If GGG gets clearly robbed, would Canelo give him a rematch ?

[lefty]

Canelo should target the body, rather than trying to take GGG out with a head shot.

[caldo2025]

The topic of this thread is kind of comical, since multiple forum posters are repeating the same unsubstantiated “corrupt judges’ scorecard” accusation over and over again in an effort to wear everybody else down, desperately hoping that raw repetition alone will eventually displace the truth.

One of the objectives of this dishonest debating tactic is to instil an attitude in the mind of others that convinces them if Gennady Golovkin somehow loses a highly-competitive fight by decision, then they will strangely feel compelled to aggressively proclaim that the Kazakh has been “robbed” regardless as to whether most scorecards from those possessing an objective mind-set will deem the winner by perhaps only a one or two point margin either way.

It’s very similar to a kind of self-fulfilling prophecy, where the individual allows their personal bias to justify their belief that their expectation has been realised, when in fact it hasn’t, because their prejudiced or loyalty will blind them, preventing these people from recognising the events that occur in reality.

It feels as though the hard-core die-hard GGG fan base are desperately trying to cover all of their bases, by seeking excuses that cover all possible scenarios whereby Golovkin may possibly taste defeat to Canelo.

They do this in advance of the event itself so that they can aggressively proclaim that they “told you so” and that they “knew all along” that there was “no way” their man “was ever going to get a fair shake”.

I’m a Golovkin fan, but I appreciate Canelo also, but whilst I sincerely expect the Kazakh to emerge victorious against the Mexican, it is entirely possible that he could lose fair-and-square.

Not true. You've been on your soapbox for months with this ridiculous version of the story. Facts are facts. There are stories about this written by legitimate Boxing minds that get paid for their opinions not just guys like me who have nothing better to do in the morning so i just on here and voice it. No, it's not racism...it's not patriotism...it's not any kind of ISM you want to proclaim. It's about money...it's about organized crime and it's about the betting windows in Vegas.

With Floyd gone, Vegas has been prepping Canelo to take his place for years now. Do you realize how much money Floyd meant to Las Vegas in his career? This is what you have never understood. The Las Vegas Visitors and Convention Authority reports that a Floyd fight in Vegas has an estimated economic impact of 150 million dollars to the strip. The local non gaming economic impact is $15 million. THIS has nothing to do with skin color or homelands...Vegas would back anyone that brings them the kind of money Floyd did and Canelo is the guy to do it. He's been putting seats in the chairs for years now and proving he can carry the torch.

THIS is why GGG is going to have a very difficult time winning rounds. One of Canelo's punches equal 4 of his on the cards. Vegas stands to lose a ton of money if Canelo loses this fight. I'm talking about yearling reoccurring revenues that bolsters the whole area. This is why GGG needs the KO. Not because any of the ridiculous reason you've been proclaiming over and over again no matter how ridiculous people tell you your statements are.

[apollo creed]

The topic of this thread is kind of comical, since multiple forum posters are repeating the same unsubstantiated “corrupt judges’ scorecard” accusation over and over again in an effort to wear everybody else down, desperately hoping that raw repetition alone will eventually displace the truth.

One of the objectives of this dishonest debating tactic is to instil an attitude in the mind of others that convinces them if Gennady Golovkin somehow loses a highly-competitive fight by decision, then they will strangely feel compelled to aggressively proclaim that the Kazakh has been “robbed” regardless as to whether most scorecards from those possessing an objective mind-set will deem the winner by perhaps only a one or two point margin either way.

It’s very similar to a kind of self-fulfilling prophecy, where the individual allows their personal bias to justify their belief that their expectation has been realised, when in fact it hasn’t, because their prejudiced or loyalty will blind them, preventing these people from recognising the events that occur in reality.

It feels as though the hard-core die-hard GGG fan base are desperately trying to cover all of their bases, by seeking excuses that cover all possible scenarios whereby Golovkin may possibly taste defeat to Canelo.

They do this in advance of the event itself so that they can aggressively proclaim that they “told you so” and that they “knew all along” that there was “no way” their man “was ever going to get a fair shake”.

I’m a Golovkin fan, but I appreciate Canelo also, but whilst I sincerely expect the Kazakh to emerge victorious against the Mexican, it is entirely possible that he could lose fair-and-square.

