John David Jackson: Sergey Kovalev Quit!

[crusader]

Face it. Kovalev was just never the monster all his fanboys was making him out to be. Guy was just overrated. Funny people didn't believe GGG beat him up in sparring now it's easy to believe.

Don't be a hater.

Enjoy your boxing

Not a hater. Just stating facts. Kovalev was definitely overrated. And all y'all was hating on Ward and saying Kovalev would KO him.

I'm not sure if he was that overrated in general. Ward was the favourite for both fights and loads of people picked AW to school Kov in one attempt, when in reality the first meeting was ultra competitive and wouldn't have been a robbery if Kov got it.

Plenty of people also suggested that Hopkins would give him a boxing lesson, and, going back further, many were picking Clev to beat him. I think there has long been a common perception that, while very dangerous offensively, he's a bit slow and limited. Keep in mind that he does have some very solid wins, and his recent resume clearly put him among the LHW elite and earned him a deserved spot in P4P discussions.

Some people have gone over the top with him, but the lololol fan boi/so overrated stuff is pretty lame too.

[greg]

..he's an assh*le indeed ..but then again, when in Rome do as Romans do..

..I guess I could have been more specific and less politically correct mentioning Nevada and Co..but I guess the message was loud and clear anyway..

[lookingaround87]

Face it. Kovalev was just never the monster all his fanboys was making him out to be. Guy was just overrated. Funny people didn't believe GGG beat him up in sparring now it's easy to believe.

Oh shut up. Yes he was a monster. He almost killed Pascal in their two fights and Pascal is a top fighter. And he beat Ward in the first fight. The second fight was a joke and I strongly suspect Ward was juiced to the eyeballs because he knew he couldn't beat Kovalev without something extra. Ward had no power at 168 and didn't once hurt Kovalev in the first fight but then he's able to break him down with bodyshots in the rematch. Extremely suspicious.

If he was that much of a monster, he would've finished Ward after the knockdown. But he isn't that much of a monster. Ward smiled because he knew he could take the best of Kovalev.


And Ward being juiced over Kovalev, a Russian? Nothing suspicious about a power puncher being delicate to the body.

There's loads of big punchers who eventually have to go the distance. Ward's got a chin, that's all that means.

And you REALLY want to go down the route of accusing boxers of being cheats due to their nationality? RJJ, James Toney, Holyfield, Mosley, Tyson, Briggs, Tarver and god knows how many more American fighters, including the 'greatest of all time' have been caught. But you have the nerve to point the finger at other nationalities. Laughable.

[jockpunk]

Those two deserved each other.

[Tanzio]

He had no power at 168 and had no power in the first fight, but shows up as a monstrous puncher in the rematch. Yes, extremely suspicious.

You must have a hard time sleeping, with all these monsters crawling around in your head.

SOGgy landed one big shot to the jaw. Other than that he took advantage of Krushedner's soft body.

Did you even watch the fight?

He was hurting Kovalev to the body before the big shot to the head. Where'd that power come from? He certainly didn't have that power in the first fight and was hitting Kovalev to the body in the first fight too. But suddenly in the rematch he's got this power from nowhere. Interesting.

Your criticism should be for your monster Krushedner. He is just that weak to the body.

Besides, SOGgy did not KTFO Krushedner. He stopped him with body shots. Krushedner essentially quit. He could not take it. He folded. He would have run out of the arena if not for the ropes.

I wanted Krushedner to win the first fight but this bizarre SOGgy hate and whining from the Russian and his fanbuoys puts me, the guy who nicknamed Ward SOGgy, in the position of defending the Oakland boxer.

Your claims are baseless. Make something better up.

[Enlightened-One]

Lol@EO's thread backfire.

What are you talking about kid?

I intentionally create threads that have provocative subject matters, because it compels people to read them and contribute to the discussion.

This is probably the most popular non-MayMac thread created within the last ten days! It’s outdone any topics about the GGG-Canelo fight and it's not even 18 hours old! I couldn’t be happier.

If I only wanted people to agree with my opinion, I would have stopped frequenting this place a very long time ago!

Is it really that difficult for you to see that I enjoy the banter? FFS!

"I felt a bit sorry for the amount of heat that John David Jackson is receiving from the die-hard Krusher fan-base"

Your own words.

Are you a keyboard Tourette's Syndrome sufferer?

[Blodhemn]

Are you a keyboard Tourette's Syndrome sufferer?

Your intentions got exposed.

..he's an assh*le indeed ..but then again, when in Rome do as Romans do..

Right, no bigoted pricks in Russia. What a couple of dopes.

Can play that game all day. Russia has a ways to go to equal the bigotry of the young US of A.

[Tanzio]

Are you a keyboard Tourette's Syndrome sufferer?

Your intentions got exposed.

Right, no bigoted pricks in Russia. What a couple of dopes.

Can play that game all day. Russia has a ways to go to equal the bigotry of the young US of A.

Bullsh!t. But most of what you have to say on here qualifies as that.

So, go ahead. Let's go there.

[Ossyrules]

Krushedner is a classic bigoted bully who turns into a whining little bitch when punched to the body.

