusing on what to improve he decided to blame it on judges.

I'd like to see Kovalev with a next coach. Who knows maybe he improves if he can find someone loyal. The question is who will work with this headstrong, mean mother fukcer.

Perfectly said. Way better than i tried to say it.

[Bard of Boxrec]

We all saw him get robbed in the first fight, try and over compensate in the second fight, gas out in the 8th round of the second fight after winning about 5-7 of the rounds in the 2nd fight to go along with getting hit in the nuts 3 or 4 legit times and a bunch of border line times. Ward did fight better the second time but the deck was stacked against Kovalev the whole time,,thats obvious..

Hilarious how some people try and rewrite history by pretending two controversial victories make a right.

Krushedner failed to close the show in the first fight and simply quit in the second fight. SOGgy 2-0 v Krushedner.

OR

Kovalev won on 73 per cent of boxing experts' card the first fight and got low blowed straight to hell in the second.

Hell, Ward was supposed to be the boxer in there and there's not one round in either fight he won clearly, unless you allow his top level fouling.

[Tanzio]

Hilarious how some people try and rewrite history by pretending two controversial victories make a right.

Krushedner failed to close the show in the first fight and simply quit in the second fight. SOGgy 2-0 v Krushedner.

OR

Kovalev won on 73 per cent of boxing experts' card the first fight and got low blowed straight to hell in the second.

Hell, Ward was supposed to be the boxer in there and there's not one round in either fight he won clearly, unless you allow his top level fouling.

There is no "OR." The only cards that count leaned toward SOGgy in the first fight. Krushedner quit in the rematch.

Reality can be a bitch, or it can create an army of bitches.

[candyslim]

No need to have edited it Tarkus. I’m sure we all knew you weren’t suggesting Kovalev could have solved the problem with fellatio.

With types of weirdos that post here you never know.

You might have a point there

[IKSRTFO]

Hopefully this finally puts to rest all the Krusher was robbed BS.

So the first fight never happened where Kovalev clearly could've been the victor? Man, such a dumb comment. Also, those low blows never happened in the second fight?

If both were surely true, Kovalev wouldn't be so mentally destroyed after two fights. So many butthurt Kovalev fans and the guy won't even come back and show the heart of a champion. How many fights Hopkins and Marquez claim to be robbed in? you never seen those two crying about leaving boxing.

[IKSRTFO]

JDJ pretty much is butthurted and he is talking 2hit behind Kova's back. He should've just STFU and keep it low.

Obviously, Kovalev is even more butthurt. Guy is considering leaving boxing after two fights that didn't go his way. What if Hopkins and Marquez thought like Kovalev and his fans do?

[Ossyrules]

I felt a bit sorry for the amount of heat that John David Jackson is receiving from the die-hard Krusher fan-base, so I wanted to articulate my belief about how badly trainers are generally treated in the extremely harsh world of professional boxing, but The Ring’s Doug Fischer has already explained the situation far better than I could ever do:

I think Jackson is admitting that professional boxing trainers are, for the most part, “hired guns.” The reality is that they have to go where the money is in order to make a living, and only a very small percentage get rich. The vast majority – even those who train world-class fighters – just get by.

Like the fighters, trainers do not have a pension (or medical insurance or anything like that) set up through the sport, so they have to take care of themselves or wind up broke and in bad shape when they are no longer able to train for a living.

Well, maybe Jackson saying on record that he’d split from a fighter that he’s loyal to for the right amount of money is some gamesmanship on his part and directed to Kovalev’s advisers and management. It’s his way of saying “Don’t take me for granted, and don’t get cheap on me.”

I know that’s kind of harsh, but boxing is a harsh business and the trainers need to be businessmen every bit as much as the fighters need to be. If they aren’t, trust me, they will get F__KED. Everybody gets screwed over in boxing at some point, but nobody gets taken advantage of and jerked around as much as trainers do (because there aren’t mandatory contracts between them and fighters as the fighters have with managers and promoters).