You have a beautiful mind Sir EO! I'm so excited and at the same time honored when you find some time from your very busy schedule to write something on my poor threads!

[apollo creed]

The topic of this thread is kind of comical, since multiple forum posters are repeating the same unsubstantiated “corrupt judges’ scorecard” accusation over and over again in an effort to wear everybody else down, desperately hoping that raw repetition alone will eventually displace the truth.

One of the objectives of this dishonest debating tactic is to instil an attitude in the mind of others that convinces them if Gennady Golovkin somehow loses a highly-competitive fight by decision, then they will strangely feel compelled to aggressively proclaim that the Kazakh has been “robbed” regardless as to whether most scorecards from those possessing an objective mind-set will deem the winner by perhaps only a one or two point margin either way.

It’s very similar to a kind of self-fulfilling prophecy, where the individual allows their personal bias to justify their belief that their expectation has been realised, when in fact it hasn’t, because their prejudiced or loyalty will blind them, preventing these people from recognising the events that occur in reality.

It feels as though the hard-core die-hard GGG fan base are desperately trying to cover all of their bases, by seeking excuses that cover all possible scenarios whereby Golovkin may possibly taste defeat to Canelo.

They do this in advance of the event itself so that they can aggressively proclaim that they “told you so” and that they “knew all along” that there was “no way” their man “was ever going to get a fair shake”.

I’m a Golovkin fan, but I appreciate Canelo also, but whilst I sincerely expect the Kazakh to emerge victorious against the Mexican, it is entirely possible that he could lose fair-and-square.

Not true. You've been on your soapbox for months with this ridiculous version of the story. Facts are facts. There are stories about this written by legitimate Boxing minds that get paid for their opinions not just guys like me who have nothing better to do in the morning so i just on here and voice it. No, it's not racism...it's not patriotism...it's not any kind of ISM you want to proclaim. It's about money...it's about organized crime and it's about the betting windows in Vegas.

With Floyd gone, Vegas has been prepping Canelo to take his place for years now. Do you realize how much money Floyd meant to Las Vegas in his career? This is what you have never understood. The Las Vegas Visitors and Convention Authority reports that a Floyd fight in Vegas has an estimated economic impact of 150 million dollars to the strip. The local non gaming economic impact is $15 million. THIS has nothing to do with skin color or homelands...Vegas would back anyone that brings them the kind of money Floyd did and Canelo is the guy to do it. He's been putting seats in the chairs for years now and proving he can carry the torch.

THIS is why GGG is going to have a very difficult time winning rounds. One of Canelo's punches equal 4 of his on the cards. Vegas stands to lose a ton of money if Canelo loses this fight. I'm talking about yearling reoccurring revenues that bolsters the whole area. This is why GGG needs the KO. Not because any of the ridiculous reason you've been proclaiming over and over again no matter how ridiculous people tell you your statements are.

100% true. Canelo is a young boxing star with huge drawing power. It's all about making big money.

[Enlightened-One]

The topic of this thread is kind of comical, since multiple forum posters are repeating the same unsubstantiated “corrupt judges’ scorecard” accusation over and over again in an effort to wear everybody else down, desperately hoping that raw repetition alone will eventually displace the truth.

One of the objectives of this dishonest debating tactic is to instil an attitude in the mind of others that convinces them if Gennady Golovkin somehow loses a highly-competitive fight by decision, then they will strangely feel compelled to aggressively proclaim that the Kazakh has been “robbed” regardless as to whether most scorecards from those possessing an objective mind-set will deem the winner by perhaps only a one or two point margin either way.

It’s very similar to a kind of self-fulfilling prophecy, where the individual allows their personal bias to justify their belief that their expectation has been realised, when in fact it hasn’t, because their prejudiced or loyalty will blind them, preventing these people from recognising the events that occur in reality.

It feels as though the hard-core die-hard GGG fan base are desperately trying to cover all of their bases, by seeking excuses that cover all possible scenarios whereby Golovkin may possibly taste defeat to Canelo.

They do this in advance of the event itself so that they can aggressively proclaim that they “told you so” and that they “knew all along” that there was “no way” their man “was ever going to get a fair shake”.

I’m a Golovkin fan, but I appreciate Canelo also, but whilst I sincerely expect the Kazakh to emerge victorious against the Mexican, it is entirely possible that he could lose fair-and-square.

