Round-By-Round - Billy Joe Saunders (c) vs. Willie Monroe jr - September 16th 2017

[Jackson328]

Fury is a frustrating bloke because I get the impression he's 99% great most of the time. He says things which are pretty/very distasteful but I think there's a bit of a feeling that he doesn't mean them.

Saunders just seems like a genuinely horrible bully.

I also think Tyson Fury seems a decent bloke who has a completely different persona when he's under the spotlight and I'd love to go out for a pint with him.

I've always been an admirer of BJS the boxer but the more I've seen of him outside the ring the less I admire him and the antics at the weigh-in were proper cringeworthy. I did used to wonder about his apparent obsession with Eubank Jr too, he could never stop talking about the bloke even after chalking up a win against him, it just seemed really weird to me. I wouldn't like to go out for a pint with Saunders at all.

Thats a truly British way of summing up your feelings about someone isn't it? Would you go for a pint with this man etc . . .

[Londonirish]

You're right. Just spoke to my friend, George Robshaw, 100 fights, am and pro, unbeaten as a pro, England rep, etc, he was embarrassed. And I've never heard George raise his voice!

Very good boxer fought on same shows as him and his brother as an amuture...

Eurgh his kid is a little scumrat. People don't hate gypsies (or 'travellers' as is the PC Term) for no reason, it's cos they are mostly scum.

when you see any you should tell them this face to face instead of hiding behind a computer being a warrior, What's your Name? Not computer name what area I will swing by and you can say it to my face...

[Gnome]

What a prat. C'mon Willie Monroe, put some manners on him.

[Tanzio]

You're right. Just spoke to my friend, George Robshaw, 100 fights, am and pro, unbeaten as a pro, England rep, etc, he was embarrassed. And I've never heard George raise his voice!

Very good boxer fought on same shows as him and his brother as an amuture...

Eurgh his kid is a little scumrat. People don't hate gypsies (or 'travellers' as is the PC Term) for no reason, it's cos they are mostly scum.

when you see any you should tell them this face to face instead of hiding behind a computer being a warrior, What's your Name? Not computer name what area I will swing by and you can say it to my face...

Here we go.

BJS is a fvcking punk.

[Boxerbeetle]

You're right. Just spoke to my friend, George Robshaw, 100 fights, am and pro, unbeaten as a pro, England rep, etc, he was embarrassed. And I've never heard George raise his voice!

Very good boxer fought on same shows as him and his brother as an amuture...

Eurgh his kid is a little scumrat. People don't hate gypsies (or 'travellers' as is the PC Term) for no reason, it's cos they are mostly scum.

when you see any you should tell them this face to face instead of hiding behind a computer being a warrior, What's your Name? Not computer name what area I will swing by and you can say it to my face...

Here we go.

BJS is a fvcking punk.

Yeah no-one is saying he isn't. But that doesn't mean every single traveller is.

[TheCobra]

Very good boxer fought on same shows as him and his brother as an amuture...








when you see any you should tell them this face to face instead of hiding behind a computer being a warrior, What's your Name? Not computer name what area I will swing by and you can say it to my face...

Here we go.

BJS is a fvcking punk.

Yeah no-one is saying he isn't. But that doesn't mean every single traveller is.

Yep just read my post back it's a bit out of line, I'm not a keyboard warrior at all and I apologise cos I know you're decent lads on here, I just had some bad run-ins with gypsies/travellers in my youth and I think I'm a bit 'prejudiced' due to my experiences. I don't think it makes it necessarily right, but that's my experiences coming to the fore.

[rab]

Even the kids language was bad. He will have had zero rules. They'll find it funny. Fury gets stuck but he is so well mannered you wouldn't believe.

the travellers i know would give their kids thick ears if they spoke like that . saunders gone down a fair bit in my estimation after that . absolutely no need at all. munroe comes across as a decent bloke and has been the consummate professional throughout.

[mickey1975]

You're right. Just spoke to my friend, George Robshaw, 100 fights, am and pro, unbeaten as a pro, England rep, etc, he was embarrassed. And I've never heard George raise his voice!

