Round-by-Round: Golovkin vs. Canelo 1 - September 16, 2017

[Ossyrules]

So in other words, you can't prove a damn thing, so instead you try to send me on a wild goose chase searching for something that clearly does not exist.

FFS man! If you're going to talk the talk, you've got to walk the walk, so stop acting like a little bîtch and backup your claim!

We're not having a discussion about the unknowable, such as religion, you should be able to fûckîng prove your bûllshît accusation, if you're convinced about the accuracy of your theory!

Either man up or man down. What's it gonna be kid?

You post dislike about pie in the sky match ups.

Check your post history

Don't give it the biggun calling me bitch... its not your style

Thank you for conceding the error of your ways.

I've conceded nothing. You've regularly voice dislike about pie in the sky matchups and will go on to discuss match ups that could realistically be made.

[Enlightened-One]

You post dislike about pie in the sky match ups.

Check your post history

Don't give it the biggun calling me bitch... its not your style

Thank you for conceding the error of your ways.

I've conceded nothing. You've regularly voice dislike about pie in the sky matchups and will go on to discuss match ups that could realistically be made.

Your accusation didn't occur in any version of reality and furthermore, you cannot prove it either.

[Ossyrules]

Thank you for conceding the error of your ways.

I've conceded nothing. You've regularly voice dislike about pie in the sky matchups and will go on to discuss match ups that could realistically be made.

Your accusation didn't occur in any version of reality and furthermore, you cannot prove it either.

Look up your post history

[Enlightened-One]

I've conceded nothing. You've regularly voice dislike about pie in the sky matchups and will go on to discuss match ups that could realistically be made.

Your accusation didn't occur in any version of reality and furthermore, you cannot prove it either.

Look up your post history

You made the fictitious accusation. The onus is on you to substantiate it.

I’m not moronic enough to attempt to find something that has never existed.

It’s abundantly clear that you talked the talk, but you can’t walk the walk!

[Badhusker]

I have yet to see the fight, so I will refrain from bitching about the draw. One thing most of us got wrong though was Canelo winning if it went 12, at least we have that. A draw may be almost as bad if he did truly deserve it, but at least he didn't get a "L" that is impossible to erase.

The one thing most of us got right though is the 118-110 score.....one judge in Canelo's pocket like always.

[Ossyrules]

Your accusation didn't occur in any version of reality and furthermore, you cannot prove it either.

Look up your post history

You made the fictitious accusation. The onus is on you to substantiate it.

I’m not moronic enough to attempt to find something that has never existed.

It’s abundantly clear that you talked the talk, but you can’t walk the walk!

No need to get arsey cos you take a load of abuse normally from people. Simply put you do t like to discuss fights that'll never happen, and then contradictsted yourself with ward.

I've bumped a thread where you do this

[Lennox]

I scored it 115-113 to GGG

I gave rds 2, 5, 10, 11, 12 to Canelo (4 of those rds were fairly close)

only rd 3 which I gave to GGG was close

I though GGG won rd 1 which all the judges favoured Canelo.

Overall a close fight, just the 110-118 was bizarre.

[Enlightened-One]

It’s not my intention to be contrary and pedantic, but it’s simply my personal preference to discuss actual real-world fights that are contractually signed-up and will be televised… I’m referring to contests that we’ll be able to actually watch on TV rather than fantasize about.

For sure, threads discussing fantasy fight are highly-popular on this forum (as there are loads of them), so my opinion is clearly in the minority. I hope that others can provide you with the sort of feedback you’re looking for.

That being said, I feel that boxing is one of those very few sports where fans rarely get to see “the best facing the best”, which is the main reason for my stance... since most of these discussions are about as realistic as the sort of events that take place in the Harry Potter series of novels.

FAO EO

You made the following claim:

My thoughts... you always say you hate talking about fantasy match ups that never happen so why start now!

I responded accordingly:

I don't "hate" threads about fantasy fights, but I do feel that some of them should not be posted to BoxRec's current scene forum section if at least one of the combatants have been retired or dead for several years.

The post you have quoted above does not support your claim… and in fact, it actually proves that I am consistent with my opinions.

Like I said before, you made a derogatory claim that you cannot possibly substantiate, since it’s fictional in nature.

Simply put: I have never said that I “hate” threads covering fantasy fights.

[jezzamundo]

I scored it 115-113 to GGG

I gave rds 2, 5, 10, 11, 12 to Canelo (4 of those rds were fairly close)

only rd 3 which I gave to GGG was close

I though GGG won rd 1 which all the judges favoured Canelo.

Overall a close fight, just the 110-118 was bizarre.

We disagree a fair bit on some rounds. I had it 116-112 to GGG and thought the rounds Canelo won were the 2nd, 3rd, 8th and 12th. I thought GGG won the 5th clearly and edged the 10th and 11th.

[Ossyrules]

It’s not my intention to be contrary and pedantic, but it’s simply my personal preference to discuss actual real-world fights that are contractually signed-up and will be televised… I’m referring to contests that we’ll be able to actually watch on TV rather than fantasize about.