Not true. You've been on your soapbox for months with this ridiculous version of the story. Facts are facts. There are stories about this written by legitimate Boxing minds that get paid for their opinions not just guys like me who have nothing better to do in the morning so i just on here and voice it. No, it's not racism...it's not patriotism...it's not any kind of ISM you want to proclaim. It's about money...it's about organized crime and it's about the betting windows in Vegas.

With Floyd gone, Vegas has been prepping Canelo to take his place for years now. Do you realize how much money Floyd meant to Las Vegas in his career? This is what you have never understood. The Las Vegas Visitors and Convention Authority reports that a Floyd fight in Vegas has an estimated economic impact of 150 million dollars to the strip. The local non gaming economic impact is $15 million. THIS has nothing to do with skin color or homelands...Vegas would back anyone that brings them the kind of money Floyd did and Canelo is the guy to do it. He's been putting seats in the chairs for years now and proving he can carry the torch.

THIS is why GGG is going to have a very difficult time winning rounds. One of Canelo's punches equal 4 of his on the cards. Vegas stands to lose a ton of money if Canelo loses this fight. I'm talking about yearling reoccurring revenues that bolsters the whole area. This is why GGG needs the KO. Not because any of the ridiculous reason you've been proclaiming over and over again no matter how ridiculous people tell you your statements are.

You shouldn't cite the phrase "facts are facts" when you're unable to substantiate any of your personal opinions with irrefutable evidence.

You cannot prove anything that you have claimed, which means you haven't actually supplied any factually correct information.

[apollo creed]

[apollo creed]

Not true. You've been on your soapbox for months with this ridiculous version of the story. Facts are facts. There are stories about this written by legitimate Boxing minds that get paid for their opinions not just guys like me who have nothing better to do in the morning so i just on here and voice it. No, it's not racism...it's not patriotism...it's not any kind of ISM you want to proclaim. It's about money...it's about organized crime and it's about the betting windows in Vegas.

With Floyd gone, Vegas has been prepping Canelo to take his place for years now. Do you realize how much money Floyd meant to Las Vegas in his career? This is what you have never understood. The Las Vegas Visitors and Convention Authority reports that a Floyd fight in Vegas has an estimated economic impact of 150 million dollars to the strip. The local non gaming economic impact is $15 million. THIS has nothing to do with skin color or homelands...Vegas would back anyone that brings them the kind of money Floyd did and Canelo is the guy to do it. He's been putting seats in the chairs for years now and proving he can carry the torch.

THIS is why GGG is going to have a very difficult time winning rounds. One of Canelo's punches equal 4 of his on the cards. Vegas stands to lose a ton of money if Canelo loses this fight. I'm talking about yearling reoccurring revenues that bolsters the whole area. This is why GGG needs the KO. Not because any of the ridiculous reason you've been proclaiming over and over again no matter how ridiculous people tell you your statements are.

You shouldn't cite the phrase "facts are facts" when you're unable to substantiate any of your personal opinions with irrefutable evidence.

You cannot prove anything that you have claimed, which means you haven't actually supplied any factually correct information.

[Oiky]

If GGG got robbed, no way would he get a rematch

[apollo creed]

If GGG got robbed, no way would he get a rematch

most probably.

[Kalan]

NO, he will NOT!

Canelo will insist he won fair and square and say the fight was extremely close and could have gone either way... He'll make Golovkin wait forever while Canelo fights BJS and other soft Middleweight contenders... He'll say Golovkin should fight Jacobs again and claim he lost that fight.

It's imperative that Triple-G win this fight extremely decisively... He has to pull out all stops to do so… The entire Boxing Establishment is arrayed against him, and Canelo is in the condition of his life... This will take a determined and sustained 12-round effort.

[Tanzio]

I am convinced that this is not going to the cards.

[apollo creed]

NO, he will NOT!

Canelo will insist he won fair and square and say the fight was extremely close and could have gone either way... He'll make Golovkin wait forever while Canelo fights BJS and other soft Middleweight contenders... He'll say Golovkin should fight Jacobs again and claim he lost that fight.

It's imperative that Triple-G win this fight extremely decisively... He has to pull out all stops to do so… The entire Boxing Establishment is arrayed against him, and Canelo is in the condition of his life... This will take a determined and sustained 12-round effort.

Even if GGG gets robbed , he could rematch Jacobs then fight Jermall.

