P4P 1 now that Ward is retired

[IKSRTFO]

GGG?
Canelo?
Crawford?

[SaadOffTheDeck]

Crawford for me, whether ward is active or not.

[littlepug]

GGG?
Canelo?
Crawford?

Canelo ? anyway 1.GGG 2.Crawford 3.Loma for me

[ValMar]

Crawford, definitely, it is very difficult to become the undisputed champion, nowadays............

[BAD INTENTIONS]

I would promote #2 ... GGG.

Crawford's best wins are Gamboa and Postol.
Based on his resume, I can't rank him above guys who have been tested at the top level.
Promoting Crawford too fast is why Broner finished #6 P4P one year.

If some of you keep doing P4P list this way,
half the list will be guys with impressive results and weak resumes.
You are rewarding guys who haven't fought anyone.
But guys like Thurman, who looked vulnerable at times against top competition gets deducted rankings.

I don't know how Crawford will look against top fighters.
If you wanna see Horn and Manny lose, put them in with Garcia, Thurman or Spence.
If Crawford is fighting the lower level guys at 147 ,
then I'm not ranking him above guys fighting better competition.

Thurman would look just as, if not more impressive, against Crawford's resume.
If you can't understand that then you shouldn't be playing around with P4P lists.

[BAD INTENTIONS]

Crawford, definitely, it is very difficult to become the undisputed champion, nowadays............

Because of politics and money, not skill.

Example:
160 isn't unified because BJS wouldn't fight GGG.
175 isn't unified because of Kathy Duva.
135 isn't unified because Garcia doesn't want to.

Every excuse is being given to promote Crawford.
Please stop, it's hard for a racist like me to constantly talk have to talk bad about Crawford.
But this recent HBO P4P takeover seems contrary to all the norms that existed before.
They are explicitly doing it as promotion for money,
so we get Lomachenko and Crawford ranked higher than they should currently be.

[boxing_rocks]

Loma, Crawford and GGG are top 3. Spence is 4.

[SaadOffTheDeck]

Crawford, definitely, it is very difficult to become the undisputed champion, nowadays............

Because of politics and money, not skill.

Example:
160 isn't unified because BJS wouldn't fight GGG.
175 isn't unified because of Kathy Duva.
135 isn't unified because Garcia doesn't want to.

Every excuse is being given to promote Crawford.
Please stop, it's hard for a racist like me to constantly talk have to talk bad about Crawford.
But this recent HBO P4P takeover seems contrary to all the norms that existed before.
They are explicitly doing it as promotion for money,
so we get Lomachenko and Crawford ranked higher than they should currently be.

Lmao, this is your I have black friends post. Crawford and Loma don't fight on HBO anymore sweetheart. You hate ESPN now.

[ValMar]

Crawford, definitely, it is very difficult to become the undisputed champion, nowadays............

Because of politics and money, not skill.

Example:
160 isn't unified because BJS wouldn't fight GGG.
175 isn't unified because of Kathy Duva.
135 isn't unified because Garcia doesn't want to.

Every excuse is being given to promote Crawford.
Please stop, it's hard for a racist like me to constantly talk have to talk bad about Crawford.
But this recent HBO P4P takeover seems contrary to all the norms that existed before.
They are explicitly doing it as promotion for money,
so we get Lomachenko and Crawford ranked higher than they should currently be.

Have you called yourself "a racist" ? Are you serious ? For me, it is the same as you admitted that you were the serial killer. You have not any fukcing reason to dislike/hate me because of my skin colour.

[SaadOffTheDeck]

He is a racist, deflecting with lame humorous can't change that. On a boxing note, just because he thought broner was a good doesn't mean everyone did. I knew he couldn't beat maidana. Crawford is several levels above that guy.

[DannyMCR]

Without a doubt Terence Crawford

[ValMar]

He is a racist, deflecting with lame humorous can't change that. On a boxing note, just because he thought broner was a good doesn't mean everyone did. I knew he couldn't beat maidana. Crawford is several levels above that guy.

Was this my bad English, or he really consider himself a racist ?
If this was my (my bad English) fault I apologize.

"Proud to be racist" - is this acceptable in the USA ?