Very good boxer fought on same shows as him and his brother as an amuture...

Eurgh his kid is a little scumrat. People don't hate gypsies (or 'travellers' as is the PC Term) for no reason, it's cos they are mostly scum.

when you see any you should tell them this face to face instead of hiding behind a computer being a warrior, What's your Name? Not computer name what area I will swing by and you can say it to my face...

I'll tell George and Reg you said that, Martin, they'll appreciate it.

[bripez]

You're right. Just spoke to my friend, George Robshaw, 100 fights, am and pro, unbeaten as a pro, England rep, etc, he was embarrassed. And I've never heard George raise his voice!

Very good boxer fought on same shows as him and his brother as an amuture...

Eurgh his kid is a little scumrat. People don't hate gypsies (or 'travellers' as is the PC Term) for no reason, it's cos they are mostly scum.

when you see any you should tell them this face to face instead of hiding behind a computer being a warrior, What's your Name? Not computer name what area I will swing by and you can say it to my face...

But the of an ironic post - you do realise that you are reinforcing these stereotypes?

[Oiky]

Don't get all the gypsy bashing

It's a saying that gets run into the ground, but there is good and bad in everybody

You's must've never seen gorja children act up or be brazen in any way? But because one travelling child does something, comments like feral and scum come out. Not to anybody's face though comments like that show ignorance from your side aswell

[Tanzio]

Very good boxer fought on same shows as him and his brother as an amuture...








when you see any you should tell them this face to face instead of hiding behind a computer being a warrior, What's your Name? Not computer name what area I will swing by and you can say it to my face...

Here we go.

BJS is a fvcking punk.

Yeah no-one is saying he isn't. But that doesn't mean every single traveller is.

Fair enough. Then make the argument rather than play into it. Does calling a numbnut out online do anything whatsofvcking ever to disprove his claim?

No it does not. It strengthens his pitiful position.

Anyone, Traveller / Gypsy or otherwise who raises their kids like BJS and manipulates them to assault people should be kneecapped, beaten senseless, neutered and have their children taken away. If they are going to propagate a cycle of violence they need to be dealt with.

Now, go ahead and tell me what a keyboard warrior I am.

[mickey1975]

The amount of hassle I've had on here for being friends with a former world class traveller boxer is incredible, yet if you look through his entire career, he never insulted one opponent!

[leejonesjnr]

Its a shame that often generalisations are made in instances like this.
People sometimes seem to think that because gypsies are white that 'its not really racism'.
I think that BJS has acted very poorly in the build up to this fight and the child punching, kicking and swearing does look like a set up, however the negative comments should be directed at BJS not all travellers.
Most sensible people will agree that just like all walks of life, colours, nationalities etc, some gypsies are good, some are bad, some are tall, some are short etc etc.
Coincidentally a couple of gypsies came into my gym for the first time today, paid for their session, did a very nicely structured and organised workout, changed and left. Polite and courteous throughout.
I also have some gypsies in the club and that I do 1-2-1s with and they are great lads.
BJS has been a fool but thats nothing to do with being a gypsy.

[Tanzio]

I have absolutely zero against Travellers / Gypsies as a group. In fact, I admire their independent lifestyle in some ways. The generalization above was out of line, but so was the response to it.

I have dealt with families that have been trapped in the cycle of violence for a good chunk of my life. A kid raised in that environment has little chance. It is clear that BJS was very likely raised in that environment.

It is not unlike saving dogs, cats and other animals from cruel owners; the kids should be saved, imo. If the father wants to be a punk thug that is fine but the kids should not be subjected to the brainwashing and psychopathic control of the punk thug.

I have witnessed and perpetrated the resulting carnage. I have no patience for punk thugs who propagate violence. Sometimes violence is necessary to stop the cycle or simply eliminate the source.

If you want to be a drunken thug, so be it. Leave your family and innocent people out of it.

If we are going to coexist in the garden, someone must be willing to tend it.

