Arum, Team Parker Outraged Over Referee For Fury Defense

[belta53]

In my opinion Terry O'Connor is an awful referee, he is a guy that introduces an element of chaos into many of the fights he is in charge of.

I can understand completely why Parker's team would challenge him being in charge of this world title bout.

Look for example at Liam Smith v Liam Williams, there he ruled the cut to Williams eye that eventually stopped the bout was from a punch rather than an accidental clash of heads. Also the way he allowed Smith to get away with an awful intentional head butt.

Look at how he has allowed some fights to go on way further than they should have, ie, Groves v Gutknecht.

Look at the way he cautioned Linares for low blows in the first Linares v Crolla bout and gave the home fighter (Crolla) extra time to recover from blows that looked legal to most observers.

I am always amazed at how Terry gets world title fights, is there something I am missing here?

[PredatorHayds]

In the same interview he called Hennessy a amateur. Said they haven't even sold 3k tickets.

[crusader]

In my opinion Terry O'Connor is an awful referee, he is a guy that introduces an element of chaos into many of the fights he is in charge of.

I can understand completely why Parker's team would challenge him being in charge of this world title bout.

Look for example at Liam Smith v Liam Williams, there he ruled the cut to Williams eye that eventually stopped the bout was from a punch rather than an accidental clash of heads. Also the way he allowed Smith to get away with an awful intentional head butt.

Look at how he has allowed some fights to go on way further than they should have, ie, Groves v Gutknecht.

Look at the way he cautioned Linares for low blows in the first Linares v Crolla bout and gave the home fighter (Crolla) extra time to recover from blows that looked legal to most observers.

I am always amazed at how Terry gets world title fights, is there something I am missing here?

TOC must have a nice relationship wth someone at the BBBofC. Poo ref no doubt...

[jameswilson]

In the same interview he called Hennessy a amateur. Said they haven't even sold 3k tickets.

That's an insult to amateurs surely.

[FastestHandsInThewest]

UK is so dirty and corrupt.

[nitro5912]

In my opinion Terry O'Connor is an awful referee, he is a guy that introduces an element of chaos into many of the fights he is in charge of.

I can understand completely why Parker's team would challenge him being in charge of this world title bout.

Look for example at Liam Smith v Liam Williams, there he ruled the cut to Williams eye that eventually stopped the bout was from a punch rather than an accidental clash of heads. Also the way he allowed Smith to get away with an awful intentional head butt.

Look at how he has allowed some fights to go on way further than they should have, ie, Groves v Gutknecht.

Look at the way he cautioned Linares for low blows in the first Linares v Crolla bout and gave the home fighter (Crolla) extra time to recover from blows that looked legal to most observers.

I am always amazed at how Terry gets world title fights, is there something I am missing here?

He must be the only person in the world who didn't see the headbutt

[Andrew]

In my opinion Terry O'Connor is an awful referee, he is a guy that introduces an element of chaos into many of the fights he is in charge of.

I can understand completely why Parker's team would challenge him being in charge of this world title bout.

Look for example at Liam Smith v Liam Williams, there he ruled the cut to Williams eye that eventually stopped the bout was from a punch rather than an accidental clash of heads. Also the way he allowed Smith to get away with an awful intentional head butt.

Look at how he has allowed some fights to go on way further than they should have, ie, Groves v Gutknecht.

Look at the way he cautioned Linares for low blows in the first Linares v Crolla bout and gave the home fighter (Crolla) extra time to recover from blows that looked legal to most observers.

I am always amazed at how Terry gets world title fights, is there something I am missing here?

Carrying Cleverly to his corner and almost getting him killed v Sergey Kovalev

Allowing Khan to continue after the first knockdown against prescott. No way was he fit enough to continue

[jamesmcdonnell]

I do agree that in a world title fight, in an ideal world there should be neutral judges, or at least a mixture.

However, in practical terms that is not going to always be possible, there are not that many professional judges worldwide, who are even qualified to officiate world title bouts, and therefore availability is going to be an issue.

As far as I am aware, it is still the situation that the promoter pays the governing body for the judges fees and expenses, and therefore there is the potential for pressure from the promoter, especially

However, a sanctioning body could not have rules stating that judges could not be from the home country of one of the fighters for a world title bout, for both practical reasons, but also because it would be implying their sanctioned judges could not be trusted to be impartial, which would obviously create serious problems.

Personally I believe Browne's camp has every right to contest the allocation of judges, but also, the WBO is under no obligation to do so, for the reasons discussed, it is a guideline, and not a rule, and therefore they cannot be forced to change.

There need to be far more boxing judges than there are currently. It would ease the situation somewhat.

Browne?

No idea why that popped in my head...

