Golovkin v Alvarez tactics

[TheGman]

Off the top of my head I gave Canelo the first 3 and 9,10,11. I thought he won those rounds clearly. So for me thats 6 rounds for Canelo. Can you argue with any of these rounds and say they are clear GGG rounds? I'm just going from memory here but there were a couple of other rounds that I thought Canelo had a good shout of winning.Those ones just stand out because they were two blocks of three rounds.

If you think canelo won round 9 you must be smoking somethin cause im rewatchin it now and you are delusional. Were you drunk when you wrote this leprechaun?

Yes I gave the 9th to Canelo. Where were the clean shots from Golovkin? Canelo landed clear eye catching shots and made Golovkin miss most of his attacks. Are you giving Golovkin credit for taking clean shots without appearing hurt?

So tell me what do you look for in a round to declare a winner of the round,do u believe a guy who lands flush 3 or 4 times beats the guy who presses and scuffs shots throughout the round landing 20+ glancing blows?

[PredatorHayds]

I scored it 114-114.

A lot of close rounds. Some rounds where Golovkin applied pressure I thought he missed a lot and Canelo landed some flashy shots.

It was close. I was maybe generous to Canelo in a couple though so I'm fine with anything between 114-114 and 116-112 GGG.

[Emmseegee]

I think a lot of people score fights based on how they expect a fighter to fight. Golovkin maintained his usual style, marching forward cutting off the ring although he probably missed a lot more than he is used to. This makes people think hes winning rounds and is comfortable because he is fighting his own fight. Canelo on the other hand had to show some different skills that we dont always associate with him, his defence was pretty good and he spent a lot of time back peddaling and being reasonably accurate with his work. He was being forced to adapt more to what was in front of him and done a good job of doing so.

For me GGG won by a couple of rounds but I do wonder what peoples opinions would be if Mayweather was in Canelos shoes and fought an identical fight. A lot of people would have scored it different and classed it as a defensive masterclass mainly because its the kind of style they associate with him. Canelo would have to stand toe to toe and trade for 12 rounds to win over the general public. The dodgy card has diverted attention away from how close and good a fight we witnessed. Both guys deserve massive credit for taking the fight and how they fought, hopefully we see it again soon.

[TheLeprechaun]

I think a lot of people score fights based on how they expect a fighter to fight. Golovkin maintained his usual style, marching forward cutting off the ring although he probably missed a lot more than he is used to. This makes people think hes winning rounds and is comfortable because he is fighting his own fight. Canelo on the other hand had to show some different skills that we dont always associate with him, his defence was pretty good and he spent a lot of time back peddaling and being reasonably accurate with his work. He was being forced to adapt more to what was in front of him and done a good job of doing so.

For me GGG won by a couple of rounds but I do wonder what peoples opinions would be if Mayweather was in Canelos shoes and fought an identical fight. A lot of people would have scored it different and classed it as a defensive masterclass mainly because its the kind of style they associate with him. Canelo would have to stand toe to toe and trade for 12 rounds to win over the general public. The dodgy card has diverted attention away from how close and good a fight we witnessed. Both guys deserve massive credit for taking the fight and how they fought, hopefully we see it again soon.

Golovkin was just plodding forward with a jab and abysmal defense. Exceptional chin though. In the slow mos you could actually see him looking right back at Canelo after Canelo landed clean flush shots. If Canelo had the stamina of an actual 27 year old instead of having the stamina of David Price then he would have been able to stay a step ahead like he was in the opening 3 rounds. He landed on Golovkin when he let his hands go and was able to jab with him too when he wanted to. I also thought Canelo was never really trapped on the ropes, he was using them to rest as he always has done in fights. He found it easy to evade 3G footworkwise. At no point was Canelo ever just surviving in there. But I think 3Gs last two fights have exposed him a bit. In both fights I saw a plodding jabber who misses a lot and takes clean shots like nothing happened. No real adjustments, just come forward, walk through anything your opponent lands and try to blast opponent out.