For sure, threads discussing fantasy fight are highly-popular on this forum (as there are loads of them), so my opinion is clearly in the minority. I hope that others can provide you with the sort of feedback you’re looking for.

That being said, I feel that boxing is one of those very few sports where fans rarely get to see “the best facing the best”, which is the main reason for my stance... since most of these discussions are about as realistic as the sort of events that take place in the Harry Potter series of novels.

FAO EO

You made the following claim:

My thoughts... you always say you hate talking about fantasy match ups that never happen so why start now!

I responded accordingly:

I don't "hate" threads about fantasy fights, but I do feel that some of them should not be posted to BoxRec's current scene forum section if at least one of the combatants have been retired or dead for several years.

The post you have quoted above does not support your claim… and in fact, it actually proves that I am consistent with my opinions.

Like I said before, you made a derogatory claim that you cannot possibly substantiate, since it’s fictional in nature.

Simply put: I have never said that I “hate” threads covering fantasy fights.

I was wrong to say hate...

You have no inclination to speak about fights that won't happen however. Unless you do. That's basically it.

That's the win EO.

Geezers like you will never admit when they've been turned over though

[Enlightened-One]

Look up your post history

You made the fictitious accusation. The onus is on you to substantiate it.

I’m not moronic enough to attempt to find something that has never existed.

It’s abundantly clear that you talked the talk, but you can’t walk the walk!

No need to get arsey cos you take a load of abuse normally from people. Simply put you do t like to discuss fights that'll never happen, and then contradictsted yourself with ward.

I've bumped a thread where you do this

I don’t mean to be “arsey”, but the harsh environment of this forum compels my conduct to be aggressive in nature, since people often make false claims about me. When they’re subsequently proven to be incorrect, instead of apologising, they go on the offensive using juvenile name-calling.

When I make mistakes, I apologise. I can prove this to be the case. When others make mistakes, they barrage me with insults and then create threads requesting that I receive a permanent ban.

[Ossyrules]

You made the fictitious accusation. The onus is on you to substantiate it.

I’m not moronic enough to attempt to find something that has never existed.

It’s abundantly clear that you talked the talk, but you can’t walk the walk!

No need to get arsey cos you take a load of abuse normally from people. Simply put you do t like to discuss fights that'll never happen, and then contradictsted yourself with ward.

I've bumped a thread where you do this

I don’t mean to be “arsey”, but the harsh environment of this forum compels my conduct to be aggressive in nature, since people often make false claims about me. When they’re subsequently proven to be incorrect, instead of apologising, they go on the offensive using juvenile name-calling.

When I make mistakes, I apologise. I can prove this to be the case. When others make mistakes, they barrage me with insults and then create threads requesting that I receive a permanent ban.

Here's another quote from you

[/quote]
None of these bouts have been scheduled and are extremely unlikely to happen in the short-term. So they shouldn’t be considered as “future fights”, since it’s highly-probable that most won’t take place… ever!

In terms of my personal favourite “future fight” that is likely to actually happen in the real-world, it has to be Canelo-Golovkin.[/quote]

Do say when ward golovkin or even more ludricous Canelo ward are likely to be made

[Enlightened-One]

Here's another quote from you

None of these bouts have been scheduled and are extremely unlikely to happen in the short-term. So they shouldn’t be considered as “future fights”, since it’s highly-probable that most won’t take place… ever!

In terms of my personal favourite “future fight” that is likely to actually happen in the real-world, it has to be Canelo-Golovkin.

Do say when ward golovkin or even more ludricous Canelo ward are likely to be made

I am only willing to argue with you about the following false claim that you made about me:

My thoughts... you always say you hate talking about fantasy match ups that never happen so why start now!

By your own admission, you were unable to substantiate it.

I have no appetite to engage in a separate debate about a completely different subject matter.

Admit it, you lost. You’re not entitled to another “shot at the title”, simply because you’re frustrated about being proven wrong.

[Ossyrules]

Here's another quote from you

None of these bouts have been scheduled and are extremely unlikely to happen in the short-term. So they shouldn’t be considered as “future fights”, since it’s highly-probable that most won’t take place… ever!

In terms of my personal favourite “future fight” that is likely to actually happen in the real-world, it has to be Canelo-Golovkin.

Do say when ward golovkin or even more ludricous Canelo ward are likely to be made

I am only willing to argue with you about the following false claim that you made about me:

My thoughts... you always say you hate talking about fantasy match ups that never happen so why start now!

By your own admission, you were unable to substantiate it.

I have no appetite to engage in a separate debate about a completely different subject matter.

Admit it, you lost. You’re not entitled to another “shot at the title”, simply because you’re frustrated about being proven wrong.[/quote]

I was wrong to say hate. The rest you've been done

Geezers like you will never admit though.

Just don't have a pop at fantasy fights then make reference in threads yourself. No problems

[boxing_rocks]

Ossy, is this the first time you stepped into the EO sh!t? Let it go. You are helping him to kill yet another thread.

Nobody cares what he says anymore.

[boxing_rocks]

Amir Khan saying it was close GGG by 1 round, he's been hit far too many times.

All the Brits were predicting Canelo win, and they are now saying that GGG won.

Wtf you on about? Golovkin was favourite over here you lemon

See another thread. Almost all British commentators were predicting Canelo win.

[Covfefe]

All the Brits were predicting Canelo win, and they are now saying that GGG won.

Wtf you on about? Golovkin was favourite over here you lemon

See another thread. Almost all British commentators were predicting Canelo win.

So several pundits means all brits.

[BAD INTENTIONS]

1. Knew Canelo was going to run.
He ran all night.

2. GGG doesn't have great defense,
especially when he doesn't feel a threat coming back.
GGG's stalking always left himself open to big counters.
Canelo is good enough to land those punches,
but they were in the first 30 seconds of every round, and nothing else.

3. GGG blew the KO opportunity by not going to the body until the 5th.

4. Canelo is not a total bum, but his boxing skills are worst than Jacobs.
He was able to land the same counters and avoid the right the same way,
because of GGG's clear flaws, that get masked by his amazing power.

5. Canelo proves again he is better than the Daniel Geale's of the world,
but he isn't BETTER than the Jacobs and Lara and the Trouts of the boxing world.
Nothing wrong with that.

[Oiky]

1. Knew Canelo was going to run.
He ran all night.

2. GGG doesn't have great defense,
especially when he doesn't feel a threat coming back.
GGG's stalking always left himself open to big counters.
Canelo is good enough to land those punches,
but they were in the first 30 seconds of every round, and nothing else.

3. GGG blew the KO opportunity by not going to the body until the 5th.

4. Canelo is not a total bum, but his boxing skills are worst than Jacobs.
He was able to land the same counters and avoid the right the same way,
because of GGG's clear flaws, that get masked by his amazing power.

5. Canelo proves again he is better than the Daniel Geale's of the world,
but he isn't BETTER than the Jacobs and Lara and the Trouts of the boxing world.
Nothing wrong with that.

good post

[Tanzio]

Watched it again. 3G won the fight. In order to get to a draw you would literally have to give every remotely close round. The only way to make it close was to heavily weigh everything that GingerHead did and discount what 3G did.

GingrHead landed crisp shots but nowhere near as many as 3G. His shots also had less effect, by a longshot. The argument by the talking heads that GingerHead came on late is true, except for the fact that 3G answered and surpassed him in two of those final three rounds.

Furthermore, the first three rounds were not a clean sweep by any means. They were very close, the clearest going to GingerHead in the 2nd, but 3G held the advantage in round 1, imo, and 3 was very close.

There were only five absolutely clear rounds and 3G won four of those. Four of the seven competitive rounds were pretty clearly 3G's.

Second viewing I had it 116-112:

3G (close)
GingerHead
GingerHead (very close)
3G
3G (fairly close)
3G (fairly close)
3G
3G
3G (close)
3G (clearest round of the fight)
GingerHead (close)
GingerHead (extremely close)

Last night I had it 117-111 3G realtime.

[Ossyrules]

All the Brits were predicting Canelo win, and they are now saying that GGG won.

Wtf you on about? Golovkin was favourite over here you lemon

See another thread. Almost all British commentators were predicting Canelo win.

Yeah I made that thread! Just so you know, a handful of sky pundits don't equal UK!

[Ossyrules]

Ossy, is this the first time you stepped into the EO sh!t? Let it go. You are helping him to kill yet another thread.

Nobody cares what he says anymore.

Yeah you're right what's the point. I caught him out for hypocritical but he's too pig headed

[boxing_rocks]

Wtf you on about? Golovkin was favourite over here you lemon

See another thread. Almost all British commentators were predicting Canelo win.

Yeah I made that thread! Just so you know, a handful of sky pundits don't equal UK!

I replied to a quote about Khan, and I meant pundits, not the whole population.

[SaadOffTheDeck]

Bad decision, decent fight. Canelo surprisingly got the better of the exchanges, but I guess he was running for a reason. Yet another boxing ppv not worth the money.

[candyslim]

Watched it again. 3G won the fight. In order to get to a draw you would literally have to give every remotely close round. The only way to make it close was to heavily weigh everything that GingerHead did and discount what 3G did.

GingrHead landed crisp shots but nowhere near as many as 3G. His shots also had less effect, by a longshot. The argument by the talking heads that GingerHead came on late is true, except for the fact that 3G answered and surpassed him in two of those final three rounds.

Furthermore, the first three rounds were not a clean sweep by any means. They were very close, the clearest going to GingerHead in the 2nd, but 3G held the advantage in round 1, imo, and 3 was very close.

There were only five absolutely clear rounds and 3G won four of those. Four of the seven competitive rounds were pretty clearly 3G's.

Second viewing I had it 116-112:

3G (close)
GingerHead
GingerHead (very close)
3G
3G (fairly close)
3G (fairly close)
3G
3G
3G (close)
3G (clearest round of the fight)
GingerHead (close)
GingerHead (extremely close)

Last night I had it 117-111 3G realtime.

That scoring is very similar to mine. I only watched it once. I scored round 3 to Golovkin and round 2 even.