Golovkin v Alvarez tactics

[jamesmcdonnell]

118-110. Should never be allowed to judge again, perhaps maybe curling. Ridiculous.

[crusader]

She'll be back in major fights if she wants to....the 'top' officials clearly have cozy relationships with the right people. Very, very little accountability for judges...

[Kilburn]

I don't know how the regular betting folk manage to put the disappointment behind them when cards like that turn up and they lose out. It would put me off for life.

[TheLeprechaun]

I don't know how the regular betting folk manage to put the disappointment behind them when cards like that turn up and they lose out. It would put me off for life.

You haven't even seen the fight

[Kilburn]

Lol okay I'll reserve judgment on the 118-110 until I've seen the fight (I was referring to that one specifically).

[TheGman]

Call me crazy but I scored that for Canelo. He landed the more eye catching shots throughout the fight and I thought GGG was coming forward and hitting fresh air for most of the night.

Crazy

Off the top of my head I gave Canelo the first 3 and 9,10,11. I thought he won those rounds clearly. So for me thats 6 rounds for Canelo. Can you argue with any of these rounds and say they are clear GGG rounds? I'm just going from memory here but there were a couple of other rounds that I thought Canelo had a good shout of winning.Those ones just stand out because they were two blocks of three rounds.

Wow what fight were u watching? Are you de la hoya's son or brother? Round one was defo GGG and if you go off what canelo said he said he wanted to see for the first couple of rounds what GGG had so probably canelo would argue with u. Round 9 and 10 defo GGG

[samwbr]

De la Hoya knew the fix was in at the final bell. fornicating disgusting decision, Alvarez was a beaten man.
I wouldn't blame Golovkin for walking away as champion from the whole corrupt mess.

[boxingknockout]

PS why did Alvarez enter second? He's not the champ?

[youngrell]

Byrd's card was so bad it's covered up how bad the other judges cards were too.

Alvarez has the rematch clause, so why not take the loss on the chin and try again anyway? A draw helps nobody

[Nightmare Roy]

PS why did Alvarez enter second? He's not the champ?

Because he's a diva, it was part of the deal same with his name being first in the fight posters, joke the champ should walk out second

[crusader]

The sport is corrupt, disgrace, outside agencies need to get involved in this.

The card was a disgrace and I thought GGG won. But...

If it was corrupt, why not hand in a 115-114 card for Canelo (which is believable if generous) rather than the ludicrous standout score which has been submitted?

If you get a goalkeeper to go easy you expect a few attempts for crosses that go amiss and a slow reaction to a deflected shot; not throwing the ball into the net half a dozen times.

I guess the closer you score it the riskier things become. What if you work out a 3 point cushion and then the losing fighter scores some knockdowns? There are certain occurances that pretty much lock even corrupt judges into scoring a particular way. You cant go back and change other rounds, so going really wide reduces the odds that you run into that problem.

That said, it was so bad of a card that GGG couldve scored 5 knockdowns in the last round and still have been behind.

[ShadrachSimmo]

The sport is corrupt, disgrace, outside agencies need to get involved in this.

The card was a disgrace and I thought GGG won. But...

If it was corrupt, why not hand in a 115-114 card for Canelo (which is believable if generous) rather than the ludicrous standout score which has been submitted?

If you get a goalkeeper to go easy you expect a few attempts for crosses that go amiss and a slow reaction to a deflected shot; not throwing the ball into the net half a dozen times.

I guess the closer you score it the riskier things become. What if you work out a 3 point cushion and then the losing fighter scores some knockdowns? There are certain occurances that pretty much lock even corrupt judges into scoring a particular way. You cant go back and change other rounds, so going really wide reduces the odds that you run into that problem.

That said, it was so bad of a card that GGG couldve scored 5 knockdowns in the last round and still have been behind.

Certainly puts things in perspective.

[doctorboxing]

Watched it this morning with no sound and I don't think GGG was as clear a winner as some have suggested. Canelo made him miss a lot and came forward well in spurts. GGG was aggressor throughout though so got the nod for me in some close rounds.

I had it by 2 rounds to GGG but was the type of fight that although the feeling at the end was a GGG win, a draw or maybe even a very narrow Canelo win could be justified on round by round scoring.

118-110 though

[crusader]

A draw or win for Canelo is giving him too much credit for those spots. It's not like he was landing amazing shots that were clearly hurting GGG, and he would commit to a few moments of offense after spending half the round moving and jerking his upperbody arround while against the ropes, but throwing next to nothing. Canelo made Golovkin miss regularly, but he was no Mayweather defensive master, and GGG's greater volume meant he was the one landing most of the punches. I think Danny Jacobs did a better job of consistently mixing offense and defense....

Canelo's requirements to win rounds were always going to be of a lower level than GGG's.

[Datsue]

A draw or win for Canelo is giving him too much credit for those spots. It's not like he was landing amazing shots that were clearly hurting GGG, and he would commit to a few moments of offense after spending half the round moving and jerking his upperbody arround while against the ropes, but throwing next to nothing. Canelo made Golovkin miss regularly, but he was no Mayweather defensive master, and GGG's greater volume meant he was the one landing most of the punches. I think Danny Jacobs did a better job of consistently mixing offense and defense....

Canelo's requirements to win rounds were always going to be of a lower level than GGG's.

Good post.