[caldo2025]

The topic of this thread is kind of comical, since multiple forum posters are repeating the same unsubstantiated “corrupt judges’ scorecard” accusation over and over again in an effort to wear everybody else down, desperately hoping that raw repetition alone will eventually displace the truth.

One of the objectives of this dishonest debating tactic is to instil an attitude in the mind of others that convinces them if Gennady Golovkin somehow loses a highly-competitive fight by decision, then they will strangely feel compelled to aggressively proclaim that the Kazakh has been “robbed” regardless as to whether most scorecards from those possessing an objective mind-set will deem the winner by perhaps only a one or two point margin either way.

It’s very similar to a kind of self-fulfilling prophecy, where the individual allows their personal bias to justify their belief that their expectation has been realised, when in fact it hasn’t, because their prejudiced or loyalty will blind them, preventing these people from recognising the events that occur in reality.

It feels as though the hard-core die-hard GGG fan base are desperately trying to cover all of their bases, by seeking excuses that cover all possible scenarios whereby Golovkin may possibly taste defeat to Canelo.

They do this in advance of the event itself so that they can aggressively proclaim that they “told you so” and that they “knew all along” that there was “no way” their man “was ever going to get a fair shake”.

I’m a Golovkin fan, but I appreciate Canelo also, but whilst I sincerely expect the Kazakh to emerge victorious against the Mexican, it is entirely possible that he could lose fair-and-square.

Not true. You've been on your soapbox for months with this ridiculous version of the story. Facts are facts. There are stories about this written by legitimate Boxing minds that get paid for their opinions not just guys like me who have nothing better to do in the morning so i just on here and voice it. No, it's not racism...it's not patriotism...it's not any kind of ISM you want to proclaim. It's about money...it's about organized crime and it's about the betting windows in Vegas.

With Floyd gone, Vegas has been prepping Canelo to take his place for years now. Do you realize how much money Floyd meant to Las Vegas in his career? This is what you have never understood. The Las Vegas Visitors and Convention Authority reports that a Floyd fight in Vegas has an estimated economic impact of 150 million dollars to the strip. The local non gaming economic impact is $15 million. THIS has nothing to do with skin color or homelands...Vegas would back anyone that brings them the kind of money Floyd did and Canelo is the guy to do it. He's been putting seats in the chairs for years now and proving he can carry the torch.

THIS is why GGG is going to have a very difficult time winning rounds. One of Canelo's punches equal 4 of his on the cards. Vegas stands to lose a ton of money if Canelo loses this fight. I'm talking about yearling reoccurring revenues that bolsters the whole area. This is why GGG needs the KO. Not because any of the ridiculous reason you've been proclaiming over and over again no matter how ridiculous people tell you your statements are.

You shouldn't cite the phrase "facts are facts" when you're unable to substantiate any of your personal opinions with irrefutable evidence.

You cannot prove anything that you have claimed, which means you haven't actually supplied any factually correct information.

What a dope you are. Perfect timing for them to announce the ref and the judges for this weekend. Did you see that pea brain? Byrd and Moretti are two of the 3 judges and Kenny Baylis as the ref. Again, I know that you are not smart but even a dumb kid that craps in the tub while taking a bath can put 2 and 2 together here. The same players that protected Floyd for years in Vegas and you don't see it even after this announcement. I can't help you then man. Move on.

[apollo creed]

Not true. You've been on your soapbox for months with this ridiculous version of the story. Facts are facts. There are stories about this written by legitimate Boxing minds that get paid for their opinions not just guys like me who have nothing better to do in the morning so i just on here and voice it. No, it's not racism...it's not patriotism...it's not any kind of ISM you want to proclaim. It's about money...it's about organized crime and it's about the betting windows in Vegas.

With Floyd gone, Vegas has been prepping Canelo to take his place for years now. Do you realize how much money Floyd meant to Las Vegas in his career? This is what you have never understood. The Las Vegas Visitors and Convention Authority reports that a Floyd fight in Vegas has an estimated economic impact of 150 million dollars to the strip. The local non gaming economic impact is $15 million. THIS has nothing to do with skin color or homelands...Vegas would back anyone that brings them the kind of money Floyd did and Canelo is the guy to do it. He's been putting seats in the chairs for years now and proving he can carry the torch.