[gilgamesh]

He is a racist, deflecting with lame humorous can't change that. On a boxing note, just because he thought broner was a good doesn't mean everyone did. I knew he couldn't beat maidana. Crawford is several levels above that guy.

Was this my bad English, or he really consider himself a racist ?
If this was my (my bad English) fault I apologize.

"Proud to be racist" - is this acceptable in the USA ?

Depends on who you're talking to. Just like anywhere.

[BitPlayer]

It's up for grabs really.

[ValMar]

He is a racist, deflecting with lame humorous can't change that. On a boxing note, just because he thought broner was a good doesn't mean everyone did. I knew he couldn't beat maidana. Crawford is several levels above that guy.

Was this my bad English, or he really consider himself a racist ?
If this was my (my bad English) fault I apologize.

"Proud to be racist" - is this acceptable in the USA ?

Depends on who you're talking to. Just like anywhere.

[tiny_acres]

Crawford, definitely, it is very difficult to become the undisputed champion, nowadays............

Because of politics and money, not skill.

Example:
160 isn't unified because BJS wouldn't fight GGG.
175 isn't unified because of Kathy Duva.
135 isn't unified because Garcia doesn't want to.

Every excuse is being given to promote Crawford.
Please stop, it's hard for a racist like me to constantly talk have to talk bad about Crawford.
.

Really???? I hope that was some type of mistake

[Tony1244]

Crawford
GGG
Lomachenko
Spence
Canelo


Something like that.

[tiny_acres]

Crawford #1

[SaadOffTheDeck]

He is a racist, deflecting with lame humorous can't change that. On a boxing note, just because he thought broner was a good doesn't mean everyone did. I knew he couldn't beat maidana. Crawford is several levels above that guy.

Was this my bad English, or he really consider himself a racist ?
If this was my (my bad English) fault I apologize.

"Proud to be racist" - is this acceptable in the USA ?

No, he's deflecting it. He thinks he's what the world should be.

[Blodhemn]

Didn't he lose to Kovalev? How was he ever number 1?

[gilgamesh]

Was this my bad English, or he really consider himself a racist ?
If this was my (my bad English) fault I apologize.

"Proud to be racist" - is this acceptable in the USA ?

Depends on who you're talking to. Just like anywhere.

If you're asking if it's ok to be openly racist in the streets of America. The answer is no....at least for white people. You can be openly racist if you're anything else. Just kinda a stupid double standard we have going on here right now. Maybe one day we'll outgrow it.

[Ossyrules]

Golovkin or Crawford

[BAD INTENTIONS]

He is a racist, deflecting with lame humorous can't change that. On a boxing note, just because he thought broner was a good doesn't mean everyone did. I knew he couldn't beat maidana. Crawford is several levels above that guy.

Was this my bad English, or he really consider himself a racist ?
If this was my (my bad English) fault I apologize.

"Proud to be racist" - is this acceptable in the USA ?

ValMar. It was a joke.

I'm only considered racist in the USA, GB (outside cities), and maybe Israel.
I'm very comfortable with the people in those countries calling me racist.

I've constantly defended and argued for the "whitest" people (Northern Europe).
Saad and the other idiots never mentioned this.

I don't believe in race. Saad and the other idiots don't understand this.

I don't have a race, as defined in the US.
I have comfortable employment and a Masters Degree.

The United States of America has a huge race problem.
Anyone, regardless of race, who attacks the US race bias is demonized.
I'm sorry, but the US is clearly biased in favor of "white" people.
Israel need to stop the poor treatment of Palestinians.
There seems to be a good portion of GB that is identical to the idiots in the US.

I hope to visit most Northern European countries soon.
I'm sure the average person will be more intelligent than the average American, GB or Israeli person I encounter. Many of these people have began to religiously identify themselves with modern descriptors of who they are. Since 9/11 Americans have rapidly descended into deeper fear-based sectionalism. Many young Israeli people don't know the difference between being a Jew and Zionism.

I live in a country where war-monorging is accepted and taught to our children!
Saad and he other idiots defend torture and all of the US illegal actions.

As someone from the outside looking in,
I've laid out my argument, choose who you want to believe.

[Tarkus]

GGG is still top despite his last two weak performances.

Crawford, Loma and Thurman hard on his heels.

[dagilechia]

its Crawford for now, followed by Lomachenko, Joshua, Golovkin, Usyk