Name the next bum that Wilder 'the bum beater' will fight next ?

[asdfjkl]

I can't imagine anything in that fight telling g you anything you already don't know. If Dominic had any semblance of speed he'd be top 5 for sure. Really slow and plodding. Though it doesn't surprise me coming from you.

And what rank do you think Stiverne should be? Because I think he would struggle or lose against almost all top 100 guys.

[SaadOffTheDeck]

I can't imagine anything in that fight telling g you anything you already don't know. If Dominic had any semblance of speed he'd be top 5 for sure. Really slow and plodding. Though it doesn't surprise me coming from you.

And what rank do you think Stiverne should be? Because I think he would struggle or lose against almost all top 100 guys.

I don't rank heavyweights far enough to get to stiverne. What in the world does that have to do with anything?

[asdfjkl]

I can't imagine anything in that fight telling g you anything you already don't know. If Dominic had any semblance of speed he'd be top 5 for sure. Really slow and plodding. Though it doesn't surprise me coming from you.

And what rank do you think Stiverne should be? Because I think he would struggle or lose against almost all top 100 guys.

I don't rank heavyweights far enough to get to stiverne. What in the world does that have to do with anything?

Well, you say Breazeale might lose against Stiverne and also say he would be a rank 5 if he wasn't slow.

[SaadOffTheDeck]

I never said anything about who would win a fight between those two.

[Lackeos]

I can't imagine anything in that fight telling g you anything you already don't know. If Dominic had any semblance of speed he'd be top 5 for sure. Really slow and plodding. Though it doesn't surprise me coming from you.

And what rank do you think Stiverne should be? Because I think he would struggle or lose against almost all top 100 guys.

That's ridiculous. There's a reason that Stiverne is the actual only boxer to go the distance against Wilder. He is the most skilled and toughest boxer that Wilder has ever fought. He also stopped Arreola faster than Wilder and Vitali did. You should watch Stiverne's fights with Wilder and Arreola, and stop obsessing so much about his fight with Austin. He is tough as hell, has plenty of power, and very quick hands (not quick feet, though). His movement is also rather economical. Stiverne should still be regarded as a top 15 heavyweight.

Also, just gonna leave this out here as an exhibition of his power.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NnZhjcEp7BU&t=1m24s

[asdfjkl]

I can't imagine anything in that fight telling g you anything you already don't know. If Dominic had any semblance of speed he'd be top 5 for sure. Really slow and plodding. Though it doesn't surprise me coming from you.

And what rank do you think Stiverne should be? Because I think he would struggle or lose against almost all top 100 guys.

That's ridiculous. There's a reason that Stiverne is the actual only boxer to go the distance against Wilder. He is the most skilled and toughest boxer that Wilder has ever fought. He also stopped Arreola faster than Wilder and Vitali did. You should watch Stiverne's fights with Wilder and Arreola, and stop obsessing so much about his fight with Austin. He is tough as hell, has plenty of power, and very quick hands (not quick feet, though). His movement is also rather economical. Stiverne should still be regarded as a top 15 heavyweight.

Also, just gonna leave this out here as an exhibition of his power.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NnZhjcEp7BU&t=1m24s

Really? You want me to take a look at Kertson Manswell?

[Ossyrules]

Like I said, and apparently you don't understand....is that Joshua has BOTH been threatened by the IBF and WBA to be stripped. Joshua has TWO mandatories, but they are only considering the IBF. IBF's belt does not trump any other belt. It comes down to who he choses to fight. WBA has also mandated that Joshua fight Ortiz next, which is holding up Ortiz signing to fight Wilder.

You are such a effing blind idiot when it comes to Wilder. You keep trying at "hitting them out" as I pitch what you say is Wilder bias. When you come up with something logical, I will acknowledge it. It isn't a joke that Wilder wants to fight Joshua or Ortiz, but to guys that hate Wilder like yourself, it is. People like you do not want Wilder to get a chance against Joshua or Ortiz, or you will have to backtrack and say you are wrong.

Take a step back and look at things from a neutral standpoint, and forget the hate. Come back with a logical argument, or do not respond. I'm tired of your stupid effing bs, that is based on nothing other than Wilder hate. Ortiz and Joshua may KO Wilder. I just want to see it. You do not.

You're hilarious mate with that last post

Hearn has that it was always the IBF mandatory if not the Wlad fight

I can't wait for wilder or Ortiz to fight Joshua. In the mean time Joshua is fighting one of the other better heavyweight contenders

You quoting being neutral is amazing. Take your own advice. Every post you make has a positive wilder spin and a slant against Joshua.

Understand the themes of their careers so far and you'll get a picture for each of they ambitions. Until then keep crawling up Wilders arse.

I didn't think you would come back with an intelligent response. You are truly a dumb fuckk.

Do you follow boxing? Understand this, if Wlad didn't take the rematch, Hearn said it was pulev for the IBF.

You can defend wilder all you like, but if you're talking shite expect to be called out.

This will be the second opponent in a row better than all Wilders 38/39 however many he's fought

He's coming off the back of beating the best man for the last ten years

He's got 2 pieces of the championship out of 4

He's fought 19 or 20 fights. Roughly half of wilder.

I know there are circumstances like injured bicep, the povetkin situation etc, but you cannot criticise Joshua for the same points people criticise wilder and expect to be taken seriously. Joshua is defiantly not the guy sitting on his arse.

The only thing you've said that makes any sense is you want to see them fight

[Lackeos]

Really? You want me to take a look at Kertson Manswell?

You looking at Kertson Manswell is not nearly as outrageous as you thinking Stiverne is not a top 100 heavyweight, so I mean...