I’ve known Jackson since the late 1990s (when he was still fighting), I’ve witnessed his entire training career, and I can tell you that he had been royally f__ked over by fighters and their managers more than once after giving his heart and soul during training camp. He’s in his 50s now and you better believe that the business of boxing has hardened him in ways the ring never did. These days, he’s up front about getting paid what he deserves and what he’s owed. The late, great Eddie Futch and Emanuel Steward were no different.

You tell me that “The bond between trainer and fighter is supposed to be paramount…” Well, if that’s true, why do so many fighters leave their long-time trainers? That happens all the time. When a fighter loses for the first time or has a poor night, who gets the blame nine out of 10 times? What do members of the fighter’s entourage start whispering in his ear? What do fans loudly demand on social media? I think you know. Don’t act naïve.

Loyalty should be a two-way street shouldn’t it?

The above was written just before the Ward-Kovalev rematch.

I feel that Doug Fischer’s words are rather prophetic, don’t you?

I know you're not keen on kovalev EO, but if this guy had an ounce of class he doesn't give these details in an interview. I'm no kovalev fanboy, but this interview from him is low and unprofessional. We shouldn't be surprised by his comments in camp for ward rematch

[apollo creed]

JDJ pretty much is butthurted and he is talking 2hit behind Kova's back. He should've just STFU and keep it low.

Obviously, Kovalev is even more butthurt. Guy is considering leaving boxing after two fights that didn't go his way. What if Hopkins and Marquez thought like Kovalev and his fans do?

As a trainer you should know how to approach this kind of situations and be on your fighter's side no matter if the roads split.

[ValMar]

I felt a bit sorry for the amount of heat that John David Jackson is receiving from the die-hard Krusher fan-base, so I wanted to articulate my belief about how badly trainers are generally treated in the extremely harsh world of professional boxing, but The Ring’s Doug Fischer has already explained the situation far better than I could ever do:

I think Jackson is admitting that professional boxing trainers are, for the most part, “hired guns.” The reality is that they have to go where the money is in order to make a living, and only a very small percentage get rich. The vast majority – even those who train world-class fighters – just get by.

Like the fighters, trainers do not have a pension (or medical insurance or anything like that) set up through the sport, so they have to take care of themselves or wind up broke and in bad shape when they are no longer able to train for a living.

Well, maybe Jackson saying on record that he’d split from a fighter that he’s loyal to for the right amount of money is some gamesmanship on his part and directed to Kovalev’s advisers and management. It’s his way of saying “Don’t take me for granted, and don’t get cheap on me.”

I know that’s kind of harsh, but boxing is a harsh business and the trainers need to be businessmen every bit as much as the fighters need to be. If they aren’t, trust me, they will get F__KED. Everybody gets screwed over in boxing at some point, but nobody gets taken advantage of and jerked around as much as trainers do (because there aren’t mandatory contracts between them and fighters as the fighters have with managers and promoters).

I’ve known Jackson since the late 1990s (when he was still fighting), I’ve witnessed his entire training career, and I can tell you that he had been royally f__ked over by fighters and their managers more than once after giving his heart and soul during training camp. He’s in his 50s now and you better believe that the business of boxing has hardened him in ways the ring never did. These days, he’s up front about getting paid what he deserves and what he’s owed. The late, great Eddie Futch and Emanuel Steward were no different.

You tell me that “The bond between trainer and fighter is supposed to be paramount…” Well, if that’s true, why do so many fighters leave their long-time trainers? That happens all the time. When a fighter loses for the first time or has a poor night, who gets the blame nine out of 10 times? What do members of the fighter’s entourage start whispering in his ear? What do fans loudly demand on social media? I think you know. Don’t act naïve.

Loyalty should be a two-way street shouldn’t it?

The above was written just before the Ward-Kovalev rematch.

I feel that Doug Fischer’s words are rather prophetic, don’t you?

I know you're not keen on kovalev EO, but if this guy had an ounce of class he doesn't give these details in an interview. I'm no kovalev fanboy, but this interview from him is low and unprofessional. We shouldn't be surprised by his comments in camp for ward rematch

Yes !