You're like ashjkl is to Haye

Wrong. The lot of you whining, crybaby apologists for Krushedner are to SOGgy as assdyp is to Haye.

Asjksl = tanzio just replace Haye and kovalev and you'll get the same posts

FTR I backed ward to win both fights! I just can't stand bitches like you

[lookingaround87]

Your criticism should be for your monster Krushedner. He is just that weak to the body.

Why when Ward hammered him to the body in the first fight did he have no trouble taking those shots?

Besides, SOGgy did not KTFO Krushedner. He stopped him with body shots.

He stopped him with a low blow, actually. But before that, and before the big shot he landed to Kovalev's head, he was hurting him to the body. So my question is, where did that power come from, because he certainly didn't have it at 168 or in the first fight.

Krushedner essentially quit. He could not take it. He folded.

The lowblow is what made the ref step in, but before that, he was clearly hurt to the body. The question is: where did Ward get that power from, seeing as he'd never shown it before, and if Kovalev has such a weak body, why was he able to take Ward's body shots in the first fight?

He would have run out of the arena if not for the ropes.

Your claims are baseless. Make something better up.

Oh, they're definitely not baseless. Where was Ward's power at 168 and in the first fight?

[Blodhemn]

Are you a keyboard Tourette's Syndrome sufferer?

Your intentions got exposed.

Right, no bigoted pricks in Russia. What a couple of dopes.

Can play that game all day. Russia has a ways to go to equal the bigotry of the young US of A.

Bullsh!t. But most of what you have to say on here qualifies as that.

So, go ahead. Let's go there.

You're losing it. This issue, along with Pac-Bradley is where you're in over your head in nonsense.

[BitPlayer]

Your criticism should be for your monster Krushedner. He is just that weak to the body.

Why when Ward hammered him to the body in the first fight did he have no trouble taking those shots?

He did have trouble taking the shots, it was a big reason he lost.

[BitPlayer]

From the first fight.
https://gfycat.com/NeedyRapidChimneyswift

[squiggy]

That is like a below-the-belt, below-the-belt, to-the-neck, below-the-belt, forearm-to-the-neck combo.

[Ilya Muromets]

Yeah pretty much. Tony Weeks definitely should've been issuing warnings or point deductions for some of those egregious low blows, but rather than looking to the referee and complaining Kovalev should've been low blowing Ward back. That's what I'd do in the ring. You hit me in the balls, and the ref don't say nothing to you...I'm gonna hit you twice in the balls, or headbutt you in the face or something.

Exactly. That's what i was disappointed in Kovalev about. He's a tough guy. Why was he trying to play nice and fair like the baby face when he was in there with the Weeks and Ward tag team heels, with turncoat Jackson back in his corner too? Some wrestling story line. He should have turned heel and KOd Weeks and his girlfriend with solid below the belt blows, and then KOd the Las Vegas wise guys all dressed up in their fancy italian cut judge suits. That would have been the proper story line. And then you could have had Boxingmania 3 with Jackson in the Ward corner along with Weeks, where they belong

I hope if Bob Arum steals your idea you get a cut of the action.That would be funny as hell Weeks and Jackson in Wards corner..With maybe Kathy Duva and take your pick in Kovalev's corner..

Ha ha there ya go! They should hire me to write the story lines for these boxing and wrestling "Sports entertainment" shows, like the latest Kovalev vs Ward thing with the fake ref and fake judges in the fake city. The first fiight on my sports entertainment schedule would be a rematch between Charley Zelinoff and Wilder. Charley says he won the first one.

[boxing_rocks]

True.

I have not read any of his diatribe(s). Do not need a trainer or anyone else to tell me what I witnessed in the rematch; Krushedner quit.

Yeah pretty much. Tony Weeks definitely should've been issuing warnings or point deductions for some of those egregious low blows, but rather than looking to the referee and complaining Kovalev should've been low blowing Ward back. That's what I'd do in the ring. You hit me in the balls, and the ref don't say nothing to you...I'm gonna hit you twice in the balls, or headbutt you in the face or something.

Exactly. That's what i was disappointed in Kovalev about. He's a tough guy. Why was he trying to play nice and fair like the baby face when he was in there with the Weeks and Ward tag team heels, with turncoat Jackson back in his corner too? Some wrestling story line. He should have turned heel and KOd Weeks and his girlfriend with solid below the belt blows, and then KOd the Las Vegas wise guys all dressed up in their fancy italian cut judge suits. That would have been the proper story line. And then you could have had Boxingmania 3 with Jackson in the Ward corner along with Weeks, where they belong

Punching in the balls is not a part of Kovalev's skill set. Neither does he have a good inside game in general. He also has other drawbacks in the ring. His power along with great skills on the outside brought him success, but he has never been a top 5 p4p fighter.

[Ilya Muromets]

Punching in the balls is not a part of Kovalev's skill set. Neither does he have a good inside game in general. He also has other drawbacks in the ring. His power along with great skills on the outside brought him success, but he has never been a top 5 p4p fighter.

