PARKER VS JOSHUA or WILDER or Easy Opponent NEXT?

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I am just wondering who will Joseph Parker fight next after he dispatches Hughie Fury on Sept.23, a bout I think he will win by TKO between 4-6 rounds,
He has talked of facing Anthony Joshua and Deontay Wilder, But I am thinking after Fury he will take another Easy defence against someone like Jarrell Miller, Dillian White or the German Tom Schwarz who fights for the WBO inter cont. Title one week after Parkers fight with Fury, so there is that WBO connection.
Joshua is fighting Pulev, Wilder against Ortiz if it comes off, so it looks like everyone is avoiding Alexander POVETKIN...
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I like your confidence Doug. I think he will beat Hughie, but it is far from a givin.
It's too soon in my opinion for a fight with AJ. Probably never going to be competitive either.
I think your suggestion of Whyte is closer than Millar. But my guess is either Haye or more likely Bellew.
Eddie is sniffing around Joe's belt like a peado in a playpen, so it would most likely be someone from his stable.
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I'm hoping for Povetkin actually, it seems like a close fight to me, somehow I'm not so sure if he will beat Fury.
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Parker has mentioned fighting again in December if he gets past Hughie. If this happens we can rule out AJ, Pulev, Wilder, Ortiz, Stiverne, Breazle because of their upcoming bouts. (Providing they happen) looking at the WBO top 15, that leaves -

Christian Hammer
Tom Schwarz
Jarell Miller
Alexander Povetkin
Kyotaro Fujimoto
Dillian Whyte
Agit Kabayel
Zhilei Zhang
Otto Wallin
Ameir Mansour

Personally I dont think Haye or Bellew deserve title shots. Based on the list above, Jarell Miller would be my pick
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And Povetkin..
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I think it could be a big fight in England for him.
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I would like to see Parker vs Povetkin because I think that Alexander finally deserves to win a title.
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Miller, Whyte or Povetkin would make an excellent match-up for Parker although I'm with Kiwi:- Haye or Bellew is more likely. WTF has Fujimoto done to get himself in any top 20 never mind contention? He's not even the best Heavyweight in the Far East of Asia.

Same with Tom Schwarz. Apart from beating one of the Lewandowski's and the decent but much smaller Mezencev, he's done nothing deserving of a ranking. He should fight Michael Wallisch or Agit Kabayel before thinking about world title shots.

Big Doug: You think Miller is an easy defence for Parker ? :o
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I think Miller would make a competetive fight for 7 or 8 rounds then Parker wears him down for a late stoppage
Lets remember the Ruiz fight was close but I think Parker got the nod correctly, then he trains for Hughie Fury in New Zealand the Fury pulls out, so in steps an overmatched former sparring partner who I think Parker could of Put him away in a couple of rounds.
but he got a good workout letting it go the distance, (smart move),
this fight in England Parker knows he has to impress and knowing that Fury is a dangerous opponent especially with the overhand right.
I believe Parker will want this fight over as quick as he can
thats why I am picking him to win inside 6 rounds.
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BIGDOUG58 wrote:I think Miller would make a competetive fight for 7 or 8 rounds then Parker wears him down for a late stoppage
Lets remember the Ruiz fight was close but I think Parker got the nod correctly, then he trains for Hughie Fury in New Zealand the Fury pulls out, so in steps an overmatched former sparring partner who I think Parker could of Put him away in a couple of rounds.
but he got a good workout letting it go the distance, (smart move),
this fight in England Parker knows he has to impress and knowing that Fury is a dangerous opponent especially with the overhand right.
I believe Parker will want this fight over as quick as he can
thats why I am picking him to win inside 6 rounds.
Don't agree with a lot of that.