[Badhusker]

You're hilarious mate with that last post

Hearn has that it was always the IBF mandatory if not the Wlad fight

I can't wait for wilder or Ortiz to fight Joshua. In the mean time Joshua is fighting one of the other better heavyweight contenders

You quoting being neutral is amazing. Take your own advice. Every post you make has a positive wilder spin and a slant against Joshua.

Understand the themes of their careers so far and you'll get a picture for each of they ambitions. Until then keep crawling up Wilders arse.

I didn't think you would come back with an intelligent response. You are truly a dumb fuckk.

Do you follow boxing? Understand this, if Wlad didn't take the rematch, Hearn said it was pulev for the IBF.

You can defend wilder all you like, but if you're talking shite expect to be called out.

This will be the second opponent in a row better than all Wilders 38/39 however many he's fought

He's coming off the back of beating the best man for the last ten years

He's got 2 pieces of the championship out of 4

He's fought 19 or 20 fights. Roughly half of wilder.

I know there are circumstances like injured bicep, the povetkin situation etc, but you cannot criticise Joshua for the same points people criticise wilder and expect to be taken seriously. Joshua is defiantly not the guy sitting on his arse.

The only thing you've said that makes any sense is you want to see them fight

[Chambers2]

Dereck Chisora would smoke Wilders boots

[SaadOffTheDeck]

Dereck Chisora would smoke Wilders boots

He'd certainly get a nice view of them.

[stellar]

Who next?

[crusader]

Dereck Chisora would smoke Wilders boots

Chisora, for all his reputation as a 'good effort but no cigar guy', would probably be at least DW's second best opponent.

[candyslim]

Dereck Chisora would smoke Wilders boots

He'd certainly get a nice view of them.

Bermane Stiverne has said that he's going to take the step-aside money and that he's going to fight Breazeale, Do we know yet whether the agreement has been ratified, has the money been paid, has it been promised, has Haymon confirmed the offer is concrete, did it ever get beyond an agreement in principle? I ask because I genuinely have no idea.

If we assume this is a binding contract then props to Wilder because it proves he's not hiding behind a commitment to fight his mandatory. The problem is if Ortiz decides to wait in line for his more lucrative mandatory challenge against Joshua (and I wouldn't blame him) then there's a danger that Deontay is left holding his dick.

If Ortiz is out of the picture, Stiverne's paid off and fighting Breazeale. Miller and Whyte might by then have signed to fight each other, Joshua and Pulev are fighting in Cardiff, where would that leave him? It would be ironic and much else besides if Stiverne has been paid off to clear the way for Wilder v Duhaupas II wouldn't it?

Hopefully it doesn't come to that.

[SaadOffTheDeck]

It should be announced soon, now you can track down that pesky Sasquatch.

[Ossyrules]

Dereck Chisora would smoke Wilders boots

Chisora, for all his reputation as a 'good effort but no cigar guy', would probably be at least DW's second best opponent.

A realistic argument could be made that Del Boy could beat wilder

[SaadOffTheDeck]

Just about anybody if note could beat wilder, doing it is more problematic. Delboy doesn't have the biggest punch.

[candyslim]

It should be announced soon, now you can track down that pesky Sasquatch.

Naaah, I only like full size oranges

I think Chisora puts up a brave and spirited performance against Wilder and ends up on the wrong end of a wide points decision. Deontay reminds everyone that despite sometimes looking like a new-born giraffe on roller-blades, he can be quite effective boxing off the back-foot.

[apollo creed]

Let's face it, Wilder is salivating at the easiest bum-optional defense mandatory. He ain't gonna risk his strap and therefore a possible big money fight with AJ. Charles Martin may be a one tasty bum for Wilder.

[Ossyrules]

Just about anybody if note could beat wilder, doing it is more problematic. Delboy doesn't have the biggest punch.

Del Boy would be underdog for sure, but he's as strong as an ox. If he could muscle his way in and batter the body he could win

If wilder boxed smart he should win though like against strivene. As standard if he landed his right hand clean enough then it spells trouble for Del Boy. He's durable though

[candyslim]

I think Delboy has a lot of the same qualities that Stiverne brought into the fight against Wilder except without the boxing skills. I like Dereck very much but I can't see what gives him any better chance than Stiverne in 2015. Wilder has probably improved since then.

Can you imagine the reaction if Wilder signs up to fight Martin?

[KiwiRider]

Can you imagine the reaction if Wilder signs up to fight Martin?

Oh please don't even suggest it
I don't think he will though. It lends no perceived credibility fighting a guy AJ absolutely wasted, especially if he can't get Charlie out of there in the same fashion.
If it isn't Ortiz, it has to be another Washington; ie a guy with a good on paper record, soft puncher and no one has heard of..

[apollo creed]

Can you imagine the reaction if Wilder signs up to fight Martin?

Oh please don't even suggest it
I don't think he will though. It lends no perceived credibility fighting a guy AJ absolutely wasted, especially if he can't get Charlie out of there in the same fashion.
If it isn't Ortiz, it has to be another Washington; ie a guy with a good on paper record, soft puncher and no one has heard of..

Charles 'I walk this earth like a God' Martin: former world champion, dangerous southpaw, knocked out his last two opponents ! He's the right bum for Wilder ! Wilder would try to KO him in 1st round and then brag he did a better job that AJ

[KiwiRider]

Apollo
Nice one.
I felt genuinely sorry for Martians last opponent. Poor wee blobby.
Even in the post fight interview Martian looked embarrassed

[stellar]

Wilder still nothing?