[Lenny]

Notoriously shit, hometown favouring ref. Parkers people wouldn't be doing their job if they just sat back and accepted this. Big Terry's rap sheet is as big as they come and he should have been thrown off the circuit years ago, not continued to get world title fights

[mikiesb]

Never thought of this re.boxing but.. surely for a world title fight there should be a referee from a neutral country.like they do in the football world cup/qualifiers etc? Judges who are.scoring the points are.from neutral countries ?
Surely.there are enough.world class referees available.from a neutral country ? Good luck to both fighters should be a good fight !

[belta53]

Never thought of this re.boxing but.. surely for a world title fight there should be a referee from a neutral country.like they do in the football world cup/qualifiers etc? Judges who are.scoring the points are.from neutral countries ?
Surely.there are enough.world class referees available.from a neutral country ? Good luck to both fighters should be a good fight !

Boxing is not like other sports.
Impartiality is over ridden by other considerations.
It is quite common for a referee from the home fighters country to referee a world title bout. It seems to happen more in voluntary defenses of a title as compared to mandatory defenses. I imagine this is because the mandatory challenger generally has more say in how the contract for the bout is written.

[jameswilson]

We aren't renowned for having the best referees or judges. And if, despite that, you still stand out among everyone as being a shi te referee then you must surely know something is wrong. I rate O'Connor as the very worst of our referees.

[handsofstone]

If they were gonna go with a British ref, they should've went with IJL, Hughie landing a jab then IJL jumping on Parker waving his arms like a mad man

[KiwiRider]

If they were gonna go with a British ref, they should've went with IJL, Hughie landing a jab then IJL jumping on Parker waving his arms like a mad man

Lewis is too small to be in with these guys unfortunately. I dont mind him.

[Exoddus]

This is a total disgrace. Terry O'Connor gave the first Tyson Fury vs McDermott to Tyson Fury when in fact John won that fight by a good 5 rounds. So how can he be allowed to referee his cousin? That's even before you mention nationalities and the location the fights in too.

[Covfefe]

This is a total disgrace. Terry O'Connor gave the first Tyson Fury vs McDermott to Tyson Fury when in fact John won that fight by a good 5 rounds. So how can he be allowed to referee his cousin? That's even before you mention nationalities and the location the fights in too.

I scored it a draw on the night, never watched it back.

[rd350lc]

Why is it that yanks moan when a fight involving a British fighter in Britain has a British ref overseeing the bout? Our lot don't moan about yanks reffing yanks in America.

Which yanks are you referring to exactly?

The American ones .

[belta53]

The crazy thing is Terry O'Connor actually gets to travel the world and referee title fights.

In July 2017 he went to Germany to referee a EBU (European) Light Heavyweight Title bout between Boesel and Murat. I watched the final two rounds of the fight on youtube, in round 10 he incorrectly ruled that Murat was not knocked down by Boesel (it was clear a punch had landed and thus for me had to be a knockdown), then in the 11th and final round he allows the fight to continue when it is clear that Boesel has taken enough punishment. Boesel ends up taking 3 or 4 unanswered blows that really were not necessary.

If the Hennessy team want to use a British referee why not use someone like Steve Gray, Michael Alexander, Marcus McDonnell or Phil Edwards. I realize its not an easy job being a referee but any of these 4 for me would be a much better choice than TOC.

[SaadOffTheDeck]

Why is it that yanks moan when a fight involving a British fighter in Britain has a British ref overseeing the bout? Our lot don't moan about yanks reffing yanks in America.

Which yanks are you referring to exactly?

The American ones .

Us yanks don't have much to do with Parker/fury.

[banjo]

Why is it that yanks moan when a fight involving a British fighter in Britain has a British ref overseeing the bout? Our lot don't moan about yanks reffing yanks in America.

Which yanks are you referring to exactly?

In this case Bob Arum

[Tuan_Jim]

We should review Terry O'Connor's behaviour in boxing rings these past 15, 20 years. He has been responsible for uncountable controversies. No wonder the BBBC and Team Fury want him. You don't need to be a big puncher to stop your man when Terry has your back.

[rd350lc]

Which yanks are you referring to exactly?

The American ones .

Us yanks don't have much to do with Parker/fury.

Nor do us Brits either

[Andrew]

Another one.

Terry OConnor also robbed John McDermott in the first Fury fight.

As a result English title fights were scored by 3 judges afterwards.

I actually fancy a Fury stoppage now.

[punchers chance]

Parker's team are fools for giving up home advantage as belt holders. This sort of thing goes on everywhere when you concede home advantage. If Parker was going to sell the belt he should have done so for a big money fight with AJ or Wilder.

[Andrew]

Parker's team are fools for giving up home advantage as belt holders. This sort of thing goes on everywhere when you concede home advantage. If Parker was going to sell the belt he should have done so for a big money fight with AJ or Wilder.

They must be getting good money

They seemed to be struggling to find it in NZ.

Then again everyone on here is wondering how the fight is getting funded here.

From Parkers point of view their purse is in an escrow account. So they are 100% getting paid.