A skill set I'd brush up on if I was scheduled to fight in Las Vegas. So Kovalev's star has fallen and Ward is getting touted on here as the greatest thing since sliced bread, but Kovalev was good enough to knock him down and beat him in fight #1, Las Vegas mob judges notwithstanding. I'd really like to see a third fight between them but this time in Russia.

[Best Coast]

Are you a keyboard Tourette's Syndrome sufferer?

Your intentions got exposed.

Right, no bigoted pricks in Russia. What a couple of dopes.

Can play that game all day. Russia has a ways to go to equal the bigotry of the young US of A.

Absolute nonsense! Talk to African students brought to Russia to attend college. They are often mocked and taunted on the streets with monkey noises, etc. That kind of crap hasnt happened in the US for many decades.

Numerous other European countries taunt black African/Caribbean soccer players by throwing bananas at them on the field during games and making monkey sounds. Just this year in the US when black baseball player Adam Jones was taunted with racial slurs by someone in the crowd it made NATIONAL HEADLINES, the guy who did it was banned from games and the Boston Red Sox publicly apologized to Jones. When stuff like that happens in Europe it's business as usual and hardly ever even makes the news.

Just this summer a black American tourist in Greece beaten to death by a Serbian mob for daring to take a selfie with a Serbian waitress. The last time that kind of insanity happened in the US was 70+ years ago in the Deep South:
http://nationalpost.com/news/world/amer ... fie-police

A confrontation began after Henderson, who was vacationing with friends, tried to take a picture with a waitress, and quickly escalated into a fistfight involving other customers and two bar employees, Greek police spokesman Theodore Chronopoulos told The Washington Post. Video surveillance shows that the 22-year-old recent graduate of the University of Arizona was fatally beaten in a span of just 30 seconds

“They kicked and punched him to his body and his head,” Chronopoulos said. “His death came from hits in his head.”

Nine men have been arrested and charged with intentional homicide.

[lookingaround87]

Your criticism should be for your monster Krushedner. He is just that weak to the body.

Why when Ward hammered him to the body in the first fight did he have no trouble taking those shots?

He did have trouble taking the shots, it was a big reason he lost.

At no point was he hurt to the body in the first fight.

[Counter-puncher]

Numerous other European countries taunt black African/Caribbean soccer players by throwing bananas at them on the field during games and making monkey sounds. Just this year in the US when black baseball player Adam Jones was taunted with racial slurs by someone in the crowd it made NATIONAL HEADLINES, the guy who did it was banned from games and the Boston Red Sox publicly apologized to Jones. When stuff like that happens in Europe it's business as usual and hardly ever even makes the news.
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[/quote]

not true for England, wouldn't be true for several other countries in NW Europe either

[ValMar]

Kovalev is an egomaniac, evidently....
Jackson is an azz-hole, obviously....

[Tanzio]

Your intentions got exposed.


Can play that game all day. Russia has a ways to go to equal the bigotry of the young US of A.

Bullsh!t. But most of what you have to say on here qualifies as that.

So, go ahead. Let's go there.

You're losing it. This issue, along with Pac-Bradley is where you're in over your head in nonsense.

You lost it before it started. Russia is a neo-feudalist empire ruled by the ultimate bigot and his FSB oligarchs, rendering all other opinion worthless and the people essentially 21st Century serfs.

Disagree with the ruling bigot(s) and you face the consequences socially, economically and mortally.

And, Ramming Speed won the first fight because Pac was more interested in the NBA playoffs.

[greg]

..what a load of usual crap

[Tanzio]

Your criticism should be for your monster Krushedner. He is just that weak to the body.

Why when Ward hammered him to the body in the first fight did he have no trouble taking those shots?

Besides, SOGgy did not KTFO Krushedner. He stopped him with body shots.

He stopped him with a low blow, actually. But before that, and before the big shot he landed to Kovalev's head, he was hurting him to the body. So my question is, where did that power come from, because he certainly didn't have it at 168 or in the first fight.

Krushedner essentially quit. He could not take it. He folded.

The lowblow is what made the ref step in, but before that, he was clearly hurt to the body. The question is: where did Ward get that power from, seeing as he'd never shown it before, and if Kovalev has such a weak body, why was he able to take Ward's body shots in the first fight?

He would have run out of the arena if not for the ropes.

Your claims are baseless. Make something better up.

Oh, they're definitely not baseless. Where was Ward's power at 168 and in the first fight?

Krushedner lost the first fight due to being worn out by SOGgy's infighting, including body shots.

You have zero proof of your allegations. Try a different tactic.

Better yet, crawl back in your little hole and continue whimpering to yourself. The whole lot of you whining, crybaby Krushedner thongs are pathetic.

[boxing_rocks]

Bullsh!t. But most of what you have to say on here qualifies as that.

So, go ahead. Let's go there.

You're losing it. This issue, along with Pac-Bradley is where you're in over your head in nonsense.

You lost it before it started. Russia is a neo-feudalist empire ruled by the ultimate bigot and his FSB oligarchs, rendering all other opinion worthless and the people essentially 21st Century serfs.

Disagree with the ruling bigot(s) and you face the consequences socially, economically and mortally.

That may be close to truth, but pro boxing in Russia is still more honest business than in the U.S., U.K., Germany or Mexico.