[coneye]

Its not a gypsy /traveler thing , Its a BJS THING , he put his kid up to it , he laughed when the kid done it , and he pushed the kid into position to do it .. nothing to do with gypsys just Billy Joe being a idiot ,, Warren should get a grip of him , read him the riot act, after all he's not the biggest ticket seller around is he , Monroe laughed it off , but personaly i would of loved to have seen him come back with a swift clip around the ear on the kid. Really do hope Monroe does a number on him .
I bet its a nightmare for the teachers of his little brats .

[TheGingerBomber]

My prejudice must be built in because my initial reaction was "typical gypsy kid", but it is just an awfully brainwashed culture at times. However Billy's boy has previous for being a twat and I reckon he gets it from his dad, who is still a child at heart.

It's not like Willie Monroe has came over effing and slandering BJS and his culture, he's literally being disrespected for no reason. Thing is though, there'd be no point in Billy Joe turning around now and saying sorry because we already know this is how he raises his children, he is what he is. He sticks to his guns.

[dirk2686]

I know there is good and bad in every culture but I think the typical reaction to travellers moving into town is usually a bad one. I used to live near a fairground that they would pitch up at every year and there was always loads of bother; stuff going missing, break ins, aggro in pubs. Where I live now there are various sites they move around but it always seems to be the same story; pull up onto playing fields/football pitches (rendering them useless for a few weeks), and when they finally leave the place is covered in rubbish and human waste.

Feel sorry for the kids as it looks a rubbish way to live. Education seems a passing thought and they seem to stop going when they're still kids themselves. No wonder such a high percentage end up inside.

[samwbr]

His kid should have been nowhere near the stage. But it wasn't a surprise to see it happen when you look at the father, he's a serial idiot and a gobshite.

[wesshaw1985]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PyUx-laWYN4

[BigDoofus]

I hope the WBO strips him if he wins after the fight and the board suspends him.

I think you're going a little over the top, although I agree Saunders 7 year old son shouldn't be in next months rankings.

[BigDoofus]

Eurgh his kid is a little scumrat. People don't hate gypsies (or 'travellers' as is the PC Term) for no reason, it's cos they are mostly scum.

What a terrible hateful post.

[Datsue]

Its not a gypsy /traveler thing , Its a BJS THING , he put his kid up to it , he laughed when the kid done it , and he pushed the kid into position to do it .. nothing to do with gypsys just Billy Joe being a idiot ,, Warren should get a grip of him , read him the riot act, after all he's not the biggest ticket seller around is he , Monroe laughed it off , but personaly i would of loved to have seen him come back with a swift clip around the ear on the kid. Really do hope Monroe does a number on him .
I bet its a nightmare for the teachers of his little brats .

[BigDoofus]

The weigh-in is on the BBC main site. A 7 year old kid was naughty, nobody was hurt but some of you have really got your knickers in a twist.
On the same day ISIS bombed a London train. Perhaps some of you need to get a grip.

[chrisnew86]

I live in Cheltenham and once a year a load of travellers come and pitch up in a park where I walk my dogs. Seems to be the same week every year or near enough the same week...

If you say morning to them they ignore you, they complete fornicating trash the park, In the kids play area they hang there washing all over it, there is a nursery right next to this park and it leaves the kids toys outside in a little sort of play ground area, well all of those toys go west , either stolen or smashed up.

Then as a final gift from them, they empty all there sewage tanks all over the grass so you have piss and shite all over the place.

Honestly , if they want to live the way they do then I 100% respect that and as an outsider looking in, living in a caravan and moving around is appealing to me but why be so backward and anti social about everything?. They act like animals and do there best not to fit in but then when thats pointed out they take offence

Anyway BJS is a tool , I hope he gets iced

[Oiky]

Don't confuse Irish travellers with Romany either

The Irish are mainly the ones pulling up and down these days. Some leave a mess, others leave the bit of ground spotless.

English do shift, but mainly for fairs and Christian conventions these days, most English have bought and live on bits of ground or yards and are settled .

Another funny argument is how can you be a traveller if you don't actually travel . That's a stupid thing to say because being a gypsy is in the blood . If one of you suddenly sold your houses and start pulling about in a trailer it wouldlnt make you a gypsy man, just someone who moves about in a trailer . Same as being settled doesn't make a travelling man any less a traveller