Golovkin won 8 rounds. The scoring was abysmal.

[samwbr]

Watched it this morning with no sound and I don't think GGG was as clear a winner as some have suggested. Canelo made him miss a lot and came forward well in spurts. GGG was aggressor throughout though so got the nod for me in some close rounds.

I had it by 2 rounds to GGG but was the type of fight that although the feeling at the end was a GGG win, a draw or maybe even a very narrow Canelo win could be justified on round by round scoring.

118-110 though

You cannot make case for anything other than a Golovkin win with any degree of credibility.

[Monte Fisto]

Alvarez's plan should be to do anything and everything to go the distance. If he goes the distance there's a solid chance he gets the decision whether he deserves it or not.

Completely agree. A draw could be a great bet here.

Little bit sick this am. I stuck 50 quid in my betting account to put on a draw yesterday am. Then decided to stick a small fiver accumulator on 3 prem games. Lost and then thought right I'll stick 45 quid on spurs to win to get my money back. In my head this was a no lose situation as I support Chelsea. Turns out id rather have spurs win and win a grand for myself at the same time, who knew ... sickening.

[TheGman]

The sport is corrupt, disgrace, outside agencies need to get involved in this.

The card was a disgrace and I thought GGG won. But...

If it was corrupt, why not hand in a 115-114 card for Canelo (which is believable if generous) rather than the ludicrous standout score which has been submitted?

If you get a goalkeeper to go easy you expect a few attempts for crosses that go amiss and a slow reaction to a deflected shot; not throwing the ball into the net half a dozen times.

I guess the closer you score it the riskier things become. What if you work out a 3 point cushion and then the losing fighter scores some knockdowns? There are certain occurances that pretty much lock even corrupt judges into scoring a particular way. You cant go back and change other rounds, so going really wide reduces the odds that you run into that problem.

That said, it was so bad of a card that GGG couldve scored 5 knockdowns in the last round and still have been behind.

Just score the fight as you see it,if one fighter walks you down blocking your shots and tapping away at u in the process its a 10-9 to him dont judge a fight safe incase there is a knockdown just judge it fair and square

[MightyWarrior]

Golovkin won that, no question, Canelo was knackered in the middle rounds backing away and triple G doing all the scoring.. that Idiot judge needs to never work again, absolute disgrace, she f**ked up the fight of the year

[dalcumly]

Just up this morning . I ,as always, refuse point blank to pay for any PPV show. Have seen the scorecards on fightnews.com.

So, honestly, who won this fight? Was it a robbery? Take all the emotion out of it, can someone give a clear opinion.
Some posters have complained about the 118-110 scorecard, but that aside, was it a close fight or not?

[samwbr]

Just up this morning . I ,as always, refuse point blank to pay for any PPV show. Have seen the scorecards on fightnews.com.

So, honestly, who won this fight? Was it a robbery? Take all the emotion out of it, can someone give a clear opinion.
Some posters have complained about the 118-110 scorecard, but that aside, was it a close fight or not?

It was a clear win for Golovkin. At least 4 rounds up.

[tobyh5]

Just up this morning . I ,as always, refuse point blank to pay for any PPV show. Have seen the scorecards on fightnews.com.

So, honestly, who won this fight? Was it a robbery? Take all the emotion out of it, can someone give a clear opinion.
Some posters have complained about the 118-110 scorecard, but that aside, was it a close fight or not?

It was a clear win for Golovkin. At least 4 rounds up.

GGG won but not "at least 4 rounds up". That makes it 8-4 but your wording of "at least" suggest you are giving him more - 9 or 10 rounds, which is equally nuts to the 118-110 card

[dalcumly]

What I do when examining scorecards is this - I count up the rounds which are scored the same by all 3 judges ie 10-9,10-9,and 10-9 and the MAJORITY rounds ie 9-10,,10-9,10-9.
Using this method Golovkin wins by 7 rounds to five.

[samwbr]

Just up this morning . I ,as always, refuse point blank to pay for any PPV show. Have seen the scorecards on fightnews.com.

So, honestly, who won this fight? Was it a robbery? Take all the emotion out of it, can someone give a clear opinion.
Some posters have complained about the 118-110 scorecard, but that aside, was it a close fight or not?

It was a clear win for Golovkin. At least 4 rounds up.

GGG won but not "at least 4 rounds up". That makes it 8-4 but your wording of "at least" suggest you are giving him more - 9 or 10 rounds, which is equally nuts to the 118-110 card

I scored it 9-3, possibly a little generous but 8-4 is maybe a fairer reflection. It was a clear win. The eyes of the sporting world on what should have been a great event and it was fucked up by the judges. It's hard not to conclude it was fixed.

[tobyh5]

It was a clear win for Golovkin. At least 4 rounds up.

GGG won but not "at least 4 rounds up". That makes it 8-4 but your wording of "at least" suggest you are giving him more - 9 or 10 rounds, which is equally nuts to the 118-110 card

I scored it 9-3, possibly a little generous but 8-4 is maybe a fairer reflection. It was a clear win. The eyes of the sporting world on what should have been a great event and it was fucked up by the judges. It's hard not to conclude it was fixed.

That card is a shame as Canelo should get a little credit for standing firm, landing eye catching shots, nullifying GGG for stretches and being competitive and exchanging with him at times. He lost, but he performed well, this card just leaves everyone ripping him