Saw this seemingly brilliant idea on twitter. What do you think?
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Not a new idea. I like it. I think that it would lead to a lot more draws and hence 13th rounds.boxing_rocks wrote:Saw this seemingly brilliant idea on twitter. What do you think?
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SaadOffTheDeck
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12 rounds is the most you can box. They experimented with this ages ago.
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but what happens if the round is close... it will end up worse controversy sometimes imo
The .5 system is often the solution IMO... Like last Saturday, GGG won lots of CLEAR rounds with Canelo surviving in there... the full Pt would've given him the nod in the end.
The .5 system is often the solution IMO... Like last Saturday, GGG won lots of CLEAR rounds with Canelo surviving in there... the full Pt would've given him the nod in the end.
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SaadOffTheDeck wrote:12 rounds is the most you can box. They experimented with this ages ago.
15 rounds changed the whole strategy of the fight and studies showed most bad injuries happened in the last 3.
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Maybe make it 11 rounds then. I don't like it, but I also don't like fights ending with even numbers of rounds.
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Great point, Beast.TheBeast wrote:but what happens if the round is close... it will end up worse controversy sometimes imo
The .5 system is often the solution IMO... Like last Saturday, GGG won lots of CLEAR rounds with Canelo surviving in there... the full Pt would've given him the nod in the end.
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15 is definitely not the direction to go unless we want the sport banned.TheBeast wrote:SaadOffTheDeck wrote:12 rounds is the most you can box. They experimented with this ages ago.
15 rounds changed the whole strategy of the fight and studies showed most bad injuries happened in the last 3.
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SaadOffTheDeck
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I just meant it's mandated by the sport. I loved 15 round fights.TheBeast wrote:SaadOffTheDeck wrote:12 rounds is the most you can box. They experimented with this ages ago.
15 rounds changed the whole strategy of the fight and studies showed most bad injuries happened in the last 3.
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Far superior entertainment.
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Dumb idea for a 12 round fight really. If no one can prove superior over 12 rounds then another shouldn't matter save for the betting crowd. Also, the cool down period while the scores are being tallied would really fornicate things up. It's done in Kickboxing, far fewer rounds, less for the brainy mathematician to compile ringside and often a 2nd extended round is needed. Nope, don't like it for boxing.
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We Brits have always failed to understand the American view that draws are bad. I know this is particularly bad timing for me to say so just after the recent scoring debacle in LV, but draws can often be a good thing. Using football (soccer) as an example, there are times FA Cup for example, when you get the mighty team of multi-millionaires playing against a team of guys who are, let's just say, nothing special.
If it comes down to it the weak team are very unlikely to beat them, but to hold them to a draw is a more realistic ambition. If they can do that on their own ground they will earn a re-match at the home of mega-club which can mean an enormous cash-injection through share of gate receipts.
If they play the first game away from home a draw can mean playing the re-match on home soil where the mega-stars may be uncomfortable playing in a more claustrophobic stadium on a more primitive kind of pitch giving the little team the chance of an upset.
It also creates more interesting league tables with points totals which show odd numbers as well as even, giving more possible permutations of how the table is likely to be affected by forthcoming matches.
In short I see nothing wrong with a share of the spoils provided that (unlike Canelo) bother fighters deserve that draw.
If it comes down to it the weak team are very unlikely to beat them, but to hold them to a draw is a more realistic ambition. If they can do that on their own ground they will earn a re-match at the home of mega-club which can mean an enormous cash-injection through share of gate receipts.
If they play the first game away from home a draw can mean playing the re-match on home soil where the mega-stars may be uncomfortable playing in a more claustrophobic stadium on a more primitive kind of pitch giving the little team the chance of an upset.
It also creates more interesting league tables with points totals which show odd numbers as well as even, giving more possible permutations of how the table is likely to be affected by forthcoming matches.
In short I see nothing wrong with a share of the spoils provided that (unlike Canelo) bother fighters deserve that draw.
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Final point: When both fighters have put heart and soul into ten rounds of a war where it's very difficult to pick a winner, why not recognize that fact instead of forcing one of them to go away with nothing but an 'L' ?
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In American football, draws are rare. One reason is because there is overtime. Soccer has not as much scoring as American football, so there are more ties. I don't have a problem with ties in boxing as long as they are legitimate. GGG vs. Canelo was not legitimate. GGG made it closer than he needed to by letting Canelo outwork him for four of the rounds, but it was still a win for GGG in my mind. Most people and media had GGG winning.