Miller vs Parker is a competitive fight imo based on what miller showed vs Washington. Parker will have to have a bit more pop than what he's showed so far or maybe be better on the back foot to stop the 300lber walking forward. Not saying miller wins, but it's a fight

Ruiz vs Parker could have gone either way imo

Parker couldn't put away his sparring partner I don't think. He tried, and the opponent only wished to survive, not win, but he didn't have the power or the craft to open him up and get rid of him that night

I think Parker will beat fury though, but fury is a bit of an unknown quantity so I say that with not complete confidence. Parkers so open defensively a sharp boxer or a guy with real power has him in trouble
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How about Joseph Parker fighting Lucas Browne? Browne is from Australia and Parker is from New Zealand. I think it would be a competitive fight and it would do well financially considering they are from countries near to each other. However, Browne is 38, so I think Parker's team wants Browne to age a little more.
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I reckon have Whyte v Browne and then the winner faces the winner of Parker v Fury - that what I would like to happen, but it's probably going to be Parker v Bellew...
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RScarf1 wrote:How about Joseph Parker fighting Lucas Browne? Browne is from Australia and Parker is from New Zealand. I think it would be a competitive fight and it would do well financially considering they are from countries near to each other. However, Browne is 38, so I think Parker's team wants Browne to age a little more.
You cheeky monkey :lol:
Browne dosent bring anything to the party. From what I can gather Parker is attempting to build his UK profile and Browne does not fit the bill...
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KiwiRider wrote:
RScarf1 wrote:How about Joseph Parker fighting Lucas Browne? Browne is from Australia and Parker is from New Zealand. I think it would be a competitive fight and it would do well financially considering they are from countries near to each other. However, Browne is 38, so I think Parker's team wants Browne to age a little more.
You cheeky monkey :lol:
Browne dosent bring anything to the party. From what I can gather Parker is attempting to build his UK profile and Browne does not fit the bill...
A matchup like Parker vs. Browne would do very well in Australia or New Zealand and you know it. What does Baby Huey bring to the table except the Fury last name? Parker said he would KO Joshua. He's delusional.
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KiwiRider wrote:
RScarf1 wrote:How about Joseph Parker fighting Lucas Browne? Browne is from Australia and Parker is from New Zealand. I think it would be a competitive fight and it would do well financially considering they are from countries near to each other. However, Browne is 38, so I think Parker's team wants Browne to age a little more.
You cheeky monkey :lol:
Browne dosent bring anything to the party. From what I can gather Parker is attempting to build his UK profile and Browne does not fit the bill...
What are there fan bases like? In other sports aus vs NZ is a good affair. It makes sense logistically at least that fight
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When Parker fights a legitimate top 15 contender in New Zealand, people buy tickets. If Parker fought Browne in New Zealand, it would be sold out or close to it. However, Parker's team does not want to take that risk and they don't have to because Browne is not rated in the top 15 of the WBO. Browne is rated No. 11 by BoxRec.
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Ossyrules wrote:
BIGDOUG58 wrote:I think Miller would make a competetive fight for 7 or 8 rounds then Parker wears him down for a late stoppage
Lets remember the Ruiz fight was close but I think Parker got the nod correctly, then he trains for Hughie Fury in New Zealand the Fury pulls out, so in steps an overmatched former sparring partner who I think Parker could of Put him away in a couple of rounds.
but he got a good workout letting it go the distance, (smart move),
this fight in England Parker knows he has to impress and knowing that Fury is a dangerous opponent especially with the overhand right.
I believe Parker will want this fight over as quick as he can
thats why I am picking him to win inside 6 rounds.
Don't agree with a lot of that.

Miller vs Parker is a competitive fight imo based on what miller showed vs Washington. Parker will have to have a bit more pop than what he's showed so far or maybe be better on the back foot to stop the 300lber walking forward. Not saying miller wins, but it's a fight

Ruiz vs Parker could have gone either way imo

Parker couldn't put away his sparring partner I don't think. He tried, and the opponent only wished to survive, not win, but he didn't have the power or the craft to open him up and get rid of him that night

I think Parker will beat fury though, but fury is a bit of an unknown quantity so I say that with not complete confidence. Parkers so open defensively a sharp boxer or a guy with real power has him in trouble
I agree with all of that (Ossyrules) except maybe the last line where I'm undecided. I guess we'll find out but not this year.
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RScarf1 wrote:How about Joseph Parker fighting Lucas Browne? Browne is from Australia and Parker is from New Zealand. I think it would be a competitive fight and it would do well financially considering they are from countries near to each other. However, Browne is 38, so I think Parker's team wants Browne to age a little more.
If thought that for a few years now. Not necessarily that Parker's team are waiting for Browne to hit the slide, but the part about it being the most natural heavyweight fight in the southern hemisphere.

