Andre Ward, the brown Sven Ottke

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Andre Ward, the brown Sven Ottke

Post by Jip »

:lol: :OhYes:

Both on fake official record undefeated, both very boring to watch and both got hometown or gift descision.

I am very happy to never see that arrogant mo:_;(!÷@:.(er ever in the ring again. Guys like him, wlad and floyd made me dislike boxing everytime i watched those boring pos
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Jip wrote::lol: :OhYes:

Both on fake official record undefeated, both very boring to watch and both got hometown or gift descision.

I am very happy to never see that arrogant mo:_;(!÷@:.(er ever in the ring again. Guys like him, wlad and floyd made me dislike boxing everytime i watched those boring pos

Ward beat much better fighters than Sven Ottke. As a matter of fact, who did Ottke beat?

People now act like Kovalev was all Ward had.

Ward beat:
Miranda
Green
Kessler
Froch
Bika
Abraham
Froch
Dawson
Barrera
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Can't believe I'm defending Otkke but although he was boring and got gifts from refs and judges I never remember him being a dirty fighter.
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Re: Andre Ward, the brown Sven Ottke

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Very unfair comparison

Slightly frustrating career though. Too much time out the ring or against opponents who weren't good enough imo

If you fight negatively you're not a draw, unless you go the route Mayweather did and just become controversial stroke outspoken during build up

Great fighter, well short compared to say Roy, think we could have seen more from ward.

Not a fighter that boxing will miss too badly
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Ottke would likely lost to Kessler or Abraham
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Horrific analogy, then again nobody expects much more from you. Ward was a warrior and thrill seeker compared to your beloved rigondeaux.
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Sven Ottke WISHES he was Andre Ward. He wasn't in that league.
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gilgamesh wrote:Sven Ottke WISHES he was Andre Ward. He wasn't in that league.
:lol: :OhYes: Good one.

Ottke was the epitome of a paper champion. The only way Ottke ever gets into the International Boxing Hall of Fame is if he pays the admission fee as a visitor, like the rest of us!

http://boxrec.com/en/boxer/7203 :zzz:
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Jip wrote:Guys like him, wlad and floyd made me dislike boxing everytime i watched those boring pos
You accuse these guys of being “boring”, but I think the truth here is that to those who appreciate execution of the sweet science, they’re far from it. And at the end of the day, the real reason people find their ability to be “boring” is because it usually means they have “absolutely dominated” their opposition.

There’s a quote that I’ve read from a boxing scribe, which reads…

“Absolute domination is absolute domination, and when a man can separate himself from a competitor by being that good, it simply makes for an uneventful evening that just feels bad!”


Could that be the real reason behind your dislike of guys like Andre Ward, Floyd Mayweather Jr. and Wladimir Klitschko? Do you not feel that their opponents are partly responsible for your feelings of tedium, due to their inability to make fights competitive or their failure to somehow find a way to beat these guys? :confused:
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More like the young Bernard Hopkins.
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Candidate for worst post of all time.
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Enlightened-One wrote:
Jip wrote:Guys like him, wlad and floyd made me dislike boxing everytime i watched those boring pos
You accuse these guys of being “boring”, but I think the truth here is that to those who appreciate execution of the sweet science, they’re far from it. And at the end of the day, the real reason people find their ability to be “boring” is because it usually means they have “absolutely dominated” their opposition.

There’s a quote that I’ve read from a boxing scribe, which reads…

“Absolute domination is absolute domination, and when a man can separate himself from a competitor by being that good, it simply makes for an uneventful evening that just feels bad!”


Could that be the real reason behind your dislike of guys like Andre Ward, Floyd Mayweather Jr. and Wladimir Klitschko? Do you not feel that their opponents are partly responsible for your feelings of tedium, due to their inability to make fights competitive or their failure to somehow find a way to beat these guys? :confused:

If floyd was such a dominator, why didnt he try to ko his opponents?

Wlad was never a terrific boxer, he was just lucky that was in a bad era of heavyweights and most of his opponents were either c level or blown up cruiserweights. Ones he fought an opponent of same height weight and skill level he got tkod.

Ward was a dirty pos. Inside the ring with his illegal tactics, outside the ring with his arrogance.

Sweet science and boxing in an entertaining way can be combined. De la hoya, ali, leonard and many other were able to do it, those boxer i watch. Ward, wlad and floyd were not able, therefore i dont or rarly watched them.
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diddy wrote:Candidate for worst post of all time.
Agreed...Jip is BoxRec's version of Sven Ottke. A legend in his own mind.
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Best Coast wrote:
diddy wrote:Candidate for worst post of all time.
Agreed...Jip is BoxRec's version of Sven Ottke. A legend in his own mind.
You a boxrec toy. Start a thread about ward having a white father, when this is old news. Anybody knew that 3 years ago you noob
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Jip wrote:
Best Coast wrote:
diddy wrote:Candidate for worst post of all time.
Agreed...Jip is BoxRec's version of Sven Ottke. A legend in his own mind.
You a boxrec toy. Start a thread about ward having a white father, when this is old news. Anybody knew that 3 years ago you noob
"Boxrec toy?"

"Noob?" :lol:

What country are you from?
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diddy wrote:Candidate for worst post of all time.
Post and poster. This guy could make a donkey choke with the empty headed bullshit he repeats ad nauseam. I stopped by today to do my annual " say something nice" resolution and boom this human pile of garbage strikes again.
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Jip wrote::lol: :OhYes:

Both on fake official record undefeated, both very boring to watch and both got hometown or gift descision.

I am very happy to never see that arrogant mo:_;(!÷@:.(er ever in the ring again. Guys like him, wlad and floyd made me dislike boxing everytime i watched those boring pos
ward, wlad and floyd are very
different from sven ottke, and
you know it.
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Re: Andre Ward, the brown Sven Ottke

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This is why I loathe coming on the current scene. Hopefully this fat slob eats his keyboard one day so he can't post anymore.
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