THIS is why GGG is going to have a very difficult time winning rounds. One of Canelo's punches equal 4 of his on the cards. Vegas stands to lose a ton of money if Canelo loses this fight. I'm talking about yearling reoccurring revenues that bolsters the whole area. This is why GGG needs the KO. Not because any of the ridiculous reason you've been proclaiming over and over again no matter how ridiculous people tell you your statements are.

You shouldn't cite the phrase "facts are facts" when you're unable to substantiate any of your personal opinions with irrefutable evidence.

You cannot prove anything that you have claimed, which means you haven't actually supplied any factually correct information.

What a dope you are. Perfect timing for them to announce the ref and the judges for this weekend. Did you see that pea brain? Byrd and Moretti are two of the 3 judges and Kenny Baylis as the ref. Again, I know that you are not smart but even a dumb kid that craps in the tub while taking a bath can put 2 and 2 together here. The same players that protected Floyd for years in Vegas and you don't see it even after this announcement. I can't help you then man. Move on.

referee: Kenny Bayless | Adalaide Byrd | Dave Moretti

GGG must try to force a stoppage otherwise he won't get the decision even if he drops Canelo in every round of the fight.

[Enlightened-One]

GGG must try to force a stoppage otherwise he won't get the decision even if he drops Canelo in every round of the fight.

That's a very silly remark to make.

[boxing_rocks]

Absolutely, GGG needs a stoppage or clear domination with at least 2 KDs.

[apollo creed]

GGG must try to force a stoppage otherwise he won't get the decision even if he drops Canelo in every round of the fight.

That's a very silly remark to make.

[pound per pound]

Come on, AC. You know the answer to this. IF, or should I say, WHEN Canelo steals the decision then he's long gone and will never fight GGG again. The real question should be " DO YOU THINK THAT GGG KNOWS THAT HE NEEDS A KNOCKOUT TO WIN THIS FIGHT?"

This really is disappointing. We have a great match up here, and the judge's votes if it goes the distance are already in.

Yes, both Canelo and Golovkin know the close rounds will go to Canelo. This alters the strategy of both fighters.

[boxing_rocks]

Unfortunately, this is how this business works. Canelo is a clear A side, and he is ordering the music. One judge from the East Coast is all Team GGG was able to achieve. From what Sanchez is saying, they clear understand that the deck is stacked, and they need a KO or very clear domination.

[apollo creed]

Unfortunately, this is how this business works. Canelo is a clear A side, and he is ordering the music. One judge from the East Coast is all Team GGG was able to achieve. From what Sanchez is saying, they clear understand that the deck is stacked, and they need a KO or very clear domination.

If it's not a T/K.O win, it has to be a real beating with KD's. Anyway I think it's pretty hard to KO Canelo. He looks strong like an ox and he can take a punch. GGG better try to ram that left hook thru Canelo's ribcage.

[Enlightened-One]

People are making assumptions without possessing any justification whatsoever for their thoughts.

It's really fûckîng stupid to think that way!

[boxing_rocks]

No justification??? Are outrageous cards against Trout, Lara and Floyd not enough?

Are similar cards gifted to dozens of A side/hometown fighters not enough?

[Enlightened-One]

No justification??? Are outrageous cards against Trout, Lara and Floyd not enough?

Are similar cards gifted to dozens of A side/hometown fighters not enough?

I've asked you to provide justification for your accusations.

I exist in an evidence-based version of reality where facts really do matter.

When have Adalaide Byrd, Dave Moretti, Don Trella and Kenny Bayless clearly demonstrated an unreasonable amount of bias that Canelo clearly benefited from?

[Evander]

Canelo probably would grant a rematch especially if the fight makes big coin.

Won't matter if someone gets robbed in the big scheme of things because the person who's the recipient will not be recognized and past and future fights maybe regarded as phonies and taint them simple as that.

[Badhusker]

No justification??? Are outrageous cards against Trout, Lara and Floyd not enough?

Are similar cards gifted to dozens of A side/hometown fighters not enough?

I've asked you to provide justification for your accusations.

I exist in an evidence-based version of reality where facts really do matter.

When have Adalaide Byrd, Dave Moretti, Don Trella and Kenny Bayless clearly demonstrated an unreasonable amount of bias that Canelo clearly benefited from?

That is easy, just looking at his fight with Floyd. Moretti gave it to Floyd 116-112, when Floyd won every round.