I think the problem is first Brown thought Parker was just a pup, then Parker won a title and felt he was beyond fighting Browne and the switch around happened too quickly without any period where the scales were evenly balanced.
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candyslim wrote:
RScarf1 wrote:How about Joseph Parker fighting Lucas Browne? Browne is from Australia and Parker is from New Zealand. I think it would be a competitive fight and it would do well financially considering they are from countries near to each other. However, Browne is 38, so I think Parker's team wants Browne to age a little more.
If thought that for a few years now. Not necessarily that Parker's team are waiting for Browne to hit the slide, but the part about it being the most natural heavyweight fight in the southern hemisphere.

I think the problem is first Brown thought Parker was just a pup, then Parker won a title and felt he was beyond fighting Browne and the switch around happened too quickly without any period where the scales were evenly balanced.
Even if Browne was rated by the WBO, Parker still would not fight him. If Parker lost to Browne, Parker would no longer have the WBO belt. He would be just another contender which is what he really is, but having the belt gives him prestige.
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Doesn't that apply to anybody who is as dangerous as Browne? Browne against Whyte will be a great fight if it happens, which it should. Ortiz was mooted as an opponent on the AJ/Pulev undercard but looks like he's fighting Wilder. The other possibility was Big Baby Miller but looks like Miller will be on the undercard to Wilder.

Dillian would have fought all three on the same night if you let him. He may not be the best but I love that guy's heart and attitude.
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candyslim wrote:Doesn't that apply to anybody who is as dangerous as Browne? Browne against Whyte will be a great fight if it happens, which it should. Ortiz was mooted as an opponent on the AJ/Pulev undercard but looks like he's fighting Wilder. The other possibility was Big Baby Miller but looks like Miller will be on the undercard to Wilder.

Dillian would have fought all three on the same night if you let him. He may not be the best but I love that guy's heart and attitude.
Gosh I feel a bit pressured to respond to the last three posts.
I'll give it a go here;
Yes Parker Browne is a good fight. It should have happened 2 years ago.
Yes they have both got large antipodean fan bases and it would sell big time. Browne has been put back by the two failed drug tests (wrongly or rightly) and that puts a bad taste in a lot of people's mouths, including Parker's team.
You have to understand that Parker has been living and training in Vegas for a few years and the focus is on the UK and USA. Parker's team need to break those markets, in their own words.
The Browne fight could have happened around the time Parker faced Takem, but Browne was suspended and now the window gas pretty much closed. It may reopen if Browne beats Whyte. Until then it is not on Parker's radar. Every one wants a go at his belt, after this mandatory he his not short of dance partners.
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Yeah I wasn't criticising I see why the fight never got made. It'd be a cracker though and it's a shame it didn't. At 38 time is running out. Maybe before long you'll get Fa v Meehan and/or Ahio v Opetaia to get Antipodean pulses racing.
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Probably Christian Hammer.

You can't realistically predict who a fighter is going to fight, especially before their scheduled fight has even taken place. We have to see what his margin of victory against Fury is. After Parker struggled against Ruiz, his handlers were necessarily concerned that he wasn't as good as they thought. If he blows Hughie Fury away, they're probably going to look to match him when another top 15 opponent, like Dillian Whyte or Christian Hammer. If he struggles with Fury, they're probably going to match him up with someone outside the top 15, like Kyotaro Fujimoto, Zhilei Zhang, or Amir Mansour. They probably aren't going to match him up with someone elite until he destroys a top 10 opponent.
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If Parker fought Joshua next and Wilder fought Stiverne it would set up the fight for everything. The WBO would do some dumb move like make Haye the mandatory to ruin it though.
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If he's going to squeeze another fight in before years end why not take Fujimoto on in Japan. Japan is a m,massive boxing market and a Heavyweight World Title fight there which includes one of there own fighting would be HUGE. JP is almost guaranteed to win via KO/TKO and it introduces him to another market and keeps his wheels turning while Bellew, Haye etc sort themselves out
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