His chin and power make him a tough fight for any 160 pounder in history though. I don't even think a right hand on the point of the chin from Julian Jackson would make him take a backward step. The majority of fighters who beat him would have to do it off the backfoot and I can see some doing it but the only one I think would actually have a chance in a toe to toe affair would be Hagler, who would have no problem banging with him and had just as good a chin if not better.

[Emmseegee]

I could see Canelo possibly getting a deserved points decision over him in a rematch. I think Canelo needs to be smarter with when he times his bursts and also attempt to finish rounds stronger. However, I appreciate that the adjustments I have mentioned aren't easy to make when you have a wrecking machine like Golovkin charging at you for 12 rounds but I still have confidence that Canelo can get a victory against him.

[Stuarty]

I think a lot of people score fights based on how they expect a fighter to fight. Golovkin maintained his usual style, marching forward cutting off the ring although he probably missed a lot more than he is used to. This makes people think hes winning rounds and is comfortable because he is fighting his own fight. Canelo on the other hand had to show some different skills that we dont always associate with him, his defence was pretty good and he spent a lot of time back peddaling and being reasonably accurate with his work. He was being forced to adapt more to what was in front of him and done a good job of doing so.

For me GGG won by a couple of rounds but I do wonder what peoples opinions would be if Mayweather was in Canelos shoes and fought an identical fight. A lot of people would have scored it different and classed it as a defensive masterclass mainly because its the kind of style they associate with him. Canelo would have to stand toe to toe and trade for 12 rounds to win over the general public. The dodgy card has diverted attention away from how close and good a fight we witnessed. Both guys deserve massive credit for taking the fight and how they fought, hopefully we see it again soon.

Golovkin was just plodding forward with a jab and abysmal defense. Exceptional chin though. In the slow mos you could actually see him looking right back at Canelo after Canelo landed clean flush shots. If Canelo had the stamina of an actual 27 year old instead of having the stamina of David Price then he would have been able to stay a step ahead like he was in the opening 3 rounds. He landed on Golovkin when he let his hands go and was able to jab with him too when he wanted to. I also thought Canelo was never really trapped on the ropes, he was using them to rest as he always has done in fights. He found it easy to evade 3G footworkwise. At no point was Canelo ever just surviving in there. But I think 3Gs last two fights have exposed him a bit. In both fights I saw a plodding jabber who misses a lot and takes clean shots like nothing happened. No real adjustments, just come forward, walk through anything your opponent lands and try to blast opponent out.

His chin and power make him a tough fight for any 160 pounder in history though. I don't even think a right hand on the point of the chin from Julian Jackson would make him take a backward step. The majority of fighters who beat him would have to do it off the backfoot and I can see some doing it but the only one I think would actually have a chance in a toe to toe affair would be Hagler, who would have no problem banging with him and had just as good a chin if not better.

Abysmal defence? Mate fukk off! Did you see his footwork in the early rounds. Walking back out the way of shots and taking the sting away whilst catching a lot of digs also! I honesty wonder what some folk watch sometimes man!!!

[chrisnew86]

I have so much respect for GGG after the weekend.

What an absolutely fantastic fighter.

I'm honoured to have seen him in the flesh at MSG

[ILikeBeer]

I'm honoured to have seen him in the flesh at MSG

You saw him naked?

[chrisnew86]

I'm honoured to have seen him in the flesh at MSG

You saw him naked?

Yeah he bummed me

[forcefraser]

I'm honoured to have seen him in the flesh at MSG

You saw him naked?

Yeah he bummed me

A GGG backrutting?

[chrisnew86]

You saw him naked?

Yeah he bummed me

A GGG backrutting?

Just a bit , just a bit

[jamesmcdonnell]

I'm honoured to have seen him in the flesh at MSG

You saw him naked?

Yeah he bummed me

Did he take the centre of the ring?

[chrisnew86]

You saw him naked?

Yeah he bummed me

Did he take the centre of the ring?